Old Head Racquets

slowfox

Professional
Why are they so good? I recently playtested 3 different models from the 80s, and thought they were all awesome. I almost think that any Head stick from that era would be great.

Just gushing here. Forgive me and my sickening joy over classic sticks.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Why are they so good? I recently playtested 3 different models from the 80s, and thought they were all awesome. I almost think that any Head stick from that era would be great.

Just gushing here. Forgive me and my sickening joy over classic sticks.
Which models did you playtest?
 

Tennis Man

Hall of Fame
Why are they so good? I recently playtested 3 different models from the 80s, and thought they were all awesome. I almost think that any Head stick from that era would be great.

Just gushing here. Forgive me and my sickening joy over classic sticks.
The answer is pretty simple: they used real graphite and lots of it. In addition to high QC and pride in the work and end result.
 

slowfox

Professional
Which models did you playtest?
Graphite Edge (matte, individual grommets)
Graphite Edge 2
Composite Master

The two Edges feel different, so I counted them separately.

I envy those who have an extensive classic Head racquet collection. :)
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Graphite Edge (matte, individual grommets)
Graphite Edge 2
Composite Master

The two Edges feel different, so I counted them separately.

I envy those who have an extensive classic Head racquet collection. :)
Those are great racquets. The Graphite Edge 2 will have a different feel because of the different string pattern.
 
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logrock

Rookie
Great timing for this thread! This weekend I pulled out my old Prestige Classic Tour Midplus which I haven't played for a number of years. Been using LM Rad Midplus & 107's for a while. Took a set or 2 to get used to the weight again but once I did, wow. What a solid responsive feel. I was actually able to slow down my swing and get easy power with control and my arm doesn't hurt today after 8 sets. Really thinking of using this as my main stick this season. It must have been the layup Head used back then because the feel is so much more solid & controlled then what is on the market now.
 

Tamiya

Semi-Pro
got some that've been badly court rashed until worn through
their layup is very thick & hoop looks foam filled

solid compared to newer frames with only 3-4 layers thin and hollow
 

logrock

Rookie
got some that've been badly court rashed until worn through
their layup is very thick & hoop looks foam filled

solid compared to newer frames with only 3-4 layers thin and hollow
Right on the money. The new models feel thin & hollow where as the classics are solid & comfortable. So glad I have 2 of them still in good condition. Tennis is so much more fun hitting with them again, even if I lose more often. (lol)
 
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slowfox

Professional
The auction site is becoming a dangerous habit for me. Constantly searching for more classic Head racquets now... bad, so bad... :)
 

joe sch

Legend
Edgewood. Wood with graphite strip. Great feel.
The Edgewood is a great hit and blast of the past ...
It provides the feel of wood, the larger midsize head size is more close to the modern rackets and an open throat design for more stability like the modern rackets. With these late wood transitions including the graphite laminations, it is one of the most powerful wood rackets ever produced. If you really want to go retro with a popular Head Classic, try the Vilas strung with natural gut which is a standard head woody still using an open throat.
 

jimbo333

Hall of Fame
The Edgewood is a great hit and blast of the past ...
It provides the feel of wood, the larger midsize head size is more close to the modern rackets and an open throat design for more stability like the modern rackets. With these late wood transitions including the graphite laminations, it is one of the most powerful wood rackets ever produced. If you really want to go retro with a popular Head Classic, try the Vilas strung with natural gut which is a standard head woody still using an open throat.
How about the Head Vector (Wood/Graphite), it is exactly the same as the Head GLC (Wood/Graphite), different names for different parts of the world.
This was my actual racquet that I used in the early 80's, it is a superb racquet. Size is in between the Edgewood and the Vilas, which is perfect I think, and in my opinion the best wood racket ever made!

 

retrowagen

Hall of Fame
Back in the early 80's, "Vector" connotated a Head head shape/size that was roughly 10% larger than Standard. In addition to that nice wood/graphite composite, there was an aluminum model (with the novel string lock grommet system, so one wouldn't have to stop playing when a string broke!), and the Graphite Vector, an excellent performance racquet which was overshadowed by the Graphite Edge. (The Edge series was 20% larger than Standard; Director series, 30% IIRC.)
 

coachrick

Hall of Fame
Back in the early 80's, "Vector" connotated a Head head shape/size that was roughly 10% larger than Standard. In addition to that nice wood/graphite composite, there was an aluminum model (with the novel string lock grommet system, so one wouldn't have to stop playing when a string broke!), and the Graphite Vector, an excellent performance racquet which was overshadowed by the Graphite Edge. (The Edge series was 20% larger than Standard; Director series, 30% IIRC.)
When Head introduced the aluminum Edge, I begged them for a couple of years to make the same size in the 7005 alloy like the Pro. They waited a year or so too long for the Vector, IMO. I played the string-loc Vector for a while...with about 12 different strings in it :)
 

jimbo333

Hall of Fame
Back in the early 80's, "Vector" connotated a Head head shape/size that was roughly 10% larger than Standard. In addition to that nice wood/graphite composite, there was an aluminum model (with the novel string lock grommet system, so one wouldn't have to stop playing when a string broke!), and the Graphite Vector, an excellent performance racquet which was overshadowed by the Graphite Edge. (The Edge series was 20% larger than Standard; Director series, 30% IIRC.)
Found some photos of my Vector S-L and Graphite Vector. That string-lock system looks cool but very time consuming!





