Overgrip: Yonex Super Grap vs Wilson Pro Overgrip

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ChimpChimp

Semi-Pro
Wilson Pro Overgrip

Yonex Super Grap Synthetic Over Grip AC102C

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Around the place where I live, an overwhelming majority uses the Wilson one. And quite a few use the Yonex one.

I have used neither. I use no-brand ones, 0.6mm, tacky, no pattern, no holes.

I know how they look (0.6mm, no pattern, no holes), but don't want to blindly buy to try.

How would you describe these two items? Particularly the Yonex one, since I see cheap bulkpack on an online shop, and am thinking about getting a pack.
 
Yonex Supergrap is very similar to Wilson Pro, I feel like I can describe both using the same description.

They start out with a medium tac that would be a step above most base-grip tackyness. The problem is both the Wilson and Yonex get very dirty very quickly. As they get dirtier, they not only lose their tackyness but they take on a course/harsh texture that most people would find undesirable. This will probably lead to blistering if you don't replace it.

Also, you can't stretch/ pull tight either of these two overgrips much because they tend to tear which ruins the texture.

I wouldn't recommend either.

What I would recommend is the Tourna MEGA-Tac (not the Tourna Tac, which is comparable to these Wilson and Yonex items).

Tourna Mega-Tac is probably twice as tacky as Wilson Pro/Yonex Supergrap. At resists dirt far better than the Wilson/Yonex. As it gets dirtier, tackyness does decrease but instead of becoming course/harsh like the Wilson and Yonex, the Mega-Tac becomes what I would describe as a soft rubber feeling. The playability duration of Mega-Tac is considerably longer than the Wilson/Yonex.

You can also stretch/pull tight Mega-Tac a lot without fear of it tearing - it keeps its texture even when taught.


I love Yonex gear, but honestly Tourna Mega-Tac knocks Supergrap out of the park. When I buy it, it's usually cheaper per grip than Wilson and Yonex.
 
I actually just bought a few Yonex grips because I've heard great things about them, but I'm a long-time Wilson Pro Overgrip user. Unlike Yoneyama, I've never had issue with them tearing when I pull them tight. They also have decent durability in my opinion. I haven't tried the Tourna Mega-Tac though, as I rarely hear people mention it; only the standard Tourna grip which won't even last me a match sometimes. I could generally use a Wilson grip for a full tournament just fine, although I haven't played many tournaments lately. But I also don't like changing things in the middle of a tournament if I can help it.
 
I agree with Big Bagel, not sure why Yoneyama says SG won't stretch.

SG white is the one to go with having medium tack, thin profile, sure grip and decent durability.

Wilson Pro is very plush feeling, but a bit slippery for me.
 
Yoneyama said:
Yonex Supergrap is very similar to Wilson Pro, I feel like I can describe both using the same description.

They start out with a medium tac that would be a step above most base-grip tackyness. The problem is both the Wilson and Yonex get very dirty very quickly. As they get dirtier, they not only lose their tackyness but they take on a course/harsh texture that most people would find undesirable. This will probably lead to blistering if you don't replace it.

Also, you can't stretch/ pull tight either of these two overgrips much because they tend to tear which ruins the texture.

I wouldn't recommend either.

What I would recommend is the Tourna MEGA-Tac (not the Tourna Tac, which is comparable to these Wilson and Yonex items).

Tourna Mega-Tac is probably twice as tacky as Wilson Pro/Yonex Supergrap. At resists dirt far better than the Wilson/Yonex. As it gets dirtier, tackyness does decrease but instead of becoming course/harsh like the Wilson and Yonex, the Mega-Tac becomes what I would describe as a soft rubber feeling. The playability duration of Mega-Tac is considerably longer than the Wilson/Yonex.

You can also stretch/pull tight Mega-Tac a lot without fear of it tearing - it keeps its texture even when taught.


I love Yonex gear, but honestly, Tourna Mega-Tac knocks Supergrap out of the park. When I buy it, it's usually cheaper per grip than Wilson and Yonex.
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I was about to say you have a Yonex logo as your avatar but you don't recommend Supergrap.

The dirt problem can easily be solved if you just use a darker color, pretty much anything but white and dirt won't show much. Honestly, Yonex is my favorite grip to use in any weather conditions. The only downside is that when it's really warm and humid, it won't absorb sweat as easily as tournagrip. I find it's durability to be much better than tournagrip in more reasonable weather conditions though. Just my 2 cents though.
 
