#1 in doubles is 45y old... Thus, it still could make sense. Especially with his incredible level at the net.![]()
Roger Federer plotting a comeback - will he line up a Rafael Nadal re-match?
Roger Federer is eyeing up a return to tennis - could he be in line for a re-match with Rafael Nadal.www.tennis365.com
Someone's copingHilarious if Fed came back and took all the records again.
He wont play tennis again in the ATP tourI have been saying this since November, he's going to do some exhos but do not be shocked to see him take some wildcards on the tour
Federer has made waves recently by saying how good his knee feels and that he's been back on the court playing matches again.
I find this highly interesting. And I just saw this picture of him--what it tells us?
He is wearing the full outfit seen in his Uniqlo profile page, and those shoes look like they've just been untied after a match.
In other words....he is really playing the game again and he wants us to know. I also think appearing in his full "official Uniqlo PR kit" is significant.
Could the miracle really happen?
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Strength of eras is all relative.You don't win 19 slams from the baseline on slow modern surfaces with a trash BH.
Just as Djokovic stole peak Federer's soul and legacy thrice on his. But what can you do other than praise the better man.Nah, Pete. Novak is just a bat in this case.
Anyway, teenage Fed stomped defending champ PETE on Centre Court, what can you do. Beat him at his own game.
Djokovic beat a great man at the peak of his powers, and not just once or twice. Please don't make us Fedfans have to endure the heartbreak again.Let Djoker beat Fed one last time. It will forever cement the fact that Djoker beat an old man.
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Is this supposed to be surprising?ON stock is down 30% in two months and looks like Federer wants to make some extra money from exhibitions. He knows his buddy Nadal has connections with the Saudis and can set up some big paydays. Plus it looks like he misses the adoration of his fans.
Is this supposed to be surprising?
Your no fed fan, and mid to late thirties is not peak powers lol.Djokovic beat a great man at the peak of his powers, and not just once or twice. Please don't make us Fedfans have to endure the heartbreak again.
Not being funny can you repost that so its readable please? Your logic, if i have read it right which i may not have done, is totally flawed as in the noughties a 12th ranked Soderling would be a tougher opponent than say a 3rd ranked Zverev which is the point people are making about strength of eras. Fritz recently was no.3 lmao.interesting.
becouse
last 7 n1es titles was big ones while just 1 of last 7 feds titles was big one!
almost 1/4 of all no1es titles are slams and less than 1/5 of feds titles are slams!
almost 3/4 of no1es titles are big while about 1/2 feds titles are big!
nole won apr as many slams as MM titles while fed won 2,5 times more MM titles than slams!
fed won 1245 matches out of which 223 (18%) was vs top10 and 104 (8%) was top5 players while nole won 1135 matches, 259 (23%) vs top10 and 124 (11%) vs top5 players!
so nole won 28% more matches vs top10 and 38% vs top5 players out of all matches won compare with fed!
so, who was inflating his titles account by playing tournaments with less resistant?
Who surpassed him at W and USO and when did that happen?His record at *all* the slams was surpassed once, then twice by two players in his same generation before even retiring.
Hopefully that helps.
Do I really need to bust out the Maestro's self-evaluation?Your no fed fan, and mid to late thirties is not peak powers lol.
Bit of projection there my friend.He is a billionaire and you probably have to think a few times how many zeroes are in it , LOL
Do I really need to bust out the Maestro's self-evaluation?
What's Novak's most recent self-evaluation?Right, same like our Djoker who is at the peak of his powers losing previosuly to Paire, Kyrgios and now to Tabilo, BVZ, Opelka.
Likely would say worse than Fed in 2019. Much worse. Even that fed tied djoker at WC.What's Novak's most recent self-evaluation?
Likely would say worse than Fed in 2019. Much worse. Even that fed tied djoker at WC.
What's Novak's most recent self-evaluation?
