Discussion in 'Racquets' started by TennisMaverick, Oct 22, 2011.
jackie---there is no need for that. u and agent citrus should play doubles together.
The review of the Orgamix V1 MP really has me interested. Too bad it's brown. But I can definitely see a demo in my future.
And the review from here seems quite favorable. My only concern is the light weight, but it sounds very favorable.
Actually, it's espresso.
I can't recall such a high score for any other racquet in its class.
Jack, may I ask the purpose of writing ur comment and please describe how it contributes to this thread?
as you've mentioned before, everyone is entitled to their opinions. if we don't agree, we should just ignore their opinion.
besides why talk negatively when someone has been banned? this gives the other person no chance to respond. no fun in that, right?
Someone mentioned this thread being "dead" and I explained why. I just answered the posters question.
I think you're creating an alternate reality, Jackson. I'm looking for the poster's question you "just answered" and I see no such thing.
Icarus did not ask a question as such, but he raised something that perplexed him and the explanation given was reasonable.
The reality is that 'the banned one' has gotten around the ban by talking through proxies so people need to address this fact.
No, he didn't "ask a question as such". He didn't ask a question at all. Neither was he "perplexed" nor, for that matter, nonplussed, baffled, befuddled, bewildered or otherwise bemused. No "explanation" was necessary nor was it intended. Rather, you guys are just building platforms from which to attack a long banned poster. Next time you post, do a better job of choosing your words so you don't have to keep going back and explain your childish snipes.
I'm not going to pretend that the integrity of the forum is in peril because coolblue posts, "Here's what so-and-so said about the new Becker racquet".
Time to grow up, boys.
He described it as unfortunate without further explanation.
The 'banned one' suffered a self-imposed misfortune.
And now he employs his friends to circumvent his misfortune.
Its not my forum, but it should be pointed out to those too immature to acknowledge the source of his misfortune.
dParis, we should just stop replying to these folks. Some folks are just instigators and adds no value to threads.
Volkl users sure are a touchy bunch, aren't they?
So got my back up racquet since i was breaking string to frequently and my elbow/shoulder is getting better. I chose a Volkl X10 325 since i missed that over 12oz players spec. Strung with pacific bull gut at a tension of 48lbs. Biting power,great comfort and super control with all the spin your strokes can muster. Good power on my serve ,super placement and effortless kick serves. For elbow sufferers the stability of this frame is superb and all in a easy swing weight WITH NO BAD VIBES reaching your arm. Great players stick and once again Volkl has knocked it out of the park. Now if i can get a doubles match starring jackie and agent citrus against bartelbaby and torres. You get my drift ,or am I'm i being obtuse.
LONDON - X10 325 comparison
For those that need a comparison heres the 411 based on a 53 year old player with elbow/shoulder issues 4.5 player who hits hard with a flat/roll type swing.my london has a attiva grip lead tape at 5/7 and in the handle i string at 53m 50 c with gut or a good multi with over grip and dampener 12oz. my newly acquired X10 325 is strung with pacific bull fibre gut at 48lbs.
spin--slight edge to london
sweet spot--tie,both large
with my elbow/shoulder feeling better its nice to have a back up racquet(string breaker) now.--notes--x10 strings very tight and might be a string breaker and the frame itself is somewhat firm. Love the heft of a 12oz stick thats easy to swing. going to change the grip also.
I agree, VB, that the X-325 has the edge in every category that really matters to me, and that says a lot because the London weighted similarly is a phenomenal frame. I, like you, prefer around a 12oz. frame that swings easily and is very precise and stable. I decided to give the IG Prestige MP a go because it's just as stable, imo, and swings a little easier for me, but this X-325 is still on my radar, along with a few others if it doesn't work out, and of course, the Londons are still in the bag and not going anywhere, at least not yet.
Just strung my pb10 mid 46m/43c full poly and I'm liking it. I'll try 40/37 next as recommended. I know one of the tw testers was running 35 lbs with their pb10s and liking it so I'll try that after.
Anybody here with the x10 stringing at low tensions with full poly? Maybe 35lbs or lower? Currently x1 50 m/ iontec 48 c. Just okay setup for me....
I'd be interested to hear about your experience with the low tension poly. I currently have my X10 325 at 40/38 with NRG2 and it's very comfortable for me but still lacks feel. For my next string job, I'll probably go with a full poly at 35/33 to see how it plays.
Last night I played for the first time with my Becker Legend with Black Code 18 at 35/33 (previously strung at 55 with a multi). Comfortable, fabulous feel and very good spin generation. For me it definitely performs better with low tension poly than a multi at mid-range tension. This setup makes the Legend the "spinniest" of my three rackets.
My PB10 Mid is strung at 33/30 wit Black Code 18 so as you can see I have a preference for low tension poly.