Big_Dangerous said:
I was about to say you have a Yonex logo as your avatar but you don't recommend Supergrap.

The dirt problem can easily be solved if you just use a darker color, pretty much anything but white and dirt won't show much. Honestly, Yonex is my favorite grip to use in any weather conditions. The only downside is that when it's really warm and humid, it won't absorb sweat as easily as tournagrip. I find it's durability to be much better than tournagrip in more reasonable weather conditions though. Just my 2 cents though.
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The dirt appearance isnt a big concern, it's more so the harsh texture that comes as a result of being dirty.

Regular Tournagrip durability is probably the worst but it's benefits for sweat make up for it.

Big Bagel said:
I actually just bought a few Yonex grips because I've heard great things about them, but I'm a long-time Wilson Pro Overgrip user. Unlike Yoneyama, I've never had issue with them tearing when I pull them tight. They also have decent durability in my opinion. I haven't tried the Tourna Mega-Tac though, as I rarely hear people mention it; only the standard Tourna grip which won't even last me a match sometimes. I could generally use a Wilson grip for a full tournament just fine, although I haven't played many tournaments lately. But I also don't like changing things in the middle of a tournament if I can help it.
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Maybe I was a bit harsh on the Wilson and Yonex offerings. They are good, but I think the Tourna Mega Tac is just comprehensively superior. Everyone locally that I have played with I have managed to convert over to Mega Tac (most used Wilson Pro beforehand).

When I say they tear when pulled very tight, I dont mean rip.. I mean like the surface suffers many "micro tears" where the grip surface texture of the grip gets sort of wrinkly. I have an old babolat lieing around with a lightly used Wilson Pro on it, I will upload a picture later to show what I mean.
 
Yoneyama said:
Maybe I was a bit harsh on the Wilson and Yonex offerings. They are good, but I think the Tourna Mega Tac is just comprehensively superior. Everyone locally that I have played with I have managed to convert over to Mega Tac (most used Wilson Pro beforehand).

When I say they tear when pulled very tight, I dont mean rip.. I mean like the surface suffers many "micro tears" where the grip surface texture of the grip gets sort of wrinkly. I have an old babolat lieing around with a lightly used Wilson Pro on it, I will upload a picture later to show what I mean.
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I will have to try that Mega Tac then. You should've told me this last week before I placed my order for the Yonex grips so I could've ordered both!

I have not had any more trouble with them than I have with any grip when it comes to making sure there's no wrinkles or anything. I am very picky about my grip and never rush it; I make sure the overlap is near-perfect the entire way up the handle with no wrinkles.
 
Yoneyama said:
The dirt appearance isnt a big concern, it's more so the harsh texture that comes as a result of being dirty.

Regular Tournagrip durability is probably the worst but it's benefits for sweat make up for it.




Maybe I was a bit harsh on the Wilson and Yonex offerings. They are good, but I think the Tourna Mega Tac is just comprehensively superior. Everyone locally that I have played with I have managed to convert over to Mega Tac (most used Wilson Pro beforehand).

When I say they tear when pulled very tight, I dont mean rip.. I mean like the surface suffers many "micro tears" where the grip surface texture of the grip gets sort of wrinkly. I have an old babolat lieing around with a lightly used Wilson Pro on it, I will upload a picture later to show what I mean.
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Oh yeah, I know what you mean about the grip gets a bit wrinkly when you pull it real tight. That's why I don't pull it real tight when wrapping it. For the leather grips, I pull as tight as I can, but the Yonex Supergraps are plenty long in length, to the point that wrapping it with minimal pulling, it will still easily cover the entire grip of the racket with plenty of excess overgrip left. :)
 
I’ve grown fond of Head overgrips. They are tachy and last quite some time. Wilson pro, with perforated holes get really slippy quickly.


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How is the Mega-tac in humid weather? I like the Wilson Pro b/c it stays tacky in high humidity. the Head overgrips I have are useless in humid weather.
 
I wouldnt recommend getting Mega-Tac in hot places as your sweat will kill off the intense tac the grip has. Its best to use Mega-Tac in cooler environment while the original Tourna is best in humid environments.
 
Sorry to thread jump, but can someone tell me if the Wilson Pro Overgrip and/or the Wilson Pro Sensation Overgrip is tapered on the beginning (butt end) of the grip?

Thanks!

TripleB
 
I use both the Wilson and Yonex. They both feel similar but I lean towards the Wilson ever so slightly.

Pro tip: Also, you should be changing overgrips after every match anyway!
 
