For me it’s comfortably crisp, above average spin potential, good feel, and holds tension well compared to other polys. IMHO, BK is currently the best bang for the buck poly string on the market.What did you like about Black Knight? How similar is it to the mainstream popular strings out there?
Actually, the manufactured twist is what I like about Big Spin over Firewire. Honestly, I don't find it any more difficult to string than any other poly. But, I don't use Big Spin or FireWire as a cross. My anecdotal experience is aggressive shaped strings as crosses work against the triangle shaped mains and the performance is lower. With my 16x19, 97sqin frames a slippery cross like GhostWire or Prince XC perform so much better. I'm not a big hitter and play doubs most of time so comparing mileage is definitely going to vary. Unless I'm stringing for someone who hits every shot with slice on both wings, I go triangle mains, super slick cross. I think you'll get increase in "durability" if you hybrid it as well.The other difficulty is in just stringing a twisted triangular string. As the crosses are pulled, the flat surfaces want to remain that way, so the string ends up excessively twisted in the section that has not been pulled across the mains unless I take care to make sure the twists travel across the mains.
For me, the issue with Big Spin was just that the pointed edge wore smooth, in essence becoming a thin gauge round string, rather than any physical property change in the string that caused playability to go down. You are right that the twists prevent as much string movement compared to using a round cross, and it may be that having more movement in the mains may cause the wear rate to go down. Still, in that five or six hours before the wear becomes an issue, the string plays really well.Actually, the manufactured twist is what I like about Big Spin over Firewire. Honestly, I don't find it any more difficult to string than any other poly. But, I don't use Big Spin or FireWire as a cross. My anecdotal experience is aggressive shaped strings as crosses work against the triangle shaped mains and the performance is lower. With my 16x19, 97sqin frames a slippery cross like GhostWire or Prince XC perform so much better. I'm not a big hitter and play doubs most of time so comparing mileage is definitely going to vary. Unless I'm stringing for someone who hits every shot with slice on both wings, I go triangle mains, super slick cross. I think you'll get increase in "durability" if you hybrid it as well.
Bummer. I enjoyed reading the reviews people posted about their strings. You get more honest reviews posted here than on some manufacturers sites. I would imagine he will not be back here.Apparently, TW and Mayami had a bit of falling out. Too bad they felt like they had to delete the entire thread instead of just the offending post.
I have a playtest thread here--- I hope I linked that to the right post with my thoughts.What did you like about Black Knight? How similar is it to the mainstream popular strings out there?
Yep. ThisFor me it’s comfortably crisp, above average spin potential, good feel, and holds tension well compared to other polys. IMHO, BK is currently the best bang for the buck poly string on the market.
I was a big fan of Discho. Not the best for hybrids but a great training string.Mamba Discho strings. Plus Mamba's natural gut string. I loved Bow brand of gut strings, they played fantastic.
-revolve or revolve.SPIN ??Wilson revolve 16G on RF97
Dunno....-revolve or revolve.SPIN ??
-what color is it?
-ahh yeah, if it was orange, it was the round w.revolveDunno....
It was orange, revolve probably
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Great call.Tourna Black Zone
I tried a couple of the polys, and liked them. I think one of them was iontec.I was a big fan of Discho.
FWIW I've tried both Black Knight and Tour Status (similar strings). I BELIEVE that Black Knight is suited for more advanced players, while Tour Status is softer and more forgiving. That was my impression, but I could be wrong. I haven't played a ton with Black Knight because I simply love Tour Status, so your mileage may vary.What did you like about Black Knight? How similar is it to the mainstream popular strings out there?
Yes, Iontec was great, both the pissy salmon color and black, but I def preferred the black. I don't touch multi so I can't comment much there but the natty gut they had was so cheap you may as well have sprung for it if you enjoy the playstyle.I tried a couple of the polys, and liked them. I think one of them was iontec.
But for me the real gem was discho multi fibre. IMOH, it was far and away the best multi on the market. Shame it doesn’t seem to be as available (if at all) anymore stateside. But word is Signum Pro Micronite is the same stuff. Never got around to confirming that though, as I caught the poly bug.
I always wanted to try the nat gut, but seemed like every time I was ready to put an order in they were out of stock.Yes, Iontec was great, both the pissy salmon color and black, but I def preferred the black. I don't touch multi so I can't comment much there but the natty gut they had was so cheap you may as well have sprung for it if you enjoy the playstyle.
You should really buy a set of VS and try it once in a hybrid with a round poly cross. I always thought it was too steep for me and wouldn't make a difference in my game.I always wanted to try the nat gut, but seemed like every time I was ready to put an order in they were out of stock.
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Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was referring to the Mamba nat gut - when they were still open.You should really buy a set of VS and try it once in a hybrid with a round poly cross. I always thought it was too steep for me and wouldn't make a difference in my game.
A lot of my friends play with. I really feel like it has had a noticeable benefit in my play vs. full poly.
My thinking is to heck with it. I am not getting any younger and I enjoy tennis and if I like the string so be it. I don't care what it costs.
