Origin/Velocity

Did you tried HDX/Cream or not?
Better spin/control than V/Cream?
No ... by the time I tried hdx I had dropped poly including cream (which is ironic because poly in hdx). I found fb hdx a little more spin than fb v, and hdx/v a little more spin then origin/v. Based on that, I would expect hdx/cream to also have more spin than v/cream ... but you never know for sure how two strings work with each other until you try it.

You have asked a lot of questions at this point. What strings have you tried at this point?
 
You have asked a lot of questions at this point. What strings have you tried at this point?
Many!!
Actually I'm playing and loving VS Touch 16/Max Power Rough 17 but it will break pretty soon only after 3hours of play... And it is still a little bit too stiff...
So I'm still searching a great arm friendly combo with good spin and control..... Like so many other players here...

Next I will try (already ordered) :

Velocity/Cream
Tecnifibre Multifeel (2018 version)/Cream
Maybe HDX/Cream or fb HDX...

Will see what happen...
 
Many!!
Actually I'm playing and loving VS Touch 16/Max Power Rough 17 but it will break pretty soon only after 3hours of play... And it is still a little bit too stiff...
So I'm still searching a great arm friendly combo with good spin and control..... Like so many other players here...

Next I will try (already ordered) :

Velocity/Cream
Tecnifibre Multifeel (2018 version)/Cream
Maybe HDX/Cream or fb HDX...

Will see what happen...
If you break gut in 3 hours you should be on the ATP tour, and are wasting your time with nylon strings. Do you have your own stringing machine?
 
If you break gut in 3 hours you should be on the ATP tour, and are wasting your time with nylon strings. Do you have your own stringing machine?
It is not broken but I can see one main starting to fray... And yes after only 3hours on clay...
But maybe it will last much longer!? I hope so!!!
Don't have stringing machine.
 
It is not broken but I can see one main starting to fray... And yes after only 3hours on clay...
But maybe it will last much longer!? I hope so!!!
Don't have stringing machine.
If you like gut/poly then I'd suggest Babolat tonic for longevity or Klip legend for value. Both will likely cost the same per hour on court. VS is overpriced.
If you want a softer poly than Max Power, try either 18g or swapping to Cream. I've been playing some with Legend/Cream and its quite a soft experience. Not O/V soft, but pretty good for a poly.

I used to get 15-20h easily with Tonic/4G in the old days of healthy tendons. It was my most durable setup.
 
If you like gut/poly then I'd suggest Babolat tonic for longevity or Klip legend for value. Both will likely cost the same per hour on court. VS is overpriced.
If you want a softer poly than Max Power, try either 18g or swapping to Cream. I've been playing some with Legend/Cream and its quite a soft experience. Not O/V soft, but pretty good for a poly.

I used to get 15-20h easily with Tonic/4G in the old days of healthy tendons. It was my most durable setup.
Yes I plan to try Tonic longevity/Cream :)
 
Strings after 30 minute of playing freshly strung Origin/Velocity. Velocity is a slick string, but after a few hits it seems to get kind of textured or sticky, picking up the yellow fuss from the balls. Anyone experiencing this ?



Same experience with the black V 16g crosses. Does the Natural V do this as well?
 
Same experience with the black V 16g crosses. Does the Natural V do this as well?
Mine (o natural 16/v natural 16) @55/52 never move that much ... even at 20 hours. I get some movement outside the middle 8 mains, but not bad. I get more movement with fb v ... but nothing like your pic. I changed fb v from fb 52 to 54/52 and it helped. I don’t mind my level of string straightening... but yours would drive me nuts. Does fb poly stay straight for you?

What tension was your o/v strung at?
 
Guys I'll be going with a Origin 1.25mm/Cream 1.23mm setup. Any suggestions on tension differential? Racquet os Diadem Elevate which has one of the most wide main strings pattern I have ever seen.
 
Guys I'll be going with a Origin 1.25mm/Cream 1.23mm setup. Any suggestions on tension differential? Racquet os Diadem Elevate which has one of the most wide main strings pattern I have ever seen.
My only feedback is origin 16 is POWERFUL ... fb o 16 red @55 was a rocket launcher ... but o/v @55/52 about right. So if I was trying o 16/cream 1.28 @55/50 probably. Sorry ... never played 17g origin or 1.23 cream.
 
My only feedback is origin 16 is POWERFUL ... fb o 16 red @55 was a rocket launcher ... but o/v @55/52 about right. So if I was trying o 16/cream 1.28 @55/50 probably. Sorry ... never played 17g origin or 1.23 cream.
I don't think O/C is a good choice, personally... No spin and too much power... V/C is not too powerful, great control and spin.
 
