Open era leaders in the top 14 events

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timnz

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In the Open era, who are the leaders at the 4 Slams, the WTF and the 9 Masters 1000's?

Australian Open - Federer - 6 Wins, 1 runner up, 7 Semi-finals (Note: Djokovic with 6 wins and 3 Quarter finals behind Federer)

French Open - Nadal - 10 Wins

Wimbledon - Federer - 8 Wins, 3 runner-ups

US Open - Sampras - 5 wins, 3 runner-ups (Note: Federer at 5 wins and 2 runner-ups, Connors at 5 wins and 2 runner-ups, both behind Sampras)

WTF - Federer - 6 wins, 4 runner-ups

Indian Wells - Federer - 5 wins, 2 runner-ups (Note: Djokovic at 5 wins and 1 runner-up, slightly behind)

Miami - Agassi - 6 wins, 2 runner-ups (Note: Djokovic at 6 wins and 1 runner-up, slightly behind)

Monte Carlo - Nadal 10 wins, 1 runner-up

Rome - Nadal - 7 wins, 2 runner-ups

Hamburg (until and including 2008)/Madrid Clay (2009 onwards) - Federer 6 wins, 2 runner-ups (note: Nadal 5 wins, 4 runner-ups - very close)

Canadian Open - Lendl - 6 wins, 3 runner-ups

Cincinatti - Federer - 7 wins

Madrid Indoor(until and including 2008)/Shanghai - Murray - 4 wins, 1 runner-up

Paris Indoor - Djokovic - 4 wins

So at the top 14 events we have:

Federer - leading at 6 events

Nadal - leading at 3 events

Djokovic - leading at 1 event

Sampras - leading at 1 event

Lendl - leading at 1 event

Agassi - leading at 1 event

Murray - leading at 1 event
 
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mr tonyz

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Doesn't Nadal have only 4 Madrid Clay wins plus 1 Hamburg Masters = 5 not 6? Aren't we confusing his lone Madrid Indoor win into this?
 
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mr tonyz

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Doesn't Nadal have only 4 Madrid Clay wins + 1 Hamburg Masters = 5 not 6? Aren't we confusing his lone Madrid Indoor win into this?
 
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mr tonyz

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Doesn't Nadal have only 4 Madrid Clay wins + 1 Hamburg Masters = 5 not 6? Aren't we confusing his lone Madrid Indoor win into this?
 
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chut

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mr tonyz said:
Doesn't Nadal have only 4 Madrid Clay wins + 1 Hamburg Masters = 5 not 6? Aren't we copnfusing his lone Madrid Indoor win into this?
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Yes good catch, Nadal won Hamburg twice, but 1 as a M1000, 1 as a 500. He also won Madrid 5 times but one as 1st indoor (now Shangai).

It can get tricky with time. Becker also won 1st indoor 4 times (Stuttgart once, Stockholm 3 times), so he's almost tied with Murray on that 8th slot.
 
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mr tonyz

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chut said:
Yes good catch, Nadal won Hamburg twice, but 1 as a M1000, 1 as a 500. He also won Madrid 5 times but one as 1st indoor (now Shangai)
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So this would mean that Federer in fact owns the slot with his 4 x Hamburg Masters + 2 Madrid Clay wins (1 Red Clay & 1 Blue Clay) = 6 total? with Nadal in second place with 5 combined wins?
 
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timnz

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mr tonyz said:
So this would mean that Federer in fact owns the slot with his 4 x Hamburg Masters + 2 Madrid Clay wins (1 Red Clay & 1 Blue Clay) = 6 total? with Nadal in second place with 5 combined wins?
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Right on - I have corrected it. That makes Federer the leader in 6 of the top 14 events
 
AnOctorokForDinner

AnOctorokForDinner

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Becker is the actual leader of the fall masters.

1st fall - 5 titles: 4 in Stockholm ('88, '90, '91, '94) and 1 in Stuttgart ('96).
2nd fall - 4 titles: 2 in Tokyo ('86, '88) and 2 in Paris ('89, '92).