Correct, he spoke about the highest level of current competition, not his highest level. Contrast this with Fed's unambiguous, "I'm a better player now than when I was at 24...". Try again dear Watson.He affirmed his commitment to competing at the highest level, stating that his victory against Alcaraz at the Australian Open demonstrates his enduring prowess.
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Djokovic on retirement: "If I could compete at that level against the best tennis players in the world, I would not compete anymore" - Tennis Tonic - News, Predictions, H2H, Live Scores, stats
Novak Djokovic, a decorated tennis player, remains a formidable force in the world, despite facing numerous challenges. He affirmed his commitment to competing at the highest level, stating that his victory against Alcaraz at the Australian Open demonstrates his enduring prowess. Despite...tennistonic.com
Correct, he spoke about the highest level of current competition, not his highest level. Contrast this with Fed's unambiguous, "I think I'm a better player now than when I was at 24...". Try again dear Watson.
It's quite simple actually. Anyone competing at the top of the game is competing at "the highest level". However, that does not mean they are competing at "their highest level" as they could actually possess a far higher level that would in and of itself raise the standard of the game. For example, as a freshman tennis player, I may be so good as to compete at "the highest level" of my high school conference, but when I'm a senior, I'm much better and now am at "my highest level", which would by definition, be higher than "the highest level" of my freshman year. Another example, Federer was competing at "the highest level" from 2003-2007, but reached "his highest level" between 2015-2019 (perhaps even going back as early as 2013).Your interpretation of something very straightforward leaves me puzzled. Djokovic is saying his win against Alcaraz shows he is competing at the highest level.
It's quite simple actually. Anyone competing at the top of the game is competing at "the highest level". However, that does not mean they are competing at "their highest level" as they could actually possess a far higher level that would in and of itself raise the standard of the game. For example, as a freshman tennis player, I may be so good as to compete at "the highest level" of my high school conference, but when I'm a senior, I'm much better and now am at "my highest level", which would by definition, be higher than "the highest level" of my freshman year. Another example, Federer was competing at "the highest level" from 2003-2007, but reached "his highest level" between 2015-2019 (perhaps even going back as early as 2013).
Hopefully that helps.
This part is your interpretation, not his evaluation. Despite your desire for it to be so, *the* and *my* highest level are not necessarily the same, as explained in my prior post. Now that we've made a swift stride out of fantasy land, let us contrast Nole's fairly routine quote about competing at the top of the game, with the Maestro's eternal self-appraisal that he is at the top of his game: "I think I’m a better player now than when I was at 24..."Djokovic is saying he is at the highest level that makes him in contention for the big titles. He has had a big win against Alcaraz after 2 losses at the holiest shrine of tennis. He is at his best now. Just that Tabilo, Opelka and BVZ are even better... the talent these days is awesome , not like the Grammapouloses days.
Djoker will NEVER be a "Federer type." Ever.Ok for the first part of what you wrote, I can give you that. But for the latter? What are YOU smoking: Djoker will not leave until all the records are broken. He's obsessed with being seen as a 'Federer' type.
Lol, we can tell you needed to say it. Feeling better now?Djoker will NEVER be a "Federer type." Ever.
Nah, Pete. Novak is just a bat in this case.
Anyway, teenage Fed stomped defending champ PETE on Centre Court, what can you do. Beat him at his own game.
It's going to be alright my friend. Roger's greatness, elegance, and grace will be shown and celebrated by tennis fans for decades. And let it be so.He slipped up once and answered a thread that was for Djokofans only. Pretty obvious the game he's playing and right now he's winning. Turning a thread about Roger playing exhibitions into yet another "Roger is a mug" discussion.
You...just...know.
Another classy gentleman come to the fore. Thank you ser.Please move to Former Pro section
Elementary, my dear Watson!Holmes has one purpose here and that is to argue that Federer is trash
Strength of eras is all relative.
Just as Djokovic stole peak Federer's soul and legacy thrice on his. But what can you do other than praise the better man.
