Olympics 2012 Men's Singles Final: [1] Roger Federer vs [3] Andy Murray

Federer or Murray?

  • Murray in 3

    Votes: 28 15.0%
  • Murray in 4

    Votes: 25 13.4%
  • Murray in 5

    Votes: 7 3.7%
  • Murray Retires

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Federer in 3

    Votes: 30 16.0%
  • Federer in 4

    Votes: 52 27.8%
  • Federer in 5

    Votes: 18 9.6%
  • Federer Retires

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • The Roof in 5

    Votes: 15 8.0%
  • Don't care unless it's Novak

    Votes: 8 4.3%

  • Total voters
    187

PrinceMoron

Legend
Federer and Delpo cried after their match. Fed said he was emotionally drained. Yeah, signs of an unimportant tournament right there.

Face it this Olympics meant everything to Fed and he failed...

Tennis at the Olympics is just a temporary distraction. It does not compare with WO in any way, you can tell that from the towels. WO top quality towels made by Christy. Olympic tennis towel worse quality than the mat on top of a Bar in a London pub, just a piece of rubbish that will be consigned to the bin in 6 months and completely forgotten about.

Murray played the best tennis all week, I saw several of Murray's matches and it was blindingly obvious he would win. Actually, the good thing about the Olympics was you could bring in beer, so yes it was a top tournament now I think about it.
 
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Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Don't compare different tournaments. The Olympics is different to the slams. FACT Rafa has won singles Gold and Fed NEVER will...



Fed wasn't injured, out of form or out of luck in the last 3 Olympics games. So there goes that excuse. In fact he was the red hot favorite considering he just won Wimbledon...

They ARE different tournaments, and olympics is nowhere near a slam. Slams show who's consistantly best over the length of a career, olympics is a much more random event. Nadal has nothing to do with this, and I'm not having a go at him. Murray has won this olympics in far more convincing mannor than Nadal won his and will have more Medals than Nadal. Nadal is still the far better player


What excuse am I making? The fact is you have 1 or 2 realistic chances to win Olympic gold. In 2004 Fed should have won and failed. In 2008 though, Nadal was clearly favourite for that and Federer was struggling that year. This year he was only favourite because he won Wimbledon but until then no one gave him a chance for winning it. And I've said it before, Federer cannot at his age, consistantly challenge for 5 set finals. It took him over 2 years to win a slam, but he's favourite to win another 5 set final a few weeks later? What are you smoking?
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
A word of caution, you're speaking to yet another LOLville account so you're wasting your time basically.

I sincerely doubt Fed will regret anything in his career when all is said and done.

oh it's jackass_bile? sorry hard to keep up with the multiple accounts of trolls. Thanks for letting me know though :)
 

FlashFlare11

Hall of Fame
This place is so fickle! What changed today? Nothing. Federer is still the World No. 1 and Wimbledon champion and, now, a silver medalist at the Olympics. Threads calling for his retirement or posts saying he's a massive failure? What a joke! There is a shortage of real tennis fans on this board. ****s of every kind rule here.
 

Seventeen

Rookie
I agree with TheFifthSet here. As a Federer fan if someone had told me Fed to win 7 at Wimbledon, pass Sampras for No 1 and win his 17th slam, and win Silver but not gold at the OG, I would have been more than pleased. No one can win every single thing every single time, no matter how good / great they are. Roger treated the 2 impostors of a) victory at Wimbledon and b) defeat at the Olympics; just the same, what a credit to him in the face of an obvious disappointment. He showed very generous gestures to Murray and Del Potro at the medal awards ceremony.

Sometimes fans can learn a lot from the man. Sometimes I think a lot of people expect too much from the man. Granted, he has spoiled his fans, but still. Just accept that there has to be a winner and a loser and take positives out of it. Silver is better than no medal and he gutted out a great comeback against Del Potro. Cut the man a break.

Well said.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
oh it's jackass_bile? sorry hard to keep up with the multiple accounts of trolls. Thanks for letting me know though :)

No problem mate.

It is interesting however that most people who have multiple active accounts around here are Nadal fans.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
A word of caution, you're speaking to yet another LOLville account so you're wasting your time basically.

I sincerely doubt Fed will regret anything in his career when all is said and done.

Another LOLville account? Maybe we should report him to the mod.

