Overrated Rune

[nolefam_2024]

He needs to change his name to Ruune.

Then he will start even choking. At least right now his mental game is good.

 

[TheSlicer]

I don't think Djokovic at Carlos's current age was necessarily worse than him. We'll find out in a little over a week, but Djokovic didn't have 2 slams at that point because of peak Fed.

Oh well then we can only agree to disagree, i watched a lot of matches from him at that time, in my opinión he was clearly a worse player, but i wont argue, if people want to think that Carlos IS gonna have a Chang like career hell Who am i to try to change their minds, to each their own

 

[pirhaksar]

What is puzzling to me is he is the only one outside of Raz to play it very close with Djokovic and getting couple of Ws. He hangs with Djokovic and makes him work every point! Why can he not replicate with “mugs”!? Clearly it’s not mental if he can go toe to toe with Djokovic.

 

[nolefam_2024]

What is puzzling to me is he is the only one outside of Raz to play it very close with Djokovic and getting couple of Ws. He hangs with Djokovic and makes him work every point! Why can he not replicate with “mugs”!? Clearly it’s not mental if he can go toe to toe with Djokovic.

Just because someone makes it tough with the GOAT doesn't automatically mean they are tough themselves.
Eg. Wawrinka vs the field, I would say take the field. He was so inconsistent.

 

[jhick]

Everyone

So much for your moniker of NeutralFan.

 

[pirhaksar]

Just because someone makes it tough with the GOAT doesn't automatically mean they are tough themselves.
Eg. Wawrinka vs the field, I would say take the field. He was so inconsistent.

But when Stan was at a level where he was hanging with Djokovic didn’t necessarily suffer from shock R2 defeats either. Stan now is a different player. Also unlike Stan Rune is not a hit through Djokovic player but outgrinds Djokovic with huge rally tolerance especially on BH side, if he deploys that against the field like 99% shouldn’t stand a chance.

 

[nolefam_2024]

But when Stan was at a level where he was hanging with Djokovic didn’t necessarily suffer from shock R2 defeats either. Stan now is a different player. Also unlike Stan Rune is not a hit through Djokovic player but outgrinds Djokovic with huge rally tolerance especially on BH side, if he deploys that against the field like 99% shouldn’t stand a chance.

Are you kidding me?
R1 loss in 2013 Wimbledon
R1 loss in 2014 RG
R2 loss in 2016 Wimbledon

Along with Rafael Nadal's worst exploits on grass during this time, Wawrinka was the second flop guy. Total hit or miss. He wins AO, loses in RG R1 then next year wins RG.

 

[Rosstour]

He is to blame for Halep as well? I think he is just thrown under the bus.

Patrick? No no.

My theory is his academy is a front for his real business, which is chemical stacks. Read between the lines, look at timelines. Serena's late career resurgence. C'mon

 

[WayneBretsky]

Holger is proving that he isn't anywhere near big 3 level.

At least till now sinner and Alcaraz are showing they can be beta big 3.

He’s 20 for goodness sake, relax

 

[NeutralFan]

Alcaraz has a higher peak level imo, but either way, it's debatable and fairly close. It's indeed the floor levels that separate these prodigies.

People here don't know what they're talking about. Alcaraz has achieved 10 times more than Rune but yeah Rune is more talented , technical and will dominate lol.

 

[NeutralFan]

He has been in the last 3 out of 4 finals. Thats not too bad.
Rune is the most technical sound player with a crazy top level. When he plays his best I dont see anybody at his level.

His weakness is his low level. Its all in the head.

Lmao, it's not just in head his FH is average and has problem dictating the play.

 

[NeutralFan]

Alcaraz is a one slam wonder so far and has lapses too. In fact, he can really be out of rhythm for an entire set against with wildly sprayed forehands.

Rune seems to run out of gas and stops playing smart in crucial moments. He should have easily broken Med 2-3x in the first set. Med was very fortunate on crucial points.
Djokovic used to run out of gas early in his career too.
But yea, Rune should have never lost to Rublev in MC.

This didn't age well, son!

 

[FeroBango]

People here don't know what they're talking about. Alcaraz has achieved 10 times more than Rune but yeah Rune is more talented , technical and will dominate lol.

But he's not any worse than Sinner was at 20 what with 3 GS QF (and a masters title) and all. But look at Sinner at 22.

