Oudin struggling with expectations

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/Melanie-Oudin-struggles-with-expectations-heading-into-US-Open-082210

Oudin struggling with expectations
Updated Aug 26, 2010 7:18 PM ET


Melanie Oudin has been working on lowering expectations of herself all season long. And given her lack of positive results over the past four months, she has done a darn good job of convincing fans that her inspiring run to the 2009 U.S. Open quarterfinals won't be repeated when the tournament kicks off Aug. 30.

The 18-year-old from Georgia has the potential to reach a Grand Slam final eight again, but the terrific fight and composure she displayed last summer hasn't been there this season, replaced instead by a lack of belief and little desire to be considered a player who needs to be feared.

There have been few moments this year when Oudin has tried to convince anyone that she can better her U.S. Open performance of last year, when she shocked three notable Russians in a row — Elena Dementieva, Maria Sharapova and Nadia Petrova — before falling to eventual runner-up Caroline Wozniacki, thrusting herself into the spotlight of American tennis along the way.

She won't go so far to say the result was a one-off, but she believes there are tons of folks who think she’s already an established elite player. And she can't stomach that opinion.

"When I got to New York last year, no one knew me and only a few people in Atlanta did, and now a lot of people know me,” she said. “And in these tournaments in the States, people expect me to win all the time. I'm like, 'Guys, I'm not going to just because of the U.S. Open.'"

Oudin did show flashes of her potential during the winter and early spring, reaching the semis of the Paris Indoors and the quarters in Charleston — two second-tier events that typically draw strong fields — but her results at the majors have been poor. She lost in the first round at the Australian and French Opens and made only the second round at Wimbledon. Most of the reason is her lack of maturity and her inability to toughen up in the face of expectations.

Every teenager who has an excellent Grand Slam run has had to deal with the resulting expectations to do it again. The great ones more than meet the expectation, while the not-so-great ones wilt. At this point, Oudin is acting more like the now-retired Nicole Vaidisova (who reached two Grand Slam semis and retired at 21) than she is Sharapova, who won Wimbledon at 17 and was able to follow that up with a dash to No. 1 and two more Grand Slam crowns.

“Everyone made such a big deal out of it,” Oudin said in frustration.

Oudin hasn't won consecutive matches since April and has just a 3-11 match record since the beginning of May. This summer on U.S. hard courts, she has been taken apart by Victoria Azarenka, Samantha Stosur, Elena Vesnina and Bethanie Mattek-Sands — a good group, but no better than the elite group of Russians she toppled at last year's U.S. Open. She also lost in the first round in New Haven this week to Dominika Cibulkova in her final tune-up to Flushing Meadows.

She has been so put out that at a tournament at Stanford in July, during her late-night win over Aleksandra Wozniak, she actually got angry at some fans who were tiring of her play.

"It's kind of annoying sometimes when people are like, 'Pull it together, Melanie,' and they yell at me kind of," she said. "Really, like you get down here and play. I know they mean it in a good way, like to say, 'C'mon, Melanie,' but you don't have to say 'Pull it together,' like, 'Get your energy up.' That's what some lady was telling me."

Though Oudin says she loves the U.S. Open, she almost seems to be dreading going to New York. At Wimbledon earlier this summer, she told a reporter who asked her about the U.S. Open that she was no longer discussing her 2009 performance and was surprised he didn't get the mental memo.

"I've been doing OK this year, not badly," she said. "I thought (the attention) would die down by now, but the fact the U.S. Open is coming again, it's, ‘Let's see if she can do it again,’ and I don't think it will be quiet at all for me."

By this point in the season, Oudin should have been able to get her head around her 2009 experience, meet the challenge and move on.

She did reach No. 31 in the rankings earlier this summer and has the tools to go further. She's fast and scrappy, features a forehand as a big weapon, volleys decently and isn’t a bad on-court thinker.

Her Fed Cup captain, Mary Joe Fernandez, said Oudin merely has hit a bump in the road.

“She's a really hard worker, and I have confidence in her, because every time she gets on court, she's trying to get better,” Fernandez said. “She's trying to get a better serve and be more aggressive. The tough thing for her is wanting to do more than she's capable of and trying to play bigger than what she has."

Oudin's serve, however, has been a wreck, and it's very attackable. Her backhand is consistent, but she needs to step into it more. And, at 5-foot-6, she is also having trouble contending with high kick serves. Plus, she's getting down on herself when losing and isn't gutting out matches like she did last year. Going into New Haven, she was 3-5 in three-set matches this year and 17-19 overall.

