over-rated to under-rated things in tennis

[George Turner]

given a score out of 10 about how over-rated they are.

10- totally overrated.
5- Rated where they should be
1- Totally underrated
0- So obviously bad no one could possibly rate them.

-10 Rios, Kyrgios, Zverev arrogance
-9 Dimitrov, Gasquet backhand, evolution of tennis
-8 Federer serve, Thiem mental strength, Nalbandian
-7 Nadal humbleness, Becker serve, Safin
-6 Shapovalov, Federer volley, Sampras serve
-5 Nadal on clay, Kyrgios at basketball, Djokovic return game
-4 Simon court craft, McEnroe commentary, Wawrinka forehand
-3 Nadal backhand, Djokovic on clay, Roddick press conferences
-2 Ferrer return game, influence of poly strings on tennis, Karlovic volley
-1 Federer on clay, Wilander, Philippoussis wasted talent
-0 Paire forehand, Castle talent, Becker finances

 

[jm1980]

9 - Talent of ballbashers who have had underwhelming careers
8 - Djokovic arrogance and obnoxiousness
7 - Federer slice BH, Wawrinka backhand
6 - Nadal's volleys, Emerson's career
5 - Zverev arrogance, Nadal on clay
4 - Berdych's mental strength, Djokovic serve
3 - Benefit of surface homogenisation for Big 3, Fed included; Nadal serve
2 - Federer topspin backhand, Djokovic forehand

 

[King No1e]

Overrated - Wimbledon, Isner serve, Federer backhand, Sampras, Wawrinka's "dominance" over Djokovic, Kyrgios, Becker's overall standing
Most Overrated in tennis - Reliance on power in modern game (Nad/Djok/Murray aren't ballbashers, they rely on athleticism/grit more than power)
Correctly Rated - Nadal on clay, Sampras at Wimbledon, Agassi, Karlovic serve, Zverev, Djokovic return, Federer's 04-09 dominance
Underrated - Longevity, Well-roundedness, Djokovic at USO, Djokovic volleys (not overhead lol), Nadal on grass/net game, Laver, Vilas, Connors, Newcombe, Federer at USO, Alex de Minaur
Most underrated in tennis - Ken Rosewall (A GOAT contender but not appreciated as so)

 

[Phoenix1983]

10 - Navratilova's doubles career being a criteria for her to be female GOAT
9 - Safin being Federer's equal "if he could be bothered"
8 - Nalbandian being Federer's near-equal "if he could be bothered"; Emerson, according to those with little knowledge of tennis history
7 - ATGs with more "celebrity profiles" (Agassi, Mac, Becker, King), often rated a bit too high in GOAT lists
6 - Graf (due to Seles stabbing), Nadal and Novak Djokovic (due to recency bias)
5 - Federer as the GOAT, Nadal as clay GOAT, Sampras's career (shown to be ATG but not GOAT level)
4 - Lendl's career and impact on tennis, Connors' career and impact on tennis
3 - Evert, Wilander, Court, Rosewall; Emerson, according to those who do too much research into tennis history
2 - Pancho Gonzales, should be in everyone's all-time top 5 (minimum) yet his name is unknown to the majority of tennis fans
1 - Jack Kramer, the totality of his life in tennis (player, then pioneer of the pro game, which led directly to today's global ATP tour)
0 - Tomic

 

[ak24alive]

Underrated things on tennis forums:
George Turner's threads.

 

[junior74]

1 - Dudi Sela

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

1 - Dudi Sela

5'11'' vs 6'0''

 

[merlinpinpin]

10 - Navratilova's doubles career being a criteria for her to be female GOAT

To be fair, Navratilova's doubles carreer is just the icing on top. Her singles career is already more than enough to have her as FemGOAT, and by a fair margin, too, imho.

 

[Red Rick]

Overrated

1. Nick Kyrgios' talent
large gap
2. Pete Sampras' 2nd serve
3. Roger Federer's serve.

honorable mentions

- 90's grass
- serve & volleyers - really people just used to suck from the baseline
- "all court play"
- ehrmagherd tennis iz bizznus
- Fed's contribution to tennis
- Nadal to a lesser extent too
- Fed's humility
- Surface distribtuation
- Serena Williams.


