Oklahoma State hires new Men's Coach

Thoughts?


Dustin Taylor. Previously asst coach at UVA, coach for Team USA.

2005-10: ATP and Junior Development Coach
2010-14: United States Tennis Association: National Coach, Men's and Collegiate Tennis
2014-17: Virginia – Associate Head Coach
2017-19: United States Tennis Association – Lead National Coach, Team USA
2019-21: Har-Tru – Business Development Manager
2019-21: ATP and Junior Development Coach
2021-present: Oklahoma State head coach
 
Interesting hire, only 3 years of college coaching experience basically starting off at the #1 team in the country.........reminds me a lot of George at Bama rolling into the USC teams, not saying Dustin won't do a good job but pretty hard to know with the lack of experience
 

andfor

Legend
He should do well. He's known as a good player coach and has good college coaching experience. Players like him. I like his 3 years of business experience too in addition to his tennis resume. We'll soon see.
 

andfor

Legend
Are they literally at zero players? By the looks of it, I think they are.
Haven't looked but with some many transfers it has to be close to that number. OSU and Stillwater is a cool place, to me anyways. They have a excellent tennis facility and I think the school is great. Buzz off to all the university ranking snobs.

Something tells me Dustin will be able to gather up a decent team. Might take till Spring 22 semester, but I'm betting on the old ball coach.
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
Haven't looked but with some many transfers it has to be close to that number. OSU and Stillwater is a cool place, to me anyways. They have a excellent tennis facility and I think the school is great. Buzz off to all the university ranking snobs.

Something tells me Dustin will be able to gather up a decent team. Might take till Spring 22 semester, but I'm betting on the old ball coach.
This is the same school that has Mike Van Gundy as the head coach. Don't need to say anything further.
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
They all entered the transfer portal before he took the job. He knew what he was getting into.
At least 4 of the players have already transferred to other schools per Parsa Bombs tweets. The new coach could try to convince others who have not found new schools yet to stay. Does anyone know how many total players are still on the Men's D1 transfer portal? At least 60 male players (Parsa bombs again but there may be a lag time) have transferred to D1 universities so far for 20/21 with half of those graduate transfers. The new coach may end up with a lot of freshmen....There are JUCO kids looking for 4 years and some of them could be good....guys who had the tennis skills but maybe had to improve English or grades to play D1... Out of the 60 transfers so far, there is one from JUCO Cash Hanzlik, two from D2 and one from D3.
 

Liam Grennon

Professional
At least 4 of the players have already transferred to other schools per Parsa Bombs tweets. The new coach could try to convince others who have not found new schools yet to stay. Does anyone know how many total players are still on the Men's D1 transfer portal? At least 60 male players (Parsa bombs again but there may be a lag time) have transferred to D1 universities so far for 20/21 with half of those graduate transfers. The new coach may end up with a lot of freshmen....There are JUCO kids looking for 4 years and some of them could be good....guys who had the tennis skills but maybe had to improve English or grades to play D1... Out of the 60 transfers so far, there is one from JUCO Cash Hanzlik, two from D2 and one from D3.
OK State just picked up a great transfer from UT in Leighton Allen.
 

NoChance

Rookie
If you are a student in post-secondary education, at any level, and you need to improve your English skills, then of course, your grades will suffer.

The question is, why is such a player here in the first place? For every coach who runs a respectable program, there is one who would do most anything to get a quality player onboard, even if the coach can't communicate very well with said player.
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
At least 4 of the players have already transferred to other schools per Parsa Bombs tweets. The new coach could try to convince others who have not found new schools yet to stay. Does anyone know how many total players are still on the Men's D1 transfer portal? At least 60 male players (Parsa bombs again but there may be a lag time) have transferred to D1 universities so far for 20/21 with half of those graduate transfers. The new coach may end up with a lot of freshmen....There are JUCO kids looking for 4 years and some of them could be good....guys who had the tennis skills but maybe had to improve English or grades to play D1... Out of the 60 transfers so far, there is one from JUCO Cash Hanzlik, two from D2 and one from D3.
several of the transfers had already completed their Undergrad and thanks to the NCAA with their COVID response has allowed them an extra year to compete, which explains the #1/2 players leaving, the rest not as sure, but the NCAA COVID response is going to be very detrimental to current juniors wanting to play College Tennis, due to limited spots. Look at Baylor and all their Grad Transfers vs Junior recruiting.
 