Back to the topic, I think it's also tough for Roger to expect him to beat Murray again after he was crushed at Wimbledon. Had it was another opponent instead, maybe Roger would have been more fired up. In this match, he seem disinterested, little energy, and play with no urgency.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
I missed that match and was planning to maybe watch in later - sounds like I shouldn't bother.

Watch it. Despite Federer looking like he had no heart for the fight, Murray played really well. He won a gold medal but perhaps more importantly,beat Federer on grass in straight sets over 5 sets in a final. Not even Nadal can say that. Not even after busting Federer up at RG 2008, could Nadal do what Murray just did, weeks after having his heart broken by Federer. No-one has beaten Fed in Straight sets over 5 on grass for ten years. Gotta give him credit.

Watch it and enjoy. Plus it won't take long...
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Federer did not suck--that's too much of a free pass/excuse. He played as always, but Murray simply outplayed him from every end.

Wait a minute, didn't you claim Murray sucked in Wimbledon final this year? And that he's a player who rolls over and dies for Fed or something?

If Fed doesn't get to have a free pass/excuse then the same goes for his opponents.
 

6-1 6-3 6-0

Banned
Although I picked Murray in 3, I did change my mind and think Murray in 4, as usually when Federer is tired he gets a set (see Roland Garros 2011 final, where Nadal won 7-5 7-6 5-7 6-1, Federer had stiff legs and was grunting plenty, though despite this Nadal won a record-equalling 6th Roland Garros title, which he has since broken to become the long king of that particular slam).

Did anyone notice that Federer was grunting more than usual? I did.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Federer did not suck--that's too much of a free pass/excuse. He played as always, but Murray simply outplayed him from every end.

bull****. Of course he sucked. Murray played well enough to win anyway, but he won with total ease because his opponent didn't have the fight.

Federer playing bad is not the reason he LOST, it's the reason he got DESTROYED. Same case with Fed vs nadal WTF 2011.

If anything Murray was playing not that much better than the way he did at Wimbledon, but Federer played worse and Murray never let him back in.
 

TennisBatman

Semi-Pro
Glad I picked the right player, with Murray in 5.

But I gave too much credit to Federer's past experience, as it obviously failed him today, even with the massive stakes at hand...
 

Crisstti

Legend
What excuse am I making? The fact is you have 1 or 2 realistic chances to win Olympic gold. In 2004 Fed should have won and failed. In 2008 though, Nadal was clearly favourite for that and Federer was struggling that year. This year he was only favourite because he won Wimbledon but until then no one gave him a chance for winning it. And I've said it before, Federer cannot at his age, consistantly challenge for 5 set finals. It took him over 2 years to win a slam, but he's favourite to win another 5 set final a few weeks later? What are you smoking?

Was he?. He had no slams on hc then.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Although I picked Murray in 3, I did change my mind and think Murray in 4, as usually when Federer is tired he gets a set (see Roland Garros 2011 final, where Nadal won 7-5 7-6 5-7 6-1, Federer had stiff legs and was grunting plenty, though despite this Nadal won a record-equalling 6th Roland Garros title, which he has since broken to become the long king of that particular slam).

Did anyone notice that Federer was grunting more than usual? I did.

Despite Federer being tired Nadal won? You really have to work on making excuses to kiss nadal's butt, cos that one was really poor :lol;
 

Omega_7000

Legend
McEnroe is a bandwagoner of the new thing.


When Federer got the slam record he was praising Federer amongst some of the greatest players of all tennis history (Laver, Borg, Sampras) and how Federer definitively was the best player in all of tennis history. Can you imagine that? McEnroe, had the straight audacity to go up to some of the most legendary players of all time and actually say that Federer was better than them straight to their faces?


Exactly.

True. He is most definitely a bandwagonner!
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Was he?. He had no slams on hc then.

He'd just beaten Federer at MC, Hamburg,RG and Wimbledon and had I think made certain he would ovvertake Federer as number one at some point in te year, as well as winning Canada.

Yep he was favourite to anyone with sense, who cares that he never won a hardcourt slam at that point? He's never won a grass one until a few weeks before and was quite clearly the man in form.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
bull****. Of course he sucked. Murray played well enough to win anyway, but he won with total ease because his opponent didn't have the fight.

I did not see Federer suffering from a lack of fight. What is not being observed is Murray's level of play (which appeared better than his Wimbledon form) makes federer appear to have a lack of fight, but it was there. It is no different than McEnroe's loss to Lendl in the '84 FO final--John was playing astoundingly well, but in the end, Lendl simply played better, but it does not take anything away from John's performance.