I don't think O/C is a good choice, personally... No spin and too much power... V/C is not too powerful, great control and spin.
Did you play it ... I haven't. FB origin 16 red @55 was very little spin for me, but o/v @55/52 tamed the power, and is actually good spin (more than fb v). Seems cream would do the same adding spin to origin and taming it, but you never know until you try it. But yes ... v/c was great spin for me, more than o/v. I just remember an elbow twinge after some hours ... didn't stick with it. Origin is just about as arm friendly as v, probably best tension maintenance other than gut, doesn't fray, nice feel/sound ... checks off a lot of boxes.
 
Did you play it ... I haven't. FB origin 16 red @55 was very little spin for me, but o/v @55/52 tamed the power, and is actually good spin (more than fb v). Seems cream would do the same adding spin to origin and taming it, but you never know until you try it. But yes ... v/c was great spin for me, more than o/v. I just remember an elbow twinge after some hours ... didn't stick with it. Origin is just about as arm friendly as v, probably best tension maintenance other than gut, doesn't fray, nice feel/sound ... checks off a lot of boxes.
Don't tried it... But I'm confident about my thinking. :p
Let them try it!! ;)
 
What's up @ByeByePoly ?

After snapping the Cream / HDX Tour twice I went back to my tried and true Cyclone Tour 1.30mm.

I remember why I started the Cream / HDX Tour to start with. It was a poly / poly play test of FireWire 1.30mm / Head Hawk 1.25mm. That setup gave my elbow a reason to go softer and I was pleasantly surprised at how soft Cream / HDX Tour or Cream / Velocity actually was.

Using the setup of multi / poly snaps much quicker than the poly/ multi and that only last around 15 to 20 hours.

Cyclone Tour 1.30mm has been my go to string for 4+ years now and it lasts me a month before snapping . The fact I can hit with three or four times a week without any pain and can take the 55 to 60 inches of rain we get annually makes it an easy choice. The fact is costs me less than $7 a frame is a bonus.
Are you saying Cyclone Tour doesn't go dead on you or you simply snap it before it can?
 
Are you saying Cyclone Tour doesn't go dead on you or you simply snap it before it can?
It goes dead about the same time it snaps for me and several 4.0 / 4.5 male clients who it. Sometimes it snaps, other times I cut it out and restring it. Same for multiple clients. Several guys play till it breaks, and one of the "play till it breaks" guy goes through 3 frames a month.

Been using it for 5+ years now At less than $7 per frame, it is a great string.
 
Been experimenting with Velocity crosses and a number of different mains, it’s almost like sweep the shop and any qualify multi or syn gut is going in the mains.

RF97 NXT/ Velocity 55/52
PS 97 NXT/ Velocity 57/54
6.1 95 18x20. Gosen Micro/ Velocity 54/50

It’s all playing well and a much needed break for the arm after a long season with Gut/poly and Poly/Poly. Arm feels fresh and zero pain or stiffness in the elbow.
 
Thanks for clarifying; I just asked as it seemed counterintuitive that the heavier, presumably more powerful model wouldn't need to be strung more tightly.
The RF97 can tend to feel really stiff when the tension gets too high for me. Tried Velocity/ Weiss Cannon at 55/52 and it felt like a board. Have played poly in the RF97 from 50-52 for awhile and have played the PS97 at 52-54.
 
The RF97 can tend to feel really stiff when the tension gets too high for me. Tried Velocity/ Weiss Cannon at 55/52 and it felt like a board. Have played poly in the RF97 from 50-52 for awhile and have played the PS97 at 52-54.
Just need to read RF97 to feel pain in the arm!!
 
Interested in trying Origin mains after the success I have had with other multi/syn gut strings and Velocity cross. The set up I put in the 6.1 95 18x20 Gosen/ Velocity played excellent. I’m thinking Origin would be a step up in performance from there.
 
Interested in trying Origin mains after the success I have had with other multi/syn gut strings and Velocity cross. The set up I put in the 6.1 95 18x20 Gosen/ Velocity played excellent. I’m thinking Origin would be a step up in performance from there.
I think you are going about it right sticking with a cross, and testing different mains avoiding the infinite hybrid rabbit hole. For those of us who have to avoid all poly, velocity is a decent alternative. I found both origin/v and hdx/v to play great, and both of those mains great on tension maintenance. I keep expecting someone to try X-One/V since X-One is so popular (I have never hit with it).
 
O/C better than O/V on clay?
@Dartagnan64
I would suspect O/C would be better on clay although i've not used it. I've used O/V and L/C on clay and L/C is better since the clay takes off V coating reasonably quickly. O/V is a really good hard court combo but I'd go with poly crosses on clay. O/C would be a really good combo which I might use in my POG 107.
 
Strange that you still not tried it!! :p
Hard time getting Cream so I've been mostly using my limited supply on Legend/Cream in my 93P. The POG 107 hasn't been used much lately and has some fresh O/V in it I don't want to cut out. Next stringing if I've got Cream around.

So many strings, so little time. And strings last far longer in my 93P than they ever did in my PD or Blade. 18x20 in a flexible frame makes a huge difference.
 
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