"People are saying it's sophomore year. I don't believe in (the sophomore slump)," she said. "It's not a slump. Yes, the first year in the tour is the freshest. No one knows who you are, and I really like playing under those circumstances, but since I'm an American and not that many Americans are playing that well, everyone looks at me by one tournament. I went from the total underdog to someone who is supposed to win every tournament. The expectations from me went from zero to 100."

What Oudin appears to be saying is, because there is little American depth behind the Williams sisters, she has been tagged with a Next Great One label. She hasn't been, but she has earned the One to Watch label, which shouldn't be a bad thing for someone who says she aspires to be a great player.

If she keeps thinking she's being overly scrutinized, she's going to exit New York before she can grab a Sharpie and write "Believe" on her tennis shoes again this year. As in 2009, she has to play from her gut. If she does, she has second-week possibilities. If she doesn't, she'll walk away from the event as just another in a long list of stressed-out teenagers.

“The first year is always the best because no one knows you, and they feel the pressure because last year I'm just some kid coming up and not thinking much of me. And now everyone takes me seriously and knows my game well,” she said. “I feel like the target on my back is a lot bigger this year, and no one wants to lose to me.”

So TT members, on the eve of the U.S. Open, what is the issue with Oudin? Is she a flash-in-the-pan? Yet another minor note in the annals of tennis history? Will she go for an all new coach? Or do you lean in the direction of Fernandez, with her "bump in the road" observation?
 
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bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
I'm sure she feels pressure, but other than immediately after last year's USO, I don't think a ton of expectations have really been put on her from the fans and press.

Yes, she had a nice run, but I think most knowledgeable observers understand that she got on a hot streak, got a wave of confidence, not that she necessarily has the game to go on those sorts of runs repeatedly. I mean, as she's had pretty mediocre results this year, I hardly see fans or commentators express any surprise.

That said, again, I'm sure she feels pressure simply because she wants to live up to what she previously achieved. I didn't expect her to be top 10, but she has sort of stagnated. Hopefully she can raise her game a notch or two.
 

quest01

Hall of Fame
She made it to the quarters last year and lost in the first round in every tournament leading up to this years open. Its like she only played well in last years open, she's crazily over-hyped. I want her to do well because she's an American but she could be bounced out in the first round and I wouldn't be surprised. She just isn't good enough to beat these players including myself, I could even beat her.
 

Roy125

Professional
She made it to the quarters last year and lost in the first round in every tournament leading up to this years open. Its like she only played well in last years open, she's crazily over-hyped. I want her to do well because she's an American but she could be bounced out in the first round and I wouldn't be surprised. She just isn't good enough to beat these players including myself, I could even beat her.

Hmm, what level are you?
 

thalivest

Banned
I dont know what to make of her exactly at this point. I dont think she will ever be a top 5 player or Slam Champion though, although for the sake of the future of American tennis I hope she proves me wrong.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
"She did reach No. 31 in the rankings earlier this summer and has the tools to go further."

That remains to be seen. In my view 31 is higher then her "natural" ranking. I see her dropping way back from 31. Then again when C. Woziacki is #1 anything is possible.
 

thalivest

Banned
I do think she could reach higher than #31 someday but she isnt even good enough right now to be ranked that high.

Her US Open performance I dont want to say was overhyped as beating Dementieva, Sharapova, and Petrova all to reach the quarters is impressive. Really though the only match she wasnt sort of lucky in was the Dementieva one. Maria played beyond horrendous and served something like 30 double faults didnt she, and still nearly won. And Petrova was killing her and should have won 6-1, 6-3 but of course then did what Petrova often does at that point. So if that is the tournament that shows what she is capable of even at her current absolute best, even that still isnt something that would materalize to even a quarterfinal showing at a slam to get drubbed often at all.
 

Annika

Semi-Pro
At first I enjoyed watching her play. But her fist pumps are a bit much. :shock: I would enjoy watching her play more if she did away with them. But who am I?
 

NLBwell

Legend
#31 in the world is pretty good for her. That would translate to getting into the 3rd round at the U.S. Open (round of 32). As far as natural tennis capability, 31 is an overachievment. However, she does have mental toughness, which is in short supply at the WTA these days, so it's possible she could spike up into the top 20 at some point. If she can be in the top 30 for an extended period of time, she should be very proud of herself.
 
I've seen Oudin play, and she is a gutsy, gritty counter puncher who can cover a lot of ground from left to right and will try to return everything, as long as it's in the stadium.