andfor

Legend
several of the transfers had already completed their Undergrad and thanks to the NCAA with their COVID response has allowed them an extra year to compete, which explains the #1/2 players leaving, the rest not as sure, but the NCAA COVID response is going to be very detrimental to current juniors wanting to play College Tennis, due to limited spots. Look at Baylor and all their Grad Transfers vs Junior recruiting.
True. I know a good player that is having to play next year as a walk on or without athletic aid, then will go on scholarship in Fall of 2022. According to this players parents, they know of a few other kids in the same situation.
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
Ah the great 12.11 UTR player, interesting term for someone of that level, if he plays 6 in the Big 12 he might go winless
He was a UTR 13 before the pandemic-blue chip jr. Hard to judge UTRs now. Used to be top juniors could sometimes get WCs to Futures but for 20/21 freshmen, there were no Futures last year to prepare them for the college game. There is one Ivy graduate transfer whose UTR dropped from 13 to projected <10UTR-he played one match this year and lost bad to a D3 player. Yet he transferred to a midlevel P5 program-one in the #30-#50 range. I know of another D1 player who played some at two P5 schools and his UTR dropped 1.4 UTR in 6 months. Now the freshmen who were good enough to make the lineup for 20/21 wont have those drops, but some programs were so loaded that top 10 juniors weren't playing even at line 6 so their current UTR is not an accurate estimate. Hopefully those guys will find tourneys to play this summer to bump up their UTR. Unfortunately it is very tough this year for players to get in even Future Qualis, and the UTR PTT tour requires 12,5+ unless a player earns a WC. Some of those former low 13s, now low 12s wont move back up until they prove themselves at fall ITA events. No fall ITA for most collegians in '20 hurt players UTR and ITA rankings.
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
True. I know a good player that is having to play next year as a walk on or without athletic aid, then will go on scholarship in Fall of 2022. According to this players parents, they know of a few other kids in the same situation.
The US guys who would be 4-8 in the lineup on a P5 team never got much athletic $ prior to the pandemic. Of course with the graduate transfers, a high level junior who might have been as high as 3-4 may have been pushed down to 5-6 and receives less scholly $. Walk on is not a bad idea if player is attending an in-state public university with reasonable tuition and a chance for merit $. I do feel sorry for those US players without a public D1 university in their state. The one positive aspect of this situation is that more top players are choosing D3, and they will get a great education while playing high level tennis.
 
Ah the great 12.11 UTR player, interesting term for someone of that level, if he plays 6 in the Big 12 he might go winless
Leighton is better than his numbers indicate; that said, he will take some licks if he plays in the lineup. He couldn't make the Texas lineup this past year so not sure how well he will do at Ok State
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
In my years of following, most players UTR's fall .5-1 pt first year in college, could be getting used to college, but also a big part is No-Ad scoring levels the playing field as well. 50/50 crap shoot on the deuce pts, versus having chance to grind out a long deuce/ad game.
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
In my years of following, most players UTR's fall .5-1 pt first year in college, could be getting used to college, but also a big part is No-Ad scoring levels the playing field as well. 50/50 crap shoot on the deuce pts, versus having chance to grind out a long deuce/ad game.
Agreed. UTR rewards players who win more games than expected vs an opponent. With no ads, many collegiate games are close, and a college player is concentrating on winning and not on number of games won. The new WTN (world tennis number) will focus on sets won which is a more important number than games won. Who cares if a player drops the first set 1-6, if he comes back and wins the match but that player gets dinged in UTR. A college coach would much rather have a player who wins 1-6, 7-6, 7-6 than the guy who won more games 6-1 6-7 6-7 but looks better to the UTR algorithm.
 

Liam Grennon

Professional
OK State coach knew developing players rebuilding a P5 program that lost almost everyone + young talented players (like Allen is, despite his now lack luster UTR) = good for tennis! I'll keep rooting for them even though I've heard good things about the former interim coach.
 

ashicks

New User
Tyler Zink trasferred from Georgia to OSU for Fall 2021. Zink played 2 singles and 1 doubles for Georgia last year.
 
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