One reason why Fed has the best forehand in the game

ChiefAce

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He finishes almost every single time way below his left shoulder. Finishing low allows him to accelerate the racket head at rediculous speeds while not hitting the ball long. The only problem I have with his low follow through is that the majority of his errors come from forehands he dumps in the net. His depth on the forehand really isn't that good but the angles and speed he gets from it are just amazing. He really hits through the ball instead of lifting it so much and taking the pace off. Tons of internal arm rotation on the thing.

Watch any junior ranked top 25 nationally in the USTA and you will see them doing the same thing. Kids are being tought this low follow through now.
 
During the intro they showed Fed at 10 years old playing. His stroke was pretty similiar to what it is today. I found that amazing.
 
It is easier to hit the balls on the rise with low follow-through. The combination of speed, spin, and hitting very early makes Federer's forehand the best in the business. You have to watch in person to see the actions on the ball just incredible.
 
The tennis guy said:
It is easier to hit the balls on the rise with low follow-through. The combination of speed, spin, and hitting very early makes Federer's forehand the best in the business. You have to watch in person to see the actions on the ball just incredible.


I've seen it in person and one reason he gets so much spin is from the rotation of his arm and forearm, it almost forces him to follow through low. It's really amazing how he hits it and its such a great shot. The man is just incredible.
 
Fed's whippy forehand generates so much top spin and pace, its simply incredible just to watch, especially his inside - out forehands which lands very deep with plenty of spin and kicks really high even when playing on hard courts!
 
Actually, what makes Federer's forehand so good is not any of these traits in my opinion. It's his DISGUISE. As Hewitt said, you don't really know where he's going with it. Federer stalks the ball, and has a very stealth swing. It's almost like he's sweeping the ball in with a magic cape, then shoots it out at random. It's like playing a ball machine with random oscillation, but where the actual machine doesn't rotate one way or another to give away the direction...then, that's REALLY tough no matter the pace. However, if the machine rotates, then it's far easier given the same pace.

Federer's forehand is not the hardest in the game, nor does it have the most spin, nor does he get the most angle, nor does he hit the ball the flattest and most penetrating, etc. What he does have is a remarkably adaptable and fluid forehand that allows him to feel comfortable from deep behind the court defending (where Agassi's stroke is too rigid) with top like the claycourters, allows him to take the ball on the rise like Agassi in a half-volley manner, allows him to hit angled shots with the same prep as he does his drive forehand, etc.

Sampras and Korda hit purely flatter, more penetrating forehands, but were inconsistent. Bruguera hit it with more viscious topspin, but would often tire periodically through matches because of the energy expenditure. Berasategui could slap shot, string ray winners at any time from anywhere on the court; but his backhand was so bad it didn't always matter, haha. Courier hit a consistently heavier forehand, but with no capacity for angles or variety. Gonzales, well no one hits it harder than him; but at the same time like Bruguera the energy expenditure often leaves him periodically petered out and out of gas during matches (see what happened to Roddick when he started flailing at Wimbledon this year...effective in spurts, but what happens when your turbo boost take goes empty?). Roddick's got more power and spin AND racket head speed (yes, Federer generates a lot of it, but there is no doubt guys in my mind that guys like Roddick, Bruguera, Ferrero, and Gonzales generate more...but at the same time they have to waste so much more energy doing so). Santoro can carve up any angle on the court at any time, but problem is that's all he got...somebody left the mustard off the hot dog. Agassi's got an extremely precise forehand with pace that he can take on the rise with his short swing, punchy swing...but this compact swing also makes him rigid and inflexible when defending, on the run, or pushed behind the baseline.

All in all, what Federer has going for him is what Rios did when his forehand was at his best...a fluid yet compact swing that allows him to disguise his shots better than anyone else, hence leaving the flat and wrong footed more often than normal. I.e. You ask any pro to hit an extreme angle and they can do it, noww make 'em do it so that it looks exactly the same as their power down the line forehand...THAT is where Rios and Federer have/had the competition beat at their best.

If you break down their forehands, they were never really THE best in anyone category, but it was their silky preparation that almost LULLED you into sleep.