She still needs a lot of work on her serve, and she has to move beyond her love of hitting the ball hard and running everything down to creating points where her opponent shoulders more of the work load, by working with angles and location.
 

above bored

Semi-Pro
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/Melanie-Oudin-struggles-with-expectations-heading-into-US-Open-082210

So TT members, on the eve of the U.S. Open, what is the issue with Oudin? Is she a flash-in-the-pan? Yet another minor note in the annals of tennis history? Will she go for an all new coach? Or do you lean in the direction of Fernandez, with her "bump in the road" observation?
I sympathize with Oudin. Fans always have unreasonable expectations, because they are not aware of how competitive it is. She's a good player, but nothing about her game strikes me as special over many of the other women playing. She'll have a good career if healthy, but I don't expect her to do great things. There are many women on the tour who are just as good or better than her.
 
you could chalk all the upsets to one specific reason or another. Dementieva was probably the leader in matches played going into the tourney and her groundstrokes looked as though she was fatigued and not penetrating like they normally do. Sharapova was still nursing the injury, and Petrova is a head case as was mentioned, and not a great mover or consistent, made it to the rd she is comfortable at and found a way to lose. Oudin was not well known in the style of game she played, but after losing her match it was apparent that a little topspin on the bh side to get the ball over her shoulder does wonders to break her game down.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
She's a good player, but nothing about her game strikes me as special over many of the other women playing. She'll have a good career if healthy, but I don't expect her to do great things.

I tend to agree, and if true, her official supporters in the U.S. will need to accept the fact that their dreams for any significant, new American player to rise to the top may not come true for a very long time (beyond what remains of the Williams sisters' careers).
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
she's just not all that good really...

I'm going to agree with this. She isn't that good and the only reason she advanced so far was because of her draw. She ended up playing well above her normal level of play and ran into girls who are known headcases/chokers/or coming off injury like Masha. The real problem with this is the less knowledgeable fans of tennis see this and think she's incredible, it doesn't help that the clown lady from ESPN couldn't stop talking about her. I think the rest of us all knew that Melanie probably wouldn't continue to perform like she did at the USO.
 

Kaz00

Semi-Pro
I'm an american and I support her but I really do hope she gets knocked out 1st round so I don't have to watch her anymore.
 

Ledigs

Legend
I agree and she's very short compared to the other women players so his serve can't ever be that great. she's 5'6"
 

thalivest

Banned
I tend to agree, and if true, her official supporters in the U.S. will need to accept the fact that their dreams for any significant, new American player to rise to the top may not come true for a very long time (beyond what remains of the Williams sisters' careers).

And that is a scary thought. If the WTA or ATP does not have any presence amongst the elite once Serena, Venus, and Roddick are all gone (or faded out of the elite altogether with age, whichever comes first) there will be even less coverage of tennis for North American tennis fans than there is already is.
 

MsDeb

New User
ugh, i was attempting to watch her match today, but EVERY point she won she yelled 'Come On'. i knew she was a big offender, but this is the worst I have heard from her. i had to change the channel. annoying little twit.
 

LetsGoRoddick

Professional
ugh, i was attempting to watch her match today, but EVERY point she won she yelled 'Come On'. i knew she was a big offender, but this is the worst I have heard from her. i had to change the channel. annoying little twit.

Yes someone should tell her to shut up. I cant even stand the highlights.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Yes someone should tell her to shut up.

Not going to happen; when ESPN spots lable her "America's Sweetheart" (when did that election take place?), she can do no wrong. If Oudin did not have a target on her back at this USO due to the events of '09, such one-sided tennis PTB/media bias will certainly paint one on her.
 

Fedace

Banned
Not going to happen; when ESPN spots lable her "America's Sweetheart" (when did that election take place?), she can do no wrong. If Oudin did not have a target on her back at this USO due to the events of '09, such one-sided tennis PTB/media bias will certainly paint one on her.

she's not pretty enough to be a Sweetheart. She looks like a army girl that drives a tank.
 

Gaudio2004

Semi-Pro
She was definitely majorly assisted by luck to get to the QF's last year.

She has top 50 talent at max.

Beating Sharapova, Dementieva and Petrova in a matter of days is not luck. It's talent and skill. You are wrong, I think.

Oudin has won her first round match, now if she can win the next 2/3 matches, I think she'll be on fire.
 

Fedace

Banned
Beating Sharapova, Dementieva and Petrova in a matter of days is not luck. It's talent and skill. You are wrong, I think.

Oudin has won her first round match, now if she can win the next 2/3 matches, I think she'll be on fire.

she is talented, sure. but i don't think she is multiple grand slam material. She may win 1 if everything goes right. She is too short and doesn't have the big serve.
 

Gaudio2004

Semi-Pro
she is talented, sure. but i don't think she is multiple grand slam material. She may win 1 if everything goes right. She is too short and doesn't have the big serve.