Underrated
1. Mythical Agressive Mury
2. Peak Andy Roddick potential
3. Federer slice.

honorable mentions

- Extended 5th sets.
- Benefits of doping in tennis, as well as the use of doping in tennis

Yes, I have Federer as underrated too.

My mind is blown.

 

[Phoenix1983]

To be fair, Navratilova's doubles carreer is just the icing on top. Her singles career is already more than enough to have her as FemGOAT, and by a fair margin, too, imho.

LOL, I knew of all my choices, this would be the one that people disputed.

Her singles career isn't enough to place her ahead of Serena, Graf, or arguably Court and Evert.

But anyway, my main gripe with people talking about her doubles career is that they only add doubles on for her - i.e. they don't do an entire ranking for everyone based on the totality of their careers (singles and doubles) - which would lead to things like McEnroe and Newcombe being ranked much higher, if applied consistently. They do entire rankings based solely on singles, then to push their favourite Navratilova to the top, they throw in doubles just for her (ignoring the fact that Court and Serena also have stellar doubles records).

So be it.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Underrated: Newcombe's mustache

 

[Kimiko Yuuki]

Underratedated: UTR standard.
Correctly Rated: Racket smashing tantrums. [emoji38]

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[Deleted member 733170]

Federer’s volley skills are the most underrated thing on this forum.

Speak to any former pro above the age of 40 and they will likely back up my view that Federer has the greatest volley in the history of the game.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

1 Pete Sampras

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

1 Pete Sampras

+1

 

[Red Rick]

Underratedated: UTR standard.
Correctly Rated: Racket smashing tantrums. [emoji38]

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Nonononnoono

Proper stick break = definitely underrated.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Nonononnoono

Proper stick break = definitely underrated.

FedrGOAT?

 

[Red Rick]

FedrGOAT?

I don't think Fedr broke enough sticks to be in the conversation, but I do believe he has great, underused talent in that department.

 

[Tyskie]

1 Pete Sampras

Why? I don't think that being considered as top3-6 of all times is underrated. Unlike Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Laver he was unable to win FO, a thing much harder for Djoko or Fed since they're playing in Nadal's clay era. And Borg and his huge dominance during his times. Anyway, most of the people put Sampras above Borg, so I really don't know how is he underrated.

 

[The Green Mile]

Paire changing direction down the line off the forehand off a mid paced ball, just might be the worst shot of all time. There is Ivo's backhand drive mind you... 0 points.

7. Fed serve, Sampras serve, Nadal without injuries
5. Djoker smash
4. Calleri backhand, D.Medvedev serve, Delpo footwork
3. Nishikori forecourt game, Kiefer tactics, Ancic pre mono
2. Simon crowd support
1. Jason Goodall

 

[tennis_pro]

Nadal's 11 FOs. I rate them as high as one of Federer's Halle titles. They are probably worth more.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

I don't think Fedr broke enough sticks to be in the conversation, but I do believe he has great, underused talent in that department.

Aaaah, the "peak" vs "consistency" debate again.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

10 - The 'Career Slam' post-homogenization
9 - Nadal's volleys
7 - The Next Gen
5 - Generation Useless
3- Andy Roddick

 

[duaneeo]

10. 2010 - 2019
5. 1990 - 1999
1. 2000 - 2009

 

[OldschoolKIaus]

10 - Each GOAT army and their agenda postings.
1 - humble personality of Big 3 (Fed, Rafa and Sir Andrew)

 

[Purplemonster]

Overrated - Wimbledon, Isner serve, Federer backhand, Sampras, Wawrinka's "dominance" over Djokovic, Kyrgios, Becker's overall standing
Most Overrated in tennis - Reliance on power in modern game (Nad/Djok/Murray aren't ballbashers, they rely on athleticism/grit more than power)
Correctly Rated - Nadal on clay, Sampras at Wimbledon, Agassi, Karlovic serve, Zverev, Djokovic return, Federer's 04-09 dominance
Underrated - Longevity, Well-roundedness, Djokovic at USO, Djokovic volleys (not overhead lol), Nadal on grass/net game, Laver, Vilas, Connors, Newcombe, Federer at USO, Alex de Minaur
Most underrated in tennis - Ken Rosewall (A GOAT contender but not appreciated as so)

Sampras overrated !!! Too funny