One-Piece vs, Two-Piece String Jobs

[NightBandit]

If I'm not stringing a hybrid, is there any advantage at all of stringing my racquet with a two-piece string job rather than a one-piece string job? Or should I just always do a one-piece string job?

Thank you,

NightBandit

 

[tennisxlsdk]

Yes please, I would like some advice on the same issue as well, particulary because I am terrible at tying knots, way too much tension loss on the end strings, even though I have read that it doesn't matter I feel it could be tighter. thanks!

 

[RestockingTues]

I've always thought that two pieces were easier to do than one-pieces.

For the record I haven't bothered with learning how to do a one piece yet It's on my to do list however

 

[Dan007]

actually one piece isn't harder than two piece once you know the method, but its a pain to work with long strings and kinks a lot.

 

[furyballs]

I always string one piece unless a customer or manufacturer calls for two. It's faster and easier IMHO.

 

[psp2]

Pros/cons:

One piece job:
>Pros:
1. 2 knots;
2. more uniform tension on tie-off string (less tension loss due to less knots);
3. no starting/anchor knots.

>Cons:
1. pulling longside during main install;
2. forced to string Bottom > Top on certain frames/patterns unless ATW/Box pattern is used;
3. possible hard weaves during ATW/Box patterns.

Two piece job:
>Pros:
1. less string to pull during main install;
2. hybrid capable;
3. always able to string crosses Top > Bottom;

>Cons:
1. starting/anchor knot needed
2. 4 knots
3. some frames require a starting clamp (eg., Babolat PStorm/Control)
4. tension loss due to 4 knots

I'm sure more stringers will chime in.....

 

[Bud]

Pros/cons:

One piece job:
>Pros:
1. 2 knots;
2. more uniform tension on tie-off string (less tension loss due to less knots);
3. no starting/anchor knots.

>Cons:
1. pulling longside during main install;
2. forced to string Bottom > Top on certain frames/patterns unless ATW/Box pattern is used;
3. possible hard weaves during ATW/Box patterns.

Two piece job:
>Pros:
1. less string to pull during main install;
2. hybrid capable;
3. always able to string crosses Top > Bottom;

>Cons:
1. starting/anchor knot needed
2. 4 knots
3. some frames require a starting clamp (eg., Babolat PStorm/Control)
4. tension loss due to 4 knots

I'm sure more stringers will chime in.....

PSP, why does a Babolat PS/Control require a starting clamp?

 

[psp2]

PSP, why does a Babolat PS/Control require a starting clamp?

...b/c the cross tieoff is on the 3rd cross (not on a main). You need a starting clamp so you can weave the first several crosses (I do 4), then tieoff at the 11 H.

Can you see the cross tieoff hole (3rd grommet from the left on the top photo)? That's the cross tieoff hole which is the 3rd cross.

 

[Bud]

...b/c the cross tieoff is on the 3rd cross (not on a main). You need a starting clamp so you can weave the first several crosses (I do 4), then tieoff at the 11 H.

Can you see the cross tieoff hole (3rd grommet from the left on the top photo)? That's the cross tieoff hole which is the 3rd cross.

Ah, IC.

Can you anchor the cross on one of the mains further up the head? Is there room in any other holes?

Sometimes, I'll use another hole that is easily accessible to tie off a main, cross or anchor a cross.

 

[NightBandit]

Thanks for your help guys.

Let me re-phrase my question a little: From a playability standpoint, is there any difference between a one-piece and a two-piece string job?

Thanks,

NightBandit

 

[davidahenry]

All other things being equal, one piece stringing should produce a slightly tighter stringbed.

DH

 

[GPB]

Stringing 2-piece also gives the option of using different tensions, even without using a true hybrid.

 

[TennezSport]

2 Piece as a standard...........

We use the 2 piece stringing technique here as our standard process because of the number of Hybrid jobs we get today. So ALL racquets are now done 2 piece unless the customer requests otherwise or the manufacturer states 1 piece only. We always string head to throat; no exceptions and in the case of a 1 piece request, if the mains end at the throat we use a ATW pattern.

Our 2 piece stringing process is always the same starting with the mains and increasing the tension on the last mains by 10% to minimize any tension loss from the knots. The crosses always start at the head with a starting clamp and complete at the throat. This allows us to increase the tension on the first and last cross by 10% as we do with the mains for the knots, and all knots are Parnell knots, which delivers a clean, small but effective knot with the tail against the frame.

So far, our string bed(SB) tests show that there is no difference in a 1 or 2 piece job if done this way.

Cheers, TennezSport

 

[jim e]

All other things being equal, one piece stringing should produce a slightly tighter stringbed.

DH

David, why do you say that? If you tie a good cinched up knot, and increase the tie off string tension, there should be no difference.I usually use the knot button and that as you know is 10% increase.(When I pluck the end main, it has a higher pitch than the second to last one , and sounds just where it should.I know some of the slam stringers increases the tie off anywheres from 3-5kgs. which is a substantial amount, so there should be no tension loss, therefore all things being equal there should be no difference.

 

[davidahenry]

David, why do you say that? If you tie a good cinched up knot, and increase the tie off string tension, there should be no difference.I usually use the knot button and that as you know is 10% increase.(When I pluck the end main, it has a higher pitch than the second to last one , and sounds just where it should.I know some of the slam stringers increases the tie off anywheres from 3-5kgs. which is a substantial amount, so there should be no tension loss, therefore all things being equal there should be no difference.

I guess I was thinking that if you string one piece and don't increase the tension on the last main and cross OR string two piece and don't increase the tension on the last mains and crosses, the one piece job would be slightly (slightly being the key word) tighter - simply due to the fact that you may lose a little bit of tension when tying off four times as opposed to two.

Could be flawed logic - as I am still learning.

DH

 

[psp2]

Ah, IC.

Can you anchor the cross on one of the mains further up the head? Is there room in any other holes?

Sometimes, I'll use another hole that is easily accessible to tie off a main, cross or anchor a cross.

I just strung a friend's PStorm Tour with a hybrid. The answer to your question is a NO. Grommet holes for the last few mains are too small. You *could* enlarge a hold using an awl, but that's the only way, IMO.

 

[uk_skippy]

Stringing 2-piece also gives the option of using different tensions, even without using a true hybrid.

This can also be done with 1-piece.

Regards

Paul

 

[Deleted member 25923]

Pros/cons:

One piece job:
>Pros:
1. 2 knots;
2. more uniform tension on tie-off string (less tension loss due to less knots);
3. no starting/anchor knots.

>Cons:
1. pulling longside during main install;
2. forced to string Bottom > Top on certain frames/patterns unless ATW/Box pattern is used;
3. possible hard weaves during ATW/Box patterns.

Two piece job:
>Pros:
1. less string to pull during main install;
2. hybrid capable;
3. always able to string crosses Top > Bottom;

>Cons:
1. starting/anchor knot needed
2. 4 knots
3. some frames require a starting clamp (eg., Babolat PStorm/Control)
4. tension loss due to 4 knots

I'm sure more stringers will chime in.....

Also, one piece gets tangled easier, but uses less string.