Well, I agree with you, but Henin has won 5+ Grand Slams at being 1.67 metres tall, Oudin is 1.68 metres tall.. Neither have a big serve and Henin has destroyed just about every type of player out there in the women's tour.

Just give her time.
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
I'm surprised at how weak and tentative her serve is. She does seem to have improved her BH compared to last year, though.
 

FloridaAG

Hall of Fame
Henin's serve is/was way better than hers even with her double fault propensity

She needs serious work on her serve
 

Fedace

Banned
Well, I agree with you, but Henin has won 5+ Grand Slams at being 1.67 metres tall, Oudin is 1.68 metres tall.. Neither have a big serve and Henin has destroyed just about every type of player out there in the women's tour.

Just give her time.

LOL,,Henin has a Huge serve...
 
Well looks like she "struggled" big time last night!

TRU DAT!

But on a more serious not, I love Melanie, but I think she's a nobody. And she's better that way. I could see her reaching the high 20's at very best. And only temporarily. That serve will be torn apart eventually. Plus the high backhand problem. With a little luck she could be a Hewitt-style player, but Hewitt has a much more impressive first serve, and that's saying a lot.
 
I think she can be top 20. She has a good game, a bit of variety, good footwork, and can go for her shots. Plus, she has a good mentality on court. However, she cannot overwhelm anybody, and the serve is a puffball (but her height will prevent her from doing too much with it anyway).

She's still young. I feel bad for her when people write her off just 1 year into her pro career.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
LOL,,Henin has a Huge serve...

No, she does not have a huge serve. It is not a joke like Dementieva's, but it is not some consistent weapon in her game.

Regarding Oudin: she simply needs to work on better placement of the serve, like going out wide, then coming in on occasion, since it will never be a weapon for easy points.
 

JustBob

Hall of Fame
At 5' 6", she might be scrappy and gutsy, but she has top 50 talent at best. She has nowhere near the skills of Henin.
 

split-step

Professional
Well, I agree with you, but Henin has won 5+ Grand Slams at being 1.67 metres tall, Oudin is 1.68 metres tall.. Neither have a big serve and Henin has destroyed just about every type of player out there in the women's tour.

Just give her time.

Henin is a way more talented player than Oudin. Pls don't compare the 2.
Henin has a bigger first and second serve, is stronger than her and has more facets to her game and doesn't need her opponents to be slumping to win.
 

split-step

Professional
No, she does not have a huge serve. It is not a joke like Dementieva's, but it is not some consistent weapon in her game.

Actually at her peak, Henin's serve was pretty big. In the 06, 07 season she served bigger than the majority of her peers. She served bigger than Sharapova, and this was pre doublefaultpova.

But it was her second serve that was the key. She was very aggressive with her second delivery and when she made it, it wasn't very attackable. So her service percentage wasn't ever really high (about high 50s) but points won on serve was always very good.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Well, so much for Oudin at the 2010 U.S. Open.

She needs a new coach just to work on her serve, and another to give her a sense of forming an actual strategy. I doubt this will happen since many around her are too comfortable thinking she's still in some "growing" phase.
 

Grass_for_cows

Semi-Pro
Actually at her peak, Henin's serve was pretty big. In the 06, 07 season she served bigger than the majority of her peers. She served bigger than Sharapova, and this was pre doublefaultpova.

But it was her second serve that was the key. She was very aggressive with her second delivery and when she made it, it wasn't very attackable. So her service percentage wasn't ever really high (about high 50s) but points won on serve was always very good.

Even when Henin was serving well it was 99% down the T. Not that you can blame her, being so short and all, but what were her opponents thinking?
 
D

decades

Guest
she's also struggling with balls hit hard to her backhand.
 

Araxen

Rookie
I like Oudin, but hate how ESPN has overhyped her. I think it has hurt her career somewhat. ESPN is dying for another American on the women's side because the Williams sisters are on borrowed time.
 

courtking

Semi-Pro
I like Oudin, but hate how ESPN has overhyped her. I think it has hurt her career somewhat. ESPN is dying for another American on the women's side because the Williams sisters are on borrowed time.

What's new with ESPN and those American commentators.. They all overhyped the new up and commer USA players.. put more pressure on them and then the american all go out early..
 

HollerOne5

Semi-Pro
Im kind of shocked how much she did NOT improve in the last year. A real champion (as history has shown us) always grows from a big run, like her QF appearance last year. Champions ride that momentum and get better. I saw some of her performance today vs. the Russian chick, and I was shocked at how pathetic her serve is, first and second. She was serving at 85mph tops on her first serve. That ain't never going to cut it. Oh yea, and she pushes the ball, and too many of her balls just go straight down the middle of the court. Very weak indeed - needs loads improvement.
 
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