What Rios and Federer also have are forehands that are neither extremely western nor extremely eastern, nor is their preparation more suited to one or the other. Everything just kind of falls into a happy medium. As such, it is their balance and adaptability on the forehand under ALL conditions that allows him them to MINGLE but not necessarily standout under ANY situation until they get that juicy sitter to go for the knock-out blow...which really any competent pro should be able to deliver, should they be able to hang in a point long enough to get such a juicy ball.

Knowing all this, this is why when at their best Federer and Rios never seemed to be pressured on their forehand. It was simply the symmetry and balance of it all, being able to deal with any situation like water, absorb any blow like water...and, of course, like Bruce Li they too could strike fast when you least expected it, even knock you out with a one-inch punch, haha.

Bottom-line, Federer's forehand is not the best because he hits the hardest, with the most spin, or with the most angle; it's because you can't read which shot he's going to employ. It's like with the serve, Roddick can place the ball well and hit every kind of spin in a most VICIOUS way and with unmatched speed...but several opponents have commented that his serve is very readable. Leaning in the right direction on the return of serve is half the battle...

Why should it be any different on the groundstrokes? When I watch Federer's forehand, I'm never just outright blown away by his pace, spin, angles, or ability to take the ball on the rise. As I've said, I've seen all of this done just a hair better by the "specialists" in each one category; but I've never seen all these elements combined with such across the board mastery. If the best score were a 10, Federer would be an 8.5 across the board. When you factor in that you can't read his shot, then that effectively makes those individual 8.5 score 9.5s across the board. Factor in 9.5s across the board, and you're going to have opponents who look like they don't know what hit them...and more importantly, from WHERE. Collectively, Federer's forehand is like Voltron, a lot of really nifty lion robots with nifty individual traits that alone were not necessarily FORMIDABLE but certainly *skilled*. COMBINED, however, they form Voltron, a truly unstoppable force with a really, really cool sword to boot, haha.
 
The best I can say for Federer's forehand is that he plays black magic with his racket. Think about it, it's like the old children's hand ball game. One of the most effective and deadliest plays was the one no one saw coming. The one where you look like you're going take a huge strike at the ball, but then at the last second swing over the ball and call black magic leaving everyone else flat-footed and out.

It's like in baseball, would you rather have a pitcher with a 97 to 99 mph fastball and nothing else? Or would you rather have a pitcher with 92 to 95mph fastball, a splitter, a sinker, a knuckleball, a screwball, a slider, a curveball, a cut fastball, and a changeup? IF you realy did have a mastery of all those shots at an above average but not greatest of all time level? It wouldn't matter. The shear variety...no batter would know what hit them, they would never know what pitch to expect next, there minds would be filled with too many thoughts, they'd look slow to react, and so off-balance that even a mediocre fastball tossed right down the middle at 87mph might catch them off guard, and lead to a strikeout. Combine all this variety, with say ultimate disguise? With an efficient and economical motion that doesn't leave you gasping for breath by the 6th? With the same arm and positioning on EVERY pitch? Then, seriously, no one would no what hit them. They'd constantly be off balance. It wouldn't matter if you had the absolute BEST pitch. It's like comparing Greg Maddux to Troy Percival. Who's a better pitcher? Both are good, but only one is GREAT. And that's Maddux. He simply befuddled batters at his best. Percival, on the other hand, was all about power...usually effective, but everyone knew what to do...just sit on the fastball, and hope you can take it for a ride...either that or pop up or whiff, haha. But at least, everyone knew what they were facing, could brace for the storm. Now the thing is, Federer's got Maddux' mastery BUT he also adds good but not great power. It's like 92 to 95 mph fastball compared to a 97 to 99 fastball, more than good enough if you know how to use it.
 
Quite an essay. Did you write that for a school assignment?

You made a few good points (fed's forehand disguise and variety make it a great shot) a A-LOT of analogies. My favorite was the Voltron stuff....heheheheh
 
Fed's depth on the forehand not that good? The depth of his forehand in the final was the best i've seen for a long time. He was slugging it that hard it would have been a feat to get it short.
 
Many of his forehands land just past the service line, I didn't say he never hit the ball deep but look at his errors. How many times does he hit long? His forehand has a definite tendency to land shorter which explains the errors in the net. This is because of his low finish on the forehand.


If you doubt it try it yourself, next time you go hit try finishing close to your left elbow on the forehand and watch how much shorter the balls lands. It also helps to add some driving spin as well as pace because you aren't lifting the ball as much.
 
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