There is also the question of McEnroe, who has 5 titles in London (Wembley) when it was a top tier event, and 2 more in Stockholm when it replaced Wembley as the last "masters", not counting 2 other Stockholm titles before. If these are counted together, than McEnroe is the king of the last masters slot with 7 titles to his name.
 
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Red Rick said:
I'm talking about the Olympics lol.

Though I guess it would be top 15 events, wherever you want to rank it, though don't try to tell me it's a lesser tournament than a 500
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Yeah I'd have that in the Top 15 somewhere, I just forgot about it because it's not in OP's list
 
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I would rate the Olympics at the same level as a WTF win, but the WTF is more important for a player to win in their career by far.

The Olympics is only every four years and the WTF every year, so there is less of an excuse for a top player to not win the WTF.
 
Red Rick

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Firstservingman said:
I would rate the Olympics at the same level as a WTF win, but the WTF is more important for a player to win in their career by far.

The Olympics is only every four years and the WTF every year, so there is less of an excuse for a top player to not win the WTF.
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I think they're somewhat incomparable. I think the Olympics are bigger, but they can not really be a hole in your resume, they're cake sized cherry on top of another cake
 
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Red Rick said:
I think they're somewhat incomparable. I think the Olympics are bigger, but they can not really be a hole in your resume, they're cake sized cherry on top of another cake
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Wouldn't that ruin the first cake?

e.g. Murray

:D :)
 
Mainad

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Chanwan said:
still disappointed. How on earth is Murray ahead anywhere but the Olympics? Puzzles the mind :confused::cool::p
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At the Eighth Masters (which has had 5 different locations) he has won 4 titles (3 in Shanghai, 1 in Madrid) and 1 runner-up (Shanghai). This beats the record of any other player at this particular Masters event.
 
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No offense to Murray but how the hell is he leading anywhere besides the Olympics?
 
FHtennisman

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Mainad said:
At the Eighth Masters (which has had 5 different locations) he has won 4 titles (3 in Shanghai, 1 in Madrid) and 1 runner-up (Shanghai). This beats the record of any other player at this particular Masters event.
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How many does Fed have, must be close to Murray's record?
 
titoelcolombiano

titoelcolombiano

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Djoker is in second place at AO, IW & Miami, you would think he will add to his tally by the end of his career - but Fed probably will at these tournies also. Rafa can become Hamburg / Madrid GOAT by defending his title this year.
 
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Tornes

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Mainad said:
At the Eighth Masters (which has had 5 different locations) he has won 4 titles (3 in Shanghai, 1 in Madrid) and 1 runner-up (Shanghai). This beats the record of any other player at this particular Masters event.
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If we are counting tournaments from 1970, which we are (because otherwise there would be no Lendl in Canada), then actually not.. The best recort has Boris Becker with 7 wins in that time slot. Tokyo 2x (86,88), Paris (when it was 8th Masters - 89), Stockholm 3x (90,91,94) and Stuttgart (96).

Also last slot belongs to McEnroe with 5 wins at London (78,79,80,82,83) and 2 at Stockholm as last Masters (84,85).
 
Mainad

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Tornes said:
If we are counting tournaments from 1970, which we are (because otherwise there would be no Lendl in Canada), then actually not.. The best recort has Boris Becker with 7 wins in that time slot. Tokyo 2x (86,88), Paris (when it was 8th Masters - 89), Stockholm 3x (90,91,94) and Stuttgart (96).

Also last slot belongs to McEnroe with 5 wins at London (78,79,80,82,83) and 2 at Stockholm as last Masters (84,85).
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I'm going with the official ATP stats which dates Masters events from 1990 (when they first became mandatory events).
 
titoelcolombiano

titoelcolombiano

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Sputnik Bulgorov said:
That's actually a terrific point.. He hasn't won USO in 10 years, but to be fair, he made the final as recently as 2015 so it wouldn't be that much of a shocker.
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Yes agreed. I was being a bit cheeky. He is a consistent contender at the US Open and will be this year but he certainly won't be as hot a favourite as at Wimbledon.
 
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