How would you describe Durafluxx? I ordered them along with Firewire but have yet to use either strings. Thanks and be safe.speaking of Tier One - Durafluxx is pretty nice
muted to comfy feedback. granted i've used in in a very flexy racquet. The grey reminded me of tour bite and the string description rated it as firm. I found that I could swing out with the string. It will be firmer than Firewire and not give that intense ball bite...but not by much. What are your most common strings used?How would you describe Durafluxx? I ordered them along with Firewire but have yet to use either strings. Thanks and be safe.
I have used so many poly strings. The strings that I have used most often recently would include Wilson Revolve and Solinco Hyper G in 18 gauge. In a previous flexible frame I have used Technifiber Black Code 4S and it was very responsive with as much spin potential as any string on the market.muted to comfy feedback. granted i've used in in a very flexy racquet. The grey reminded me of tour bite and the string description rated it as firm. I found that I could swing out with the string. It will be firmer than Firewire and not give that intense ball bite...but not by much. What are your most common strings used?
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I enjoyed the black as well. I did try the salmon color. Their gut strings were great. They had trouble getting a supplier so that is why they stopped carrying it.Yes, Iontec was great, both the pissy salmon color and black, but I def preferred the black. I don't touch multi so I can't comment much there but the natty gut they had was so cheap you may as well have sprung for it if you enjoy the playstyle.
Great and underrated string. Used it for many years and love it.Topspin Cyber Flash 17
I bought a racquet 2nd hand on TT, and the string was in it.
I was shocked. Never before had I tried a poly with super feel![]()
Know you weren’t talking to me, but I thought I’d chime in. I recall durafluxx having a muted feel that was comfy, but never “mushy” or overly soft. First time out it gave me a predictable, no muss, no fuss response. I also demo’d RS-Lyon around the same time, and TBH I recall the two feeling fairly similar.How would you describe Durafluxx? I ordered them along with Firewire but have yet to use either strings. Thanks and be safe.
I still have a set of Tour Status laying around, that I’ve yet to try.FWIW I've tried both Black Knight and Tour Status (similar strings). I BELIEVE that Black Knight is suited for more advanced players, while Tour Status is softer and more forgiving. That was my impression, but I could be wrong. I haven't played a ton with Black Knight because I simply love Tour Status, so your mileage may vary.
I don't know the actual dynamics that go into the differences between, say, Tour Status and Black Knight. But my impressions were that Tour Status is softer and more playable. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know the chemical makeup of the strings. I am pretty certain that Tour Status and Firewire are the exact same material though, just shaped differently. Which makes it perfect for hybrids together.Know you weren’t talking to me, but I thought I’d chime in. I recall durafluxx having a muted feel that was comfy, but never “mushy” or overly soft. First time out it gave me a predictable, no muss, no fuss response. I also demo’d RS-Lyon around the same time, and TBH I recall the two feeling fairly similar.
The one thing I didn’t like with durafluxx was that the second time out it seemed to have dropped quite a bit of tension, so much so that it was fairly useless - couldn’t keep a ball inside the baseline. Indeed, much of that (if not all) could have been me. And maybe I strung it too low from the start. But once I tried Black Knight, I didn’t bother to go back and give durafluxx another shot.
I still have a set of Tour Status laying around, that I’ve yet to try.
As for Black Knight, indeed Tier 1 bills it as a string for 5.0 and above level players. Strange. I’m a 4.5, and I ignored their recommendation. I’m glad I did. Didn’t observe anything with BK that should scare off players beneath 5.0. Best I can guess is Tier One is trying to differentiate between their offerings.
I would guess that you’re right. I’ll def give the Tour status a go at some point.I don't know the actual dynamics that go into the differences between, say, Tour Status and Black Knight. But my impressions were that Tour Status is softer and more playable. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know the chemical makeup of the strings. I am pretty certain that Tour Status and Firewire are the exact same material though, just shaped differently. Which makes it perfect for hybrids together.
Let us know how it compares to Black Knight. I'm curious to hear your thoughts.I would guess that you’re right. I’ll def give the Tour status a go at some point.![]()
We are happy to hear that you like Black Knight. We just want to mention a few things with regards to string recommendations. The guidelines that we provide on our website are just suggestions based on the data we have collected over the past 5 years.As for Black Knight, indeed Tier 1 bills it as a string for 5.0 and above level players. Strange. I’m a 4.5, and I ignored their recommendation. I’m glad I did. Didn’t observe anything with BK that should scare off players beneath 5.0. Best I can guess is Tier One is trying to differentiate between their offerings.
Not to go off topic, but I agree. The majority of pros play with 16L/1.25mm or thinner gauges yet club level players insist on thicker gauges for durability and the illusion of control.One word of advice (and this is a recommendation for anybody who plays co-polyester strings in general): We have been receiving a lot of data through our system and one of the most striking tendencies that we see when analyzing our data is that players often play co-polyester strings at a gauge that is too thick!
Do you still use it and how do you compare it with Concept?Pros Pro Strategem 10. Such a solid all around offering for dirt cheap. Doesn't do anything one thing great, but if you've got the strokes, you can do as you please with it. Only issue is durability, but at that price point who cares?