There is no difference between Yonex and Wilson version of Supergrap/WilsonPro and there's no convincing me otherwise. :giggle:
 
TripleB said:
Sorry to thread jump, but can someone tell me if the Wilson Pro Overgrip and/or the Wilson Pro Sensation Overgrip is tapered on the beginning (butt end) of the grip?

Thanks!

TripleB
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I know the Wilson Pro Overgrip is tapered. I would assume the Sensation is as well because all the other Wilson ones I've tried have been, but I can't say for sure.
 
I like supergrap but not that durable. To me it's rubbery and tacky like Gamma Supreme but more absorbent but not nearly as durable.
 
I prefer the Yonex (white). But then again I'm not too picky and i play way past when most folks would replace it.
I just moisten my hand abit to keep it working longer.

I'm lazy and often walk on the court wishing i had a newer OG, but i just play on.
 
Yonex a tad more tacky the first hour and is a bit thicker. I prefer the Wilson. Both are durable to me but i dont like too tacky.
 
Wilson pro is tapered, but to avoid tearing up my original grip I actually use them backwards. I start the butt with the non tapered end and use the sticky tapered end on itself or the heat shrink of the original grip.
Saw nick kyrgios do one like this during a change over and I've been doing it like that ever since. Seems faster/easier to me.
TripleB said:
Sorry to thread jump, but can someone tell me if the Wilson Pro Overgrip and/or the Wilson Pro Sensation Overgrip is tapered on the beginning (butt end) of the grip?

Thanks!

TripleB
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wilson.pog has a more talcum powder feel, thusly, good for outdoor spring summer grip
yonex.sgo has a tackier medium sticky/feel and good for fall winter indoor seasons

tourna tack, is highly sticky overgrip, best in winter, worst in summer
 
I have had some Wilson perfored overgrips. Do not know the brand name, but I think there was a reference to pro-something. But to my experience, they have been and become really slippy in no time. They kind of dry out instantly.

What I have found really good are Head Prestige Pro. They are tacky in the beginning and hold the charasteristics for some time too.


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No more on pain meds - all contributed matter and anti-matter are still subject to disclaimer
 
Tier One Sports Tacky overgrip was the best tacky overgrip I’ve used. But all tacky overgrips become slippery (*Wilson Pro and Yonex Supergrab both become almost soapy slippery) when soaked, so I actually like the dry overgrip. My favorite overgrip is Luxilon Dry overgrip.
 
Absolute LOVE supergrap when new, but as it wears down it starts to rip up and give me blisters under my ring finger and and on the side of my thumb :(
 
I tried 124EX and loved it. Found it better than 120EX plus it's made in Japan. I'm not a fan of Wilson as it wears out too fast.

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Tourna Megatac is SUPER tacky, so tacky that I don't like it when switching forehand to backhand, vice versa, the other problem was for me at least is that it's not tapered. I'm not OCD, but I am when it comes to how and where the overlay is and how it makes me hold the racket. Wilson is softer/plush, Yonex is tackier in the beginning a slightly tougher, but not in a bad way. Color seems to matter since I played with the black SG and it seems to be thicker could be in my head, but it really does feel thicker than the white ones. Friend had a Technifibre pro players overgrip on his racket and it was quite nice, it was used even and still felt good. Good luck.
 
mhkeuns said:
Tier One Sports Tacky overgrip was the best tacky overgrip I’ve used. But all tacky overgrips become slippery (*Wilson Pro and Yonex Supergrab both become almost soapy slippery) when soaked, so I actually like the dry overgrip. My favorite overgrip is Luxilon Dry overgrip.
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That Luxilon Dry Overgrip (gray) started fraying on me within an hour, which I've never experienced with Tourna Grip. I've been using Solinco's Heaven Grip (I believe) and it might replace Tourna Grip. Stays fairly dry and not slippery even after multiple sets.
 
i find the Wilson pro over grip to be thinner than the Yonex. The Yonex is also more rubbery in feel. Both are very good. Which one you need depends on the racquet grip size and base grip scenario. i.e. with yonex 4 3/8 grip size with a 1.5 mm leather grip, i use Yonex supagrap. With Yonex 4 1/2 grip size and 1.3mm leather I use Wilson overgrip.
 
struggle said:
I prefer the Yonex (white). But then again I'm not too picky and i play way past when most folks would replace it.
I just moisten my hand abit to keep it working longer.

I'm lazy and often walk on the court wishing i had a newer OG, but i just play on.
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lol, I was about to say the same thing. I sweat a lot, and a simple palm-slap on the top of my bald head followed with a light spin of the handle revives my grip for another session...

