Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by TennisCanada1, Dec 11, 2010.
Ntrp or any comments welcome
it is really hard to tell. i mean you were just hitting. NTRP is determined by your results at a certain level. i mean ive seen guys who patty cake the ball play at 5.0 and ive seen people who have strokes like fed but play at the 3.5. so it is really hard to tell
Oh I see, il get a video of points too
well i mean its not that, a better understanding would be whats your national/sectional ranking, that would be a better tool to use than the video.
Obviously you are a top level trained athlete in good shape and molded.
Would like to see some more variety on forehands, more pure flat winner shots once in a while. Seems most of your forehands "float" in, whether you hit them high over the net or low. Maybe once every 7 or so, really flatten it out, end the rally with a clean powerful winner, so the next rally can start with a new ball, showing your ability to put the ball away on your demand.
Volleys are kind of mechanical, forehand being more solid, backhand needing more longer followthru every time since it can't be punched hard like a forehand volley, it needs a longer stroke with full shoulder turn.
Serves are your style, just fine, with decent explosion and rackethead speed, nice high elbow finish, consistent, deliberate setup, all good.
Good overheads, mostly 3/4 speed, need to show backhand overheads?
Very good player probably playing higher singles in lower divisions.
Seems you're smarter than the average bear.
you certainly have the tools to compete at the 4.5 level.... strokes are all fundamentally sound.
the biggest thing I see is you are stiff with your ground strokes... you seem to use the arm muscle make the racket drop, and the forward swing see your arm being a little stiff also.
watch the pros, e.g. Fed, how they use gravity to let the racket drop happen with a noodle like relaxed arm, which they can then whip thru with the core rotation.
the loose arm is not only for better power (free racket acceleration from mother nature - gravity), but also consistency, because it's always easier to give a little nudge to something that is already moving by itself (gravity driven racket/arm drop), then to use the muscle to move something that is stiff and static.
I hope that makes sense... but if you can pay attention to this during your practice, you will understand what relaxation feels like.
interestingly, this stiffness actually makes your volley better than your groundies..... but with improvement you should feel the difference between a loose arm for groundies, vs. stiff (or less loose) arm for volleys
I'm impressed with how steady you and your hitting partner are. You were keeping those cross court rallies going very well. Footwork is good but seems a little heavy. You could be a little lighter on your feet. From your hitting alone, I'd say you're at least a 4.5. But, you could be higher or lower depending on how well your shots hold up in match play. Your serve is good. 2 things I would add to your serve are: (1) more shoulder turn in the trophy pose (get your back turned more to the target), and (2) wait until you are ready for your upswing to transfer your weight into the court. By transferring your weight AS you swing up at the ball, the weight transfer adds body mass and power to your shot.
Need to flow more especially on the fh side. Your robbing yourself of power by having those hitches. Try to move through the ball more on the fh as well, you backed up alot.
davisville / mayfair 5.5-6.0
You guys are incredibly consistent.
Could be a very good 4.5 or a weak 4.0 depending on how you compete.
You looked well trained and coached, but like you have not done it too long. You seem like a guy who has not played his best tennis yet, which I think is good!
You should be a fit for the right level team.
Easily 4.5, possibly up to 5.0-5.5 depending on matchplay execution, mental toughness, and the ability to win big points that is hard to define. And, it looks like you are still improving.
Anything less than 4.5 is quite ridiculous. 4.0's and 3.5's look nothing like this. People throwing those numbers around simply don't know what they're looking at.
wow-this is like watching myself in high school...we have very similar strokes...all extremely similar except serve. i hit with a lot more spin, heavy kicker and heavy slice.
your game looks good man, show us some match play so we can see some 2nd serves and how you perform under pressure...you have a ton of potential, D2 probably, wouldn't say D1 here in the US though.
try to work hard on the backhand volley...it looks like something that could be picked on...other than that and working even more on footwork-you're doing great!
I agree with canuck. Easily 4.5+
Also wanted add. I think you'll have no problem getting a scholarship. Good luck and kudos on wanting to be a student athlete.
very good. u are good as u are but i would suggest being less stiff if u wanna reach world pros level. then again who knows
Thanks for the feedback.
Heres a video of matchplay against a player that is ranked number 3 in all of Canada.
I lost 6-4. The video recorder battery died so this is some of the set.
match play video says you're born in 2993
I know, my coach made a typo haha.
Just as I suspected from the first video, I was going to say you'll have a hard time hitting balls back when it's hit hard and fast and it looked like that in the 2nd video of you playing the match.
Really need to smooth out that hitch and if you do, your footwork is pretty good so you'll improve a lot.
I can't say about the NTRP... I think you're 6.0 since I've seen a lot of older players in the 40-50's say that they are 5.5 but are no where near your level.
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Umm try starting at weak 5.0
5.5 is professional coaching in the freaking Pro League
Your shots aren't bad -- but your form is...interesting.
Your forehand uses a lot of elbow, and although that applies a lot of topspin and power, it can cause injuries. You're kinetic chain uses very little body and more elbow. Be careful with that form. The reason I don't want you to change it is because you're used to it, and changing it now from all those years of muscle memory is only going to make you worse.
Your backhand's a 50/50. Some are really loopy over the net, others are close to it but powerful. However, they're deep, and that's good. You use the "first form" of the two-handed backhand.
Basically the "first form" is a closed stance which provides more power but less reach compared to the "new form" which is open stance for more reach but less power and more topspin. I recommend keeping the closed, and use slices for far shots.
Don't give listen to what some of these guys are saying. Seems like most don't know what they are talking about. You have nice strokes, seems like you hit a pretty nice heavy rally ball, pretty good movement and have more than decent serve. A scholarship should be doable. Where, etc - will depend on your actual rankings and results of course, but you have the tools for sure.
And I love the guys out here saying you would just be a 4.0 etc...
Don't worry about people saying you have some "funky or interesting" strokes or whatever. And please don't take any advice from any of these "message board coaches" out here. I'm on court with top D1 players most everyday and you wouldn't look out of place at all. It's all about match results. Keep at it and good luck.
4.0 ?? Could maybe compete at 4.5 depending on match results ???
Bwhahaha and then bwhahaha again, some people on this forum are delusional.
I compete with 5.0/5.5
The guy in my matchplay is top 5 in Canada.
Technique isn't everything, and that was the point of my matchplay video.
Which was my point in the first place. Anybody placing a 4.x rating on you is delusional.
I can't hit a volley or backhand that good but i can hit a forehand like that. I got another 4 years to practice. 4.5 NTRP
who were you hitting against?
This is an oldie but IMO guys saying 4.0 are nutz.
That is 6.0 type play.
what is this up/down/up thing before you hit the fh lol...
good stuff though.
Impressive in the first video and even more so in the match play under pressure.
what did u mean by "the guy is Nr 5 in Canada?"
usually the guys who are at the top of the ranking in a country are on the ATP tour ???
i think your strokes are quite fast and flat, but having watched the matchplay video u do have room for improvement (serve for example)
Im sure he meant 3rd ranked junior. Ranoic has got to be the number 1 ranked player in all of Canada and these guys are not even close.
I dont see why you wont be able to get on a tennis team. A full scholarship (in the US) anyway is very unlikely. A partial at a scholarship at a lower division is very doable.
Obviously you already know alot of guys dont like your forehand technique. But i didnt see where it really caused to problems. If you're looking for a place to improve id like to see you use more legs to body energy to explode through your shots. Right now i see alot of arm work being done.
How tall are you. you look fairly short in the video but i couldnt tell for sure. I guessed about 5'9?
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