Not at all, Federer was the Maestro for a reason. No one matched his ability to slice, hit a few shots, or masterfully dance around the backhand. Not even close. And his career proves it.But not to that degree.
Winning 10+ slams from the baseline in the modern era — with today’s slower surfaces — means your backhand can’t be trash.
It’s actually painfully simple to comprehend.
So following that logic we can agree that Fed is a better man than Pete when it comes to grasscourt prowess?
I mean Pete wasn't even 30, was a defending champ and got schooled by teenage Fed (with a "trashy" BH as you'd put it) in his own game.
Pretty embarrassing, eh?
He slipped up once and answered a thread that was for Djokofans only. Pretty obvious the game he's playing and right now he's winning. Turning a thread about Roger playing exhibitions into yet another "Roger is a mug" discussion.
Yawninteresting.
becouse
last 7 n1es titles was big ones while just 1 of last 7 feds titles was big one!
almost 1/4 of all no1es titles are slams and less than 1/5 of feds titles are slams!
almost 3/4 of no1es titles are big while about 1/2 feds titles are big!
nole won apr as many slams as MM titles while fed won 2,5 times more MM titles than slams!
fed won 1245 matches out of which 223 (18%) was vs top10 and 104 (8%) was top5 players while nole won 1135 matches, 259 (23%) vs top10 and 124 (11%) vs top5 players!
so nole won 28% more matches vs top10 and 38% vs top5 players out of all matches won compare with fed!
so, who was inflating his titles account by playing tournaments with less resistant?
You share in the paranoia my friend, seeing Fed hatred where naught but loving honesty and cordiality towards the great man exists. Equal parts admiration and acknowledgement are what makes a true fan, which is what I am. No fear of my favorite's legacy exists, it is eternally secure.You're getting paranoid and starting to see Novak and his fans everywhere.
I've been here since 2007, I can spot a Pete die-hard when I see one. I've had numerous arguments with them here in the past.
Novak (or Nadal when convenient) is just a bat he uses to bash Fed with, he doesn't care about him one iota otherwise. It all stems from the eternal butthurt of Fed daring to perceivingly supplant Pete in the eyes of the tennis public.
Either way, he (said poster) isn't winning jack. That Fed can still inspire such obsession and hatred (and not just adulation) even though he has been retired since 2022 is pretty telling, yes? If Fed as a player and his legacy were indeed as insignificant as they claim, a thread about him maybe playing some exos in the future wouldn't get them all hot and bothered. It would be very easy to ignore a mug with a thrashy BH, it isn't easy to ignore Fed or his impact on the game.
Not at all, Federer was the Maestro for a reason. No one matched his ability to slice, hit a few shots, or masterfully dance around the backhand. Not even close. And his career proves it.
Pete was enjoying the worst year of his career when he played a red hot Fed, so I agree, it is quite simple to comprehend why he lost
Ultimately, overcoming challenges is what life is about. In the case of Federer, he overcome the Everest of his backhand to make a career and legacy for himself.He could have had the best footwork, IO FH and slice in tennis history, if his topspin BH was trash he still wouldn't have been able to be anywhere near as successful as he was, not in the 2000s era which was dominated exclusively by power baseliners.
"Red hot Fed" who was a teenager and was yet to crack top 10
It is indeed simple to comprehend why he lost, for once he didn't face a choking headcase Goran, no serve Agassi or over the hill party animal Becker. Instead he played another guy who was a complete player with a dominant service game, lost to a better man as you'd put it.
It was one of Pete's historically best serving performances on grass but oh well, lost to a better man (as you'd put it).
You share in the paranoia my friend.
Well said. I couldn't agree more.Nah, I just call a spade a spade.
It's cool, at the end of the day, every sport is driven by emotions. The nature of said emotions? Well, that’s up to the individual.
Ultimately, overcoming challenges is what life is about. In the case of Federer, he overcome the Everest of his backhand to make a career and legacy for himself.
And what a legacy it was.