Oldest Living Americans

Legend of Borg

G.O.A.T.
You think longevity is the only thing men are at a natural disadvantage?

Ho boy, there's a laundry list of disadvantages in all walks of life just from being male....
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
yes, in the ground. Buried my grandmother yesterday at age 101 and 7/12
Dr Dean Edell once said that he would not want to live till 100. It was surprising to hear him say this. But he did not explain the reasons why... Maybe it has something to do with losing all your old friends.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Dr Dean Edell once said that he would not want to live till 100. It was surprising to hear him say this. But he did not explain the reasons why... Maybe it has something to do with losing all your old friends.
losing friends and a good deal more. My grandmother complained throughout her 90s "why am I still alive?"
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Narrative here seems to be bad news as one ages! What happen to the "blank" is the new "blank-20" up beat slogans?
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Narrative here seems to be bad news as one ages! What happen to the "blank" is the new "blank-20" up beat slogans?
Evolutionary changes occur over hundreds or thousands or millions of years; they do not occur over the course of a few decades.

These "40 is the new 30, <blank> is the new <blank>..." slogans are delusional propaganda.

Things do not change that quickly.

Remember that Reagan in 1980 at 68 was considered to old to run. There was a huge outcry even though he was extremely fit.
 
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SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
Sequoiadendron giganteum member, President, at ~3200 yo is believed to be one of the oldest living Americans. President resides in Giant Forest in Sequoia National Park near Visalia, California.

President might not actually be genetically male but "he" does appear to be quite phallic.
 

Soul

Semi-Pro
I once read that height plays a roll in life expectancy. It said that men and women of the same height have similar life spans. hard to say if that is true or not, but I have noticed in my family shorter guys tend to live longer. that hasn't always been the case though. When i worked on my family tree, I noticed that a town high up in the Oregon mountains, it is listed as the highest city in elevation in Oregon, were family resided tended to have family members that lived longer lives for what ever reason. I'd say they lived 7 to 10 years longer than other family members that moved away and lived in San Fransisco, another city many family members resided.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
I once read that height plays a roll in life expectancy. It said that men and women of the same height have similar life spans. hard to say if that is true or not, but I have noticed in my family shorter guys tend to live longer. that hasn't always been the case though. When i worked on my family tree, I noticed that a town high up in the Oregon mountains, it is listed as the highest city in elevation in Oregon, were family resided tended to have family members that lived longer lives for what ever reason. I'd say they lived 7 to 10 years longer than other family members that moved away and lived in San Fransisco, another city many family members resided.
Less effort on the heart to pump (shorter distance)?
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Less effort on the heart to pump (shorter distance)?
Female heart is actually doing more work, beating on average 8 to 10 more times a minute than the average male heart. That alone would seem to be a problem for women, as a comparative biologist once calculated that the hearts of most larger (than, say, a dog) species can beat about two to three billion times in a lifetime, and you can somewhat reliably calculate potential longevity by calculating how long it takes for a particular species to reach that many beats (pulses vary from as little as 8 or 10 beats per minute for some large whales to 1200 beats per minute for some hummingbirds).
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
comparative biologist once calculated that the hearts of most larger (than, say, a dog) species can beat about two to three billion times in a lifetime
We are allotted only two billion heartbeats but should not shun exercise to conserve heartbeats.

If our resting HR is 80 bpm and we exercise one hour a day at 120 bpm to bring resting HR down to 70 bpm, we still come out ahead.
 

Soul

Semi-Pro
Less effort on the heart to pump (shorter distance)?
Don't know. I read the article many years ago and don't recall their theories, if any where mentioned. Ever since though I've noticed when tall basketball players pass away, which tends to be younger than the average it seems.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Don't know. I read the article many years ago and don't recall their theories, if any where mentioned. Ever since though I've noticed when tall basketball players pass away, which tends to be younger than the average it seems.
Will Chamberlain passed away relatively young but height was not a factor.
Likely 20,000 other reasons.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Woman had less stress as a traditional home maker. Now those woman that are in their 50s will probably have equal or less life span as their equal age men.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Female heart is actually doing more work, beating on average 8 to 10 more times a minute than the average male heart. That alone would seem to be a problem for women, as a comparative biologist once calculated that the hearts of most larger (than, say, a dog) species can beat about two to three billion times in a lifetime, and you can somewhat reliably calculate potential longevity by calculating how long it takes for a particular species to reach that many beats (pulses vary from as little as 8 or 10 beats per minute for some large whales to 1200 beats per minute for some hummingbirds).
Women's heart weighs less and probably pumps less blood volume per beat. How do you just look at the rate of heartbeat and assume it is the only factor in the work it does?
 

Legend of Borg

G.O.A.T.
Women's heart weighs less and probably pumps less blood volume per beat. How do you just look at the rate of heartbeat and assume it is the only factor in the work it does?
Heartbeat is one of many other factors in longevity. It doesn't just come down to one single thing, but that's a pretty obvious point.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Dr Dean Edell once said that he would not want to live till 100. It was surprising to hear him say this. But he did not explain the reasons why... Maybe it has something to do with losing all your old friends.
If you've met a lot of 90 year olds, you'd see why. Can't partake in most of their hobbies and interests. Friends and siblings are all dead. Quality of life is far superior to quantity of life.
 

tennishabit

Hall of Fame
If you've met a lot of 90 year olds, you'd see why. Can't partake in most of their hobbies and interests. Friends and siblings are all dead. Quality of life is far superior to quantity of life.
90..........numerically or miologically or genetically or...........watavaly:?)) remember some extreme quote like 'some dead are alive for ever, some alive are dead already' etcetc n need to google for de extract wording. so, narrow a bit...........some 90s are young as 20s n some 20s are old as 90s:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D..............
 
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