Federer needs no other excuses (no fight, fatigue, bored, etc.) for being outplayed.
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
Congratulations to Andy Murray for winning the Gold! Finally, he stepped up and did something special.



Sad for Roger, buy hey, he won his first Olympic Singles Medal. It's better than going out first round. Happy for Del Potro also, my heart went out to him after his tough loss on Friday.

I hope this marks the REAL arrival of Murray, and Del Potro. :)



I would now like to see Murray, Del Potro step up in the slams and make this a strong era. hehe!!!!
 
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Crisstti

Legend
He'd just beaten Federer at MC, Hamburg,RG and Wimbledon and had I think made certain he would ovvertake Federer as number one at some point in te year, as well as winning Canada.

Yep he was favourite to anyone with sense, who cares that he never won a hardcourt slam at that point? He's never won a grass one until a few weeks before and was quite clearly the man in form.

None of those were on hc.

He was going to be number 1 tafter the Olympics then independently of any points won there.

I don't see how not having won a hc slam was irrelevant. He hadn't even been on a final then.

He had no doubt all the momentum.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
I missed that match and was planning to maybe watch in later - sounds like I shouldn't bother.
Watch it batzy. Murray beat Fed much more convincingly on grass than Nadal ever did even when he was playing the tennis of his life. Hmmm...I wonder if that means Murray is actually more talented than Nadal :-? I mean, Nadal is a bad match-up and everything but it still took him the effort of his life to wrestle a five-set final on grass out of Federer's hands.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
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Well, Roger seems pretty happy with his medal. :)
Atleast he has medals in both singles and doubles events :lol:
 

Sartorius

Hall of Fame

That's very nice. :)


Another note on Murray: While Federer was sub-par, I think this was the most aggressive match Murray played against him and it showed. And overall in his matches against Djokovic and Federer, Murray's form on the forehand side was probably the best it ever was.
 

10is

Professional
Ummm... this was never in doubt, as was the fact that after that semi with Potro only idiotic ****s (on both sides) were "certain" about a 31 year old Federer easily prevailing in the Final.
 

hedera

Rookie
So happy for Muzza. I hope this will give him enough confidence to win the USO'12.

Of course I'm a little sad for Roger, this was his chance to get the Gold medal but he doesn't seem unhappy so it's good. The positive I can take from that is that Roger is probably going to play in Rio'16 to give it one last shot at the Olympics.
 

FlashFlare11

Hall of Fame
Ummm... this was never in doubt, as was the fact that after that semi with Potro only idiotic ****s (on both sides) were "certain" about a 31 year old Federer easily prevailing in the Final.

This is quite worrying for Roger's chances at another USO title. If the "Super Saturday" schedule doesn't change, playing a Bo5 SF and F back-to-back is going too much to ask of him, I think. This tournament really opened my eyes to how much time Roger really needs to recover from long matches.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
This is quite worrying for Roger's chances at another USO title. If the "Super Saturday" schedule doesn't change, playing a Bo5 SF and F back-to-back is going too much to ask of him, I think. This tournament really opened my eyes to how much time Roger really needs to recover from long matches.
He won Wimbledon. He's had a good year. That ought to be more than good enough at his age. I bet most people, if not all wish they had his year.
 

Antonio Puente

Hall of Fame
Congratulations, Fed, on becoming the first man to ever complete the Career Silver Slam. He is the first man to successfully lose the final of all four slams along with the Olympic final.
 

valiant

Hall of Fame
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Well, Roger seems pretty happy with his medal. :)
Atleast he has medals in both singles and doubles events :lol:

Where do you get these pics from Mandy. Amazing as always. Good to see Delpo and Fed smiling and happy. Murray still is in FOCUS mode.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
Congratulations, Fed, on becoming the first man to ever complete the Career Silver Slam. He is the first man to successfully lose the final of all four slams along with the Olympic final.
That's actually quite incredible :) The fact that he made all these finals and made them so many times. You're bound to lose some.
 

FlashFlare11

Hall of Fame
He won Wimbledon. He's had a good year. That ought to be more than good enough at his age. I bet most people, if not all wish they had his year.

Yeah, you're right. Actually, all I really want is for him to end the year ranked No. 1. Winning the USO would really cement him, so long as he defends his indoor points from last year, as the Y-E No. 1. But, he's done more than enough to satisfy what I was hoping he'd do this year. Now, I just want to enjoy his tennis while it lasts.
 