Well...an hour after i made my post, I went out to hit and lo and behold, when I took out my x10, the x1 string had broken in my bag. Talk about wishful thinking.
I think I'll try 35/33 as per your suggestion. I'm out of msv focus hex so I'll use cyclone in the meantime...
I to am going to go lower tension on my X10 325. Have 48lbs. now with gut and with the stiffer hoop im going to try a 50/50 string job at 47/44 when my current string breaks(with a multi this time).
Currently running a variety of setups between my 10's as I have no clear fave as yet. I have been dropping the tension of slowly and I have found 52lb for a Savage/PSGD hybrid & 50/48 full Alu set up the sweet spot so far.
I've got natural gut at 54/51 and it feels tight. Seems crazy but this frame just feels so tight unless it is strung VERY low.
back from cali/arz.vacation-beautiful part of the usa. string lower and do the 50/50 stringing pattern. this frame loves lower tensions with no loss of control.
I got a good 20+ hours out of that low-tension gut stringjob, which shocked me. It was a loose cannon to be sure, but if I made myself hit with long, languid, fluid strokes it played pretty sweet. Actually, being forced to hit this way helped improve my one-hander. Great for serving!!! Volleys and returns not so much. Almost unplayable for doubles, but more than passable as a singles setup, and good for hitting practice.
Am now using Mamba multifibre @ 55/52 on a DW stringer. Love it! Really precise directional control, and fabulous for running groundstrokes and reflex volleys. Does everything very, very well. I'm sure I sound like a broken record, but what impresses me most about this racket is its stability. I'm able to return big serves and accurately hit hail mary shots that I am unable to hit with any other racket. Serves great to boot, which I was worried about when I shifted away from low-tension gut.
I'll likely given gut mains/poly crosses a go at some point in the future, but I have trouble imagining any arm-friendly setup playing better in this great racket than these current strings.
TM's advice is spot on. If you want to soften the string bed on your ox10 do the 50/50 string pattern drop and the crosses 2-4lbs less than the mains. iso speed axon multi feels really good in this frame btw.did mine at 49m-46c and really feels great.
Tried the demo for this racket along with the vcore line. Real nice racket to hit with. The demo racket from tw comes with a poly and it's great. Definitely recommend others to try it.
Yonex are making better racquets in that weight class, see other threads for details.
Lol, bartelbly, what are you, the Yonex TM?
Yonex is the new Volkl, and I've a yen for them!
Yonex and Volkl are the only companies to produce rackets I've really liked. It's a win - win
Bartelby is the TT reincarnation of Buckethead.
I would never have heard of that musician if it weren't for Buckethead, but I can't say I'm enamoured.
Been playing with the x10 for a couple of weeks......after a happy time with my dnx10 mids and a short daliance with the Yonex 89t Im back with volkl again and have been playing well with my c10 pros, which feel like like the big brother of the dnx10mid i was using last year, much closer in feel than the Melbourne or Legend.
My x10 has been modded with 9g at 10/12/2 and the same at the top of the handle. Weighs in around 356g/5pts hl and 360ish SW.
I never really picked up the x10 thinking its mutedness would remind me of the pb10mid which was good but never in the same league as my crisper dnx mids imo. Anyways got the chance to pick one of these up, strung with rpm 1.30, quite a tight stringbed as many have said but straight from the off had no problems, the racket performed excellently in all areas. Directional control from the stiff hoop reminded me of my 95d, manouverabilty was good but not c10 good with its thin beam, so I struggled slightly on reaction volleys being more static at the net in doubles, however coming onto the ball at the net, this thing performed better than anything Ive used before, Im never that consistently clinical.
My c10's are heavier yet swing easier, I feel like I caress the ball with the c10, angles, short, deep, it has a diversity of shot which can sometimes get me into trouble, whereas the x10 says hit me......
Ive just restrung with tour bite at 50lbs and going out today. Ive noticed reading the thread about players complaints of string sensitivity but I havent found this with a full poly set up.
Anyone still using this stick?
Sorry to be dense, Meaghan, but are you asking about the X10 or the C10? I know it's an OX10-325 thread, but you were talking about both in your post.
If you're asking about the C10, my wife has been using two since 2003 or so...and she'll hit the half century mark in January.
She's been tempted to try / move to something a bit lighter, but she's still mighty comfortable with the C10 Pro.
Funny as I have never found a Yonex I can play with. Have tried RD7, RDIS 200 and now Xi100 and none of them play as well as what I usually play with. Not sure if the head shape agrees with me.
He's got both and by the tone of the post struggling to decide which one he likes best!
