One piece ATW question

[Mementi]

I have a question for stringing one piece ATW. I mostly string two piece but i found out that stringing one piece is also nice.

Now i saw some Youtube videos about people teaching or showing ATW patterns but i can't find a video about my method. I learnt it from a experienced stringer.

1) When both mains end at top of the racket, i tie the short side off and continue with the first cross on the long side. At the last cross i tie off.

2) When both mains end below. I skip the last main on the short side and tie the short side off. On the long side i string the last main to bottom, then i string the last cross and after that i string the last main on the short side. From there i string further the first cross.
I add 10% extra tension on the second last main on the short side and second last cross before i tie off.

Is this a good method?

 

[Irvin]

Sounds like a variation of the Universal ATW. Here is one by R Parnell where he used the short side for the top cross.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUDO10wBpmo

 

[Mementi]

I am going to try this the next time. Now i just tie off the second last main string and go around with the last main string on the long side and start the first cross. Parnell uses the second last main on the short side for the first cross. Then he go around with the last main on the long side and start the second cross.

 

[Mementi]

What i find strange is that Parnell has both knots on the same side of the racket. Most pictures and string jobs i saw had 1 knot at the upper left side and one on the right bottom.

 

[Irvin]

What i find strange is that Parnell has both knots on the same side of the racket. Most pictures and string jobs i saw had 1 knot at the upper left side and one on the right bottom.

That would be for one piece. For two piece both mains end at the top or bottom. Then the top and bottom crosses tie off at the top and bottom so there are 3 knots on one end and 1 on the other.

 

[Mementi]

That would be for one piece. For two piece both mains end at the top or bottom. Then the top and bottom crosses tie off at the top and bottom so there are 3 knots on one end and 1 on the other.

No, i mean that some people tie off the second last main on the short side instead of doing the first cross. Then you have one knot in the upper left. Or when the mains both end on top, then you tie the last main off on top and with the longer main you start the first cross.

Is there advantage if both mains end on top that instead of tying the last main off (on the short side) you string the first cross and tie off. The longer main that ends on top starts with the second cross.

 

[am1899]

What i find strange is that Parnell has both knots on the same side of the racket. Most pictures and string jobs i saw had 1 knot at the upper left side and one on the right bottom.

There's really nothing strange about it. You're not always going to have both knots of a 2 piece on the opposite side (left to right) of the racquet. It depends on the racquet - specifically the number of crosses. If memory serves me, an even number of crosses should result in knots on opposite sides of the racquet. Odd number of crosses should result in knots on the same side. There may be exceptions to this, but my head hurts trying to visualize and think about it.

Is there advantage if both mains end on top that instead of tying the last main off (on the short side) you string the first cross and tie off. The longer main that ends on top starts with the second cross.

Yes - You no longer have one loose outside main (the last short side main). This is because after you tension the last main on the short side, you are going to run in the top cross before tying off. With this method, the top and bottom cross are potentially the "loosest" strings, as they are the ones right before a tie off. If you were not to do this method, instead of the top cross being loose, your last main on the short side would be loose. This is not ideal because the last main on your long side will be significantly tighter.

 

[Irvin]

...Is there advantage if both mains end on top that instead of tying the last main off (on the short side) you string the first cross and tie off. The longer main that ends on top starts with the second cross.

depends on the racket and pattern.

 

[Mementi]

depends on the racket and pattern.

But i think it works with every racket. If the mains end on top you can string one piece and end with tying off the first and last cross. When the mains end on the bottom you can use the universal ATW and also end tying off the first and second last cross. So i can make this my standard and stop tying off main strings. I just want a good method i can always use.

 

[Mementi]

Edit: I made a typing error. If you go universal ATW you tie off the second last cross.

 

[Irvin]

But i think it works with every racket. If the mains end on top you can string one piece and end with tying off the first and last cross. When the mains end on the bottom you can use the universal ATW and also end tying off the first and last cross. So i can make this my standard and stop tying off main strings. I just want a good method i can always use.

Works yes, but you asked:

...Is there advantage if both mains end on top that instead of tying the last main off (on the short side) you string the first cross and tie off. The longer main that ends on top starts with the second cross.

Whether or not there is an advantage depends on the racket

Edit: I made a typing error. If you go universal ATW you yie off the second last cross.

That depends on the racket too.

 

[bluegrass_stringer]

If the mains ends at the top, you can do a "natural" one piece. Have extra length on the short side and string up the first cross and then tie off. Then finish crosses with long side.

 

[Muppet]

This is my favorite ATW. It's very symmetrical. It only requires one starting clamp. Placement of the starting clamp is easier on my 18x20 racquets than my 16x19 one. On the bottom tie off you'll see YuLitle use pliers, but if you maneuver your starting clamp well that won't be necessary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIA2AKB3AJw&playnext=3&playnext_from=PL