Did you tried HDX/Cream or not?My guess is hdx/cream would be really good spin for those without sensitive elbows.
Did you tried HDX/Cream or not?
Better spin/control than V/Cream?
Many!!You have asked a lot of questions at this point. What strings have you tried at this point?
Many!!
Actually I'm playing and loving VS Touch 16/Max Power Rough 17 but it will break pretty soon only after 3hours of play... And it is still a little bit too stiff...
So I'm still searching a great arm friendly combo with good spin and control..... Like so many other players here...
Next I will try (already ordered) :
Velocity/Cream
Tecnifibre Multifeel (2018 version)/Cream
Maybe HDX/Cream or fb HDX...
Will see what happen...
It is not broken but I can see one main starting to fray... And yes after only 3hours on clay...If you break gut in 3 hours you should be on the ATP tour, and are wasting your time with nylon strings. Do you have your own stringing machine?
It is not broken but I can see one main starting to fray... And yes after only 3hours on clay...
But maybe it will last much longer!? I hope so!!!
Don't have stringing machine.
Yes I plan to try Tonic longevity/CreamIf you like gut/poly then I'd suggest Babolat tonic for longevity or Klip legend for value. Both will likely cost the same per hour on court. VS is overpriced.
If you want a softer poly than Max Power, try either 18g or swapping to Cream. I've been playing some with Legend/Cream and its quite a soft experience. Not O/V soft, but pretty good for a poly.
I used to get 15-20h easily with Tonic/4G in the old days of healthy tendons. It was my most durable setup.
Yes I plan to try Tonic longevity/Cream![]()
Same experience with the black V 16g crosses. Does the Natural V do this as well?Strings after 30 minute of playing freshly strung Origin/Velocity. Velocity is a slick string, but after a few hits it seems to get kind of textured or sticky, picking up the yellow fuss from the balls. Anyone experiencing this ?
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Same experience with the black V 16g crosses. Does the Natural V do this as well?
Same experience with the black V 16g crosses. Does the Natural V do this as well?
Same experience with the black V 16g crosses. Does the Natural V do this as well?
Guys I'll be going with a Origin 1.25mm/Cream 1.23mm setup. Any suggestions on tension differential? Racquet os Diadem Elevate which has one of the most wide main strings pattern I have ever seen.
I don't think O/C is a good choice, personally... No spin and too much power... V/C is not too powerful, great control and spin.My only feedback is origin 16 is POWERFUL ... fb o 16 red @55 was a rocket launcher ... but o/v @55/52 about right. So if I was trying o 16/cream 1.28 @55/50 probably. Sorry ... never played 17g origin or 1.23 cream.
I don't think O/C is a good choice, personally... No spin and too much power... V/C is not too powerful, great control and spin.
Don't tried it... But I'm confident about my thinking.Did you play it ... I haven't. FB origin 16 red @55 was very little spin for me, but o/v @55/52 tamed the power, and is actually good spin (more than fb v). Seems cream would do the same adding spin to origin and taming it, but you never know until you try it. But yes ... v/c was great spin for me, more than o/v. I just remember an elbow twinge after some hours ... didn't stick with it. Origin is just about as arm friendly as v, probably best tension maintenance other than gut, doesn't fray, nice feel/sound ... checks off a lot of boxes.
Guys I'll be going with a Origin 1.25mm/Cream 1.23mm setup. Any suggestions on tension differential? Racquet os Diadem Elevate which has one of the most wide main strings pattern I have ever seen.
@Dartagnan64 do you play with Phantom Pro 100 or Phantom 100?
What big differences between Pro 100 and 100? Where is the best spin and control?I play with Phantom 100 and a Phantom Pro 93P. And when the mood suits me, a POG 107. The 93P is what I use mostly.
Are you saying Cyclone Tour doesn't go dead on you or you simply snap it before it can?What's up @ByeByePoly ?
After snapping the Cream / HDX Tour twice I went back to my tried and true Cyclone Tour 1.30mm.
I remember why I started the Cream / HDX Tour to start with. It was a poly / poly play test of FireWire 1.30mm / Head Hawk 1.25mm. That setup gave my elbow a reason to go softer and I was pleasantly surprised at how soft Cream / HDX Tour or Cream / Velocity actually was.
Using the setup of multi / poly snaps much quicker than the poly/ multi and that only last around 15 to 20 hours.
Cyclone Tour 1.30mm has been my go to string for 4+ years now and it lasts me a month before snapping . The fact I can hit with three or four times a week without any pain and can take the 55 to 60 inches of rain we get annually makes it an easy choice. The fact is costs me less than $7 a frame is a bonus.
Are you saying Cyclone Tour doesn't go dead on you or you simply snap it before it can?
What big differences between Pro 100 and 100? Where is the best spin and control?
Maybe because it is a more powerful frame?...Any reason for stringing PS97s tighter than RF97s? Just curious.
Any reason for stringing PS97s tighter than RF97s? Just curious.
Thanks for clarifying; I just asked as it seemed counterintuitive that the heavier, presumably more powerful model wouldn't need to be strung more tightly.
Just need to read RF97 to feel pain in the arm!!The RF97 can tend to feel really stiff when the tension gets too high for me. Tried Velocity/ Weiss Cannon at 55/52 and it felt like a board. Have played poly in the RF97 from 50-52 for awhile and have played the PS97 at 52-54.
Just need to read RF97 to feel pain in the arm!!
Interested in trying Origin mains after the success I have had with other multi/syn gut strings and Velocity cross. The set up I put in the 6.1 95 18x20 Gosen/ Velocity played excellent. I’m thinking Origin would be a step up in performance from there.
Ive been thinking that after running out of NXT, X-one may be the one to try. Maybe a little more longevity than NXT.
I love it when I plant a string seed and it produces. This use to work with @Traffic until he caught on.![]()
Does Origin 17 is so slick as TWU mention it?
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/stringfrictiontool.php
O/C better than O/V on clay?
@Dartagnan64
Strange that you still not tried it!!O/C would be a really good combo which I might use in my POG 107.
Strange that you still not tried it!!![]()
@ByeByePoly
Is there a reason you play full bed V instead of O/V?
What are the main differences?
I am guessing:
Power: O/V > V
Control: V > O/V
Comfort ?
I could use a "tad" power boost to my frame (i play with control frame) so wondering O/V maintains similar control characteristics and not a rocket launcher but provides a little bit more power boost..
thanks!
@ByeByePoly
Is there a reason you play full bed V instead of O/V?
What are the main differences?
I am guessing:
Power: O/V > V
Control: V > O/V
Comfort ?
I could use a "tad" power boost to my frame (i play with control frame) so wondering O/V maintains similar control characteristics and not a rocket launcher but provides a little bit more power boost..
thanks!
Thanks! Very helpful.Yes ... O/V (@Dartagnan64 's great find) is a great option if you want to bump up power ... but still play fb V adjacent. I found O/V 55/52 a power boost over fb V @52 ... but still controllable. FB Origin @55 was too powerful, would have gone to @58 ... but I couldn't get good spin out of fb Origin. O/V tames the O and brings spin to pretty much fb v level ... and some days seemed like o/v had a little more. O is a little muted ... but not as much as V, so you will feel more. I found v more arm friendly of the two .. but obviously both arm friendly. What I found was a slower swing was noticeably easier on my post TE elbow with fb V than o/v ... but on full cuts both felt great. Origin is a great feeling string to me on full swings.
If you want fb v adjacent, a power boost but also more crisp less mute ... try @Znak 's AK Pro CX/V. Also played great ... crisper ... my 1hbh drop shot was lethal.