I think you know this already, but on that ball that your opponent hits short and you want to step in and hit the gas, the C-10 Pro will still need to be caressed and will probably not produce the quality of ball that you're expecting to blast through your opponent. I'm sure there are some who could hit through anyone with a C-10 Pro, but I couldn't. I learned the hard way, losing a very frustrating match to a classic pusher with the C-10, hitting better quality shots all night, but without having given him a bit of trouble when the ash settled. The C-10 Pro is an amazing frame, but I personally, and this could just be me, hit a better quality ball with my modified Londons than the C-10. The evidence is in the other court, but that's just me.
My dilemma is that my frames are discontinued, and who knows how this whole Volkl/BB debacle will turn out. I don't know that I have much faith in BB offerings and availability in the future, so I might have to look at Volkl's offerings, and besides the C-10 Pro, I would probably only consider the X-10 325. I hit an "older" demo and loved it, but I also hit a newer X-10 and didn't like it as much. I think for me that if I could adjust to the newer "feel" and response of the frame enough for it to flex out a bit, I would be very happy---all the while knowing that I would prefer a more traditional offering, with a sprinkling of modern technology. I think you're going to get along best with the X-10 in the long run. Best of luck.
Im referring to the x10.....the c10 was me looking for a dnx10mid in a 98" form, trying the melbourne first, liking it but it wasnt as good as the Legend and then the c10 pro, which is wher I am untill organix turned up (a year late!)
Thing is P1 the c10's are leaded up around 370g with 10g in the upper hoop, so no I havent found any problems hitting thro opponents, I think it boils down to a feel thing.
Saying all that just got back from a good hit. My partner didnt play his usual best but I certainly did.......I asked in another thread whether it was a lethal combination the x10 and Tour Bite @ 50lbs and well bloody hell yes, angles easier like the c10, directional control like the vc95, Head like grip, Volkl (ish) feel, volleys real well and serves a dream, after that the c10 may have bitten the dust, that combination of racket, string, mods and balance is a step above anything else Ive played with.......
From what I understand, the C-10 is best utilized as a platform frame to get to 12.5-13oz.+ At that weight, many say it is a real weapon. It sits at my upper threshold stock, so I was forced to hit it at that weight/balance, without being able to "feel" the hoop weight that I like.
Back to the X-10, I compared it to the Melbourne, and surprisingly, I just couldn't bond with the Melly and much preferred the X-10, but the demo was flexed out a bit to my liking. A full multi at low tension and a few grams of hoop weight to get the balance to 5-6 pts. hl, and I might would have something in the X-10. I might hold out for a bit to see what, if anything, BB might offer, but as I stated earlier, the X-10 is really my only legitimate option with Volkl at this point. Enjoy your X-10, as the verdict seems rather clear!
P1 its good to hear from u again--loving my x10 325 strung with a very soft vollmer bbecker string at 44lbs--plays like a dream at that tension.
I loved the racket except I had a noticeable lack of power on the serve, otherwise it would be my racket because it is amazing everywhere else.
Well, I must give credit to Meaghan for hooking me up to his setup, AGAIN.
I have a few pb10 mids which was just playing ok until I used his mod (lead at 10/12/2) which elevated the performance of the racquets. 360g.
I had just about given up on the x10, trying low tension poly as well as guy/poly. It was ok but it just didn't play as well as the modded pb10s. So when i read his post, I said why not try it. 6g at 10/12/2 and some lead at handle. 360g. Gut/poly 51/46.
What a difference! My first serves were hitting the fence on one bounce without too much effort. Couldn't consistently do that with the pb10s. Topspin second serves had more height and consistency. 2hbh felt better. Overall, I felt I could play more aggressively with this racquet and my game has improved because of this mod. Might be looking for a 2nd x10 soon.
Thanks again, Meaghan!
I think the modification is less important on the x10 than on the pb10 mid however if you are used to that SW then its a must. Still very happy with this stick, it gives me much more options than the mid especially defensively. Good stuff goosie let us know how it goes.
comfort just to good to pass up
the stability and ease of which it swings allows you to feel confident hitting an shot. i have the sorbathane grip system on mine with a attiva x s pallet with over grip and dampener right at 13oz's. great control and when strung with gut at 42lbs u get that cupping action. great great racquet that VOLKL X10 325
Santa Claus has just come early. Hit for the first time yesterday with my new x 10 325 and all I can say is wow. Switched from Babolat PDR and all early indications are positive. have the x10 strung at 52lbs with cyclone in the mains and Wilson Sensation in the crosses. This setup was recommended by the shop. All my groundstrokes seem better, volleys noticably so, the only thing I've yet to do is serve but that was fine during the demo. Regarding the grip it seems a little hard to get around to a semi western but I'm sure given time I'll adapt. All in all I'm delighted, the feel and solidity of the racket is incredible.
A very happy Volkl Virgin.
Just an FYI. Both my X10s cracked at the throat and became unplayable. Volkl took so long dealing with it that I ended up switching to Head.
Bummer. Anyone else experience this? I was going to give this frame a try but this is certainly discouraging...
first i have heard--no problems with mine
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