Fedex

Legend
I did not see Federer suffering from a lack of fight. What is not being observed is Murray's level of play (which appeared better than his Wimbledon form) makes federer appear to have a lack of fight, but it was there. It is no different than McEnroe's loss to Lendl in the '84 FO final--John was playing astoundingly well, but in the end, Lendl simply played better, but it does not take anything away from John's performance.

Federer needs no other excuses (no fight, fatigue, bored, etc.) for being outplayed.

And Lendl's reaction to Murray's Olympic gold?
"Well done. What time do you want to practice tomorrow?"
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veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Ummm... this was never in doubt, .
Oh really? Sure after all those finals Murray won against Fed, this result was SO predictable, lol.... Seriously, awesome win for Murray, it was long due after a lot of struggling vs the top 3. Murray leads Fed 9-8 in the h to h now and I also think it was the first time since 2003 Fed got straight-setted on grass.
 

10is

Professional
Yeah, you're right. Actually, all I really want is for him to end the year ranked No. 1. Winning the USO would really cement him, so long as he defends his indoor points from last year, as the Y-E No. 1. But, he's done more than enough to satisfy what I was hoping he'd do this year. Now, I just want to enjoy his tennis while it lasts.

I think winning both the USO ams WTF is asking way too much of Fed at this point. I would be ecstatic with a USO win, and it is possible provided he doesn't tax himself too much trying to maintain the #1 ranking especially if Djoker starts catching up to him. He has to pick his battles if he wants to win the war. I actually was never happy with his obsession about the olympics -- an event which I don't even follow -- because I knew he could mess up his fall hardcourt season with the ensuing fatigue and the physical/mental toll that the Wimbly/Olympic succession would entail.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
Oh really? Sure after all those finals Murray won against Fed, this result was SO predictable, lol.... Seriously, awesome win for Murray, it was long due after a lot of struggling vs the top 3. Murray leads Fed 9-8 in the h to h now and I also think it was the first time since 2003 Fed got straight-setted on grass.
*sigh*.. I bet Federer loses a lot of sleep over that :lol:
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
I did not see Federer suffering from a lack of fight. What is not being observed is Murray's level of play (which appeared better than his Wimbledon form) makes federer appear to have a lack of fight, but it was there. It is no different than McEnroe's loss to Lendl in the '84 FO final--John was playing astoundingly well, but in the end, Lendl simply played better, but it does not take anything away from John's performance.

Federer needs no other excuses (no fight, fatigue, bored, etc.) for being outplayed.

Wait wasn't Mac 2 sets to 0 up in that match? Yes totally different. Federer did not show up from the start. And it's not an excuse cos like I said Murray was playing well enough to win even if Federer was playing well, but he wasn't, hence what might have been a tough win was an easy one.

I guess nadal needs no excuses for his 6-3 6-0 loss at the WTF, his 2-6 6-2 6-0 loss at Hamburg 2007, his 6-4 6-4 loss at Madrid 2009, his RG loss to Soderling and his Wimby loss to Rosol? Cos I've heard plenty of those.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
I think winning both the USO ams WTF is asking way too much of Fed at this point. I would be ecstatic with a USO win, and it is possible provided he doesn't tax himself too much trying to maintain the #1 ranking especially if Djoker starts catching up to him. He has to pick his battles if he wants to win the war. I actually was never happy with his obsession about the olympics -- an event which I don't even follow -- because I knew he could mess up his fall hardcourt season with the ensuing fatigue and the physical/mental toll that the Wimbly/Olympic succession would entail.

Yep, me too. Especially this OG. No way will I watch it. Any of it.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Come on!!!! Waking up early to see his finals in Australia, staying up late to see the US Open final. The horrible feeling seeing him lose those finals. He's just given Federer one hell of a beating to win Olympic gold! Such a sweet feeling, hopefully this is the start.
Yes, I'm thinking Murray could be having a tremedous summer hard court season now. I'm intrigued how much of an impact this will have on the near future. Murray has been in the shadow of the other top 3 for so long. I also wonder if he's about to finally break through.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Oh really? Sure after all those finals Murray won against Fed, this result was SO predictable, lol.... Seriously, awesome win for Murray, it was long due after a lot of struggling vs the top 3. Murray leads Fed 9-8 in the h to h now and I also think it was the first time since 2003 Fed got straight-setted on grass.

he got straight setted on grass in Halle this year. In best of 5 though, not since 2002
 
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