 
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joe sch

Legend
How about the Head Vector (Wood/Graphite), it is exactly the same as the Head GLC (Wood/Graphite), different names for different parts of the world.
This was my actual racquet that I used in the early 80's, it is a superb racquet. Size is in between the Edgewood and the Vilas, which is perfect I think, and in my opinion the best wood racket ever made!

I never had the Vector model and I agree it looks like it maybe the GWROAT :) I really like the standard head wood rackets and felt the head vilas was a bit too small.
 

jimbo333

Hall of Fame
I never had the Vector model and I agree it looks like it maybe the GWROAT :) I really like the standard head wood rackets and felt the head vilas was a bit too small.
Honestly these are amazing to play with. The Vector and GLC models are exactly the same, and would recommend anyone try one if they get the chance. I'm gong to give my Vector a go this week:)
 

max

Legend
Rackets were made in countries that paid workers decent wages back then.
Not to be (heaven forbid!) controversial, but it does catch you by surprise when you see the higher quality of racquets back then. It's true; they're very nice.

I used for a good number of years the Head Edge, my first graphite. Really nice frame. It's in the basement, moldering, with almost no intact grommets.
 

HRB

Hall of Fame
Great timing for this thread! This weekend I pulled out my old Prestige Classic Tour Midplus which I haven't played for a number of years. Been using LM Rad Midplus & 107's for a while. Took a set or 2 to get used to the weight again but once I did, wow. What a solid responsive feel. I was actually able to slow down my swing and get easy power with control and my arm doesn't hurt today after 8 sets. Really thinking of using this as my main stick this season. It must have been the layup Head used back then because the feel is so much more solid & controlled then what is on the market now.
Let a 27 year old 4.0 woman use my Head Graphite Pro the other day while I tried out her Vika Stick (Juice BLX 100). The look on her face when her normally decently paced loopy shots became flatter accurate bombs was priceless. She didn't want to give it back, but I sure as heck wanted to get it back!

I'm looking on the "bay" for her, needless to say. Her stick cost $189...I'll end up finding a GP for under $40...superior and cheap...weird!
 

HRB

Hall of Fame
BTW...does anyone know where I can get replacement grommets for these old head sticks...is the rumor that LM Prestige sets will fit correct?
 

Sander001

Hall of Fame
The answer is pretty simple: they used real graphite and lots of it. In addition to high QC and pride in the work and end result.
And they used Twaran or something which I think is a Kevlar like and today they try to substitute it with Integra, biofiber, basalt or some other cheap alternative so they can make more money.
 

floydcouncil

Professional
Let a 27 year old 4.0 woman use my Head Graphite Pro the other day while I tried out her Vika Stick (Juice BLX 100). The look on her face when her normally decently paced loopy shots became flatter accurate bombs was priceless. She didn't want to give it back, but I sure as heck wanted to get it back!

I'm looking on the "bay" for her, needless to say. Her stick cost $189...I'll end up finding a GP for under $40...superior and cheap...weird!
It's called a VERY short honeymoon period... soon to be followed by a quick divorce.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Let a 27 year old 4.0 woman use my Head Graphite Pro the other day while I tried out her Vika Stick (Juice BLX 100). The look on her face when her normally decently paced loopy shots became flatter accurate bombs was priceless. She didn't want to give it back, but I sure as heck wanted to get it back!

I'm looking on the "bay" for her, needless to say. Her stick cost $189...I'll end up finding a GP for under $40...superior and cheap...weird!
I bet she would absolutely love the Graphite Master. That is what 4.0 a woman would have used back in the day.
 

Bhagi Katbamna

Hall of Fame
It's great for nostalgia. But, I remember playing against a good player who normally uses a Pure Drive. He played with a Head graphite Edge for the first five games which he lost. At 0-5 he switched back to his regular racket and proceeded to beat me 7-5 and 6-0(which is what his level actually is). I loved playing with the Edge too but I play better with modern rackets.
 

floydcouncil

Professional
It's great for nostalgia. But, I remember playing against a good player who normally uses a Pure Drive. He played with a Head graphite Edge for the first five games which he lost. At 0-5 he switched back to his regular racket and proceeded to beat me 7-5 and 6-0(which is what his level actually is). I loved playing with the Edge too but I play better with modern rackets.
Spot on........BK....
 

HRB

Hall of Fame
It's called a VERY short honeymoon period... soon to be followed by a quick divorce.
Ha! I love your analogy...except in this weird scenario the hot young thing is abandoned for the old cougar, only to be returned to! I agree, and explained to the woman that after 1 hard set she'd find the weight and smaller head unforgiving.

The reality is I like the older sticks, but I do understand their limitations in the modern game...but for me the only time I'm facing the "modern game" is the few times I get to play with the college kids that come to the courts or tourneys. In those cases you bet your arse I grab my KFactor 6.1 95 and try to hang in there!

On the other hand I love the feel and hit well with the older heads and compete just fine at 4.0 with the 35-45 year olds I hit with, and just this week me and the trusted Graphite Pro put away some Speeds, an Instinct, and APD!

I use the right tool for the job, and unless I'm hitting with those young kids with a lot of pace it is just more fun (what it's all about..correct?) using the Graphite Pro. Plus the look on the opponents face when they've just lost 2 and 1 to a guy using a 25 year old racquet is priceless!
 
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