I can use both interchangeably, but agree with @Crashbaby in that I find Wilson to be ever-so-slightly thinner.
 
Crashbaby said:
i find the Wilson pro over grip to be thinner than the Yonex. The Yonex is also more rubbery in feel. Both are very good. Which one you need depends on the racquet grip size and base grip scenario. i.e. with yonex 4 3/8 grip size with a 1.5 mm leather grip, i use Yonex supagrap. With Yonex 4 1/2 grip size and 1.3mm leather I use Wilson overgrip.
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Very good explonation. I agree
 
In the sweatiest parts of the year I have had Yonex fail me. A new overgrip just coming out of my hands.

The Wilson is better in this regard.

Otherwise I like both equally.

It's true what others have said - Wilson is slightly thinner and Yonex is slightly thicker.
 
red rook said:
In the sweatiest parts of the year I have had Yonex fail me. A new overgrip just coming out of my hands.

The Wilson is better in this regard.

Otherwise I like both equally.

It's true what others have said - Wilson is slightly thinner and Yonex is slightly thicker.
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Use the dry side of SG.

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No way is a Wilson Pro overgrip better than Supergrap in sweaty conditions. Unpossible.

I live in the sauna that is the southeastern US, where the sweat soaks my grips 12 months a year and I can tell you from experience that the Yonex performs better when sweaty. I’m not sure if it’s more absorbent or why exactly it’s better, but it is.

Wilson feels great in dry conditions, more tacky, more durable and slightly more comfort, I think. But if it gets wet it turns into a greasy mess. Do not recommend.
 
Crashbaby said:
i find the Wilson pro over grip to be thinner than the Yonex. The Yonex is also more rubbery in feel. Both are very good. Which one you need depends on the racquet grip size and base grip scenario. i.e. with yonex 4 3/8 grip size with a 1.5 mm leather grip, i use Yonex supagrap. With Yonex 4 1/2 grip size and 1.3mm leather I use Wilson overgrip.

1 year ago I replaced my replacement grip "Head Hydrosorb Pro" (1.75mm) and 6 months ago I started noticing that the the grip size was shrinking. Since I added a new replacement grip I've been using Yonex supergrap overgrip or Wilson pro comfort (alternating between the two). A few years back I used to use Head X-treme soft but it got very slippery with hot and humid conditions plus it didn't last long.

I play with a Head Graphene XT Radical MP A (16x19 string pattern) and the grip size is 4/3/8. I've always been playing with an overgrip as I want to go up half a grip size (to 3.5) but I've never had a problem until recently when I started experimenting with wilson pro comfort instead of yonex supergrap. Supposedly they're the same thickness so that's why I intended to use them interchangeably. So what's the problem?

With the Wilson Pro (Comfort) overgrip it's fine for the first couple of hours then the grip size shrinks and it's very noticeable because my I feel like I'm gripping a smaller racket handle and as a result my shots have too much spin and not enough depth. This makes me lose consistency and confidence and it is very frustrating.

Out of desperation I very recently bought a Wilson sublime replacement grip and tried the wilson pro overgrip over that and it was OK for the 1st hour but then the grip size shrank again.

I found out that the default replacement grip on my racket (i.e. when I first bought it) is Head Hydrosorb Pro 1.75mm. Perhaps I should try replacing the current Wilson Sublime (Feel) replacement grip with the original Head replacement grip and then add Super Grap on top? Or should I go for a much thicker Head replacement grip such as this one (https://bit.ly/3lw02yh) and use Wilson Pro (Comfort) as an overgrip? Please advise as I'm about to lose my mind and love of the game!!!
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I think part of the nice thing about wilson pro is how much it stays cushy. I would consider trying super grap but if its thinner that kind of kills the asparagus for me.
 
Does the white Yonex supergrap overgrip have any yonex writings on it or is it 100% white and with no logos like the Wilson Pro?
 
CiscoPC600 said:
That Luxilon Dry Overgrip (gray) started fraying on me within an hour, which I've never experienced with Tourna Grip. I've been using Solinco's Heaven Grip (I believe) and it might replace Tourna Grip. Stays fairly dry and not slippery even after multiple sets.
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Yes something happened with the luxilon elite dry after 2018. they don't even last 30 minutes. I tried the elite dry when they first came out. The best replacement currently is Tourna Tuff. It is very similar to the luxilon elite dry when it was first released.
 
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