I will give him some time but there has been a reality check to contrarian fans of Rune including an IRL best friend lol.

 

[a10best]

Are you kidding me?
R1 loss in 2013 Wimbledon
R1 loss in 2014 RG
R2 loss in 2016 Wimbledon

Along with Rafael Nadal's worst exploits on grass during this time, Wawrinka was the second flop guy. Total hit or miss. He wins AO, loses in RG R1 then next year wins RG.

The Flop guy's had a pretty good career that Tsonga, Gasquet, Berdych, Dimi, Ferrer, Delpo and tons would gladly trade with. His early rd losses were pre-2011 or post -2017 mostly due to injuries.
- Slams; 3 titles and 1 Runner-up.
- AO - 1 title, 2 SF, 2 QFs
- FO - 1 title, 1 runner-up, 1 SF, 2 QFs
- Wimby - 2 QFs
- USO - 1 title, 3 SFs, 2 QFs
- 70% win ratio in slam singles

 

[jl809]

Here I was talking up Sinner as the next Abuserev in slams and it turns out we might have more than 1 on our hands

 

[a10best]

This didn't age well, son!

All thanks to Djoker missing two routine rally BHs in a 2nd set tiebreaker. You can't beat anomalies.
Even the cowboys and eagles lose when they shouldn't.
I'm gonna raise his singles slam titles to 6 and I expect Sinner to catch & surpass Flash-litos.

 

[tudwell]

The elephant in the room for me, as far as Rune's game goes – or at least the thing I've seen almost no one mention – is his Tsitsipas-tier return stats. He needs to improve a lot on return to become a truly elite player. He seems to have the tools required to do that: good touch/hand-eye, explosive legs, short takebacks, etc. But whether that actually materializes is another matter.

 

[ActualTennisPlayer]

Are you kidding me?
R1 loss in 2013 Wimbledon
R1 loss in 2014 RG
R2 loss in 2016 Wimbledon

Along with Rafael Nadal's worst exploits on grass during this time, Wawrinka was the second flop guy. Total hit or miss. He wins AO, loses in RG R1 then next year wins RG.

Well to be fair to Stan. You can argue the following:
- Wimbledon was his weakness.
- R1 loss in RG could be explained by being overwhelmed after winning his first slam.
- from RG 2013 to RG2017 he has 13 out of 17 second weeks, 4 finals, 3 titles… that’s pretty consistent for a non-big 3 player

 

[nolefam_2024]

What a world of difference between Rune and Sinner atm

 

[big ted]

maybe he can be the andy murray of alcarez, sinner, and medvedev

 

[Impetus]

Lmao, it's not just in head his FH is average and has problem dictating the play.

Rune does have a crazy high top level. Unforunatly his low level is also very low.

He came into top 10 in the world beating all the best players including Djoker. For quite some time he struggles in some matches that he ought to win. He doesn't have the recipe to win matches when he doesn't play well.

He might never live up to his talent. It could very well be. That doesn't mean the talent is not there.

 

[NeutralFan]

Rune does have a crazy high top level. Unforunatly his low level is also very low.

He came into top 10 in the world beating all the best players including Djoker. For quite some time he struggles in some matches that he ought to win. He doesn't have the recipe to win matches when he doesn't play well.

He might never live up to his talent. It could very well be. That doesn't mean the talent is not there.

His crazy level involved rallying and frustrating Djokovic with his BH exchange , he doesn't have good enough FH to dictate the play and that's why he struggles to dominate the field and loses to nobody regularly.

 

[dking68]

His crazy level involved rallying and frustrating Djokovic with his BH exchange , he doesn't have good enough FH to dictate the play and that's why he struggles to dominate the field and loses to nobody regularly.

What you think of Sinner’s level now? Reminds you of Fed 2004?

 

[a10best]

What you think of Sinner’s level now? Reminds you of Fed 2004?

I hope he gets even better. The kid's looking very comfortable and natural executing some difficult shots.

 

[Boomski]

Not overrated at all! Maybe below Alcaraz and Sinner but he has big potential.

 

[Clay lover]

I still don't know how to gauge Rune's forehand. It looks too abbreviated for my taste. But I remember some stat nut saying its efficiency isn't actually that bad.

 

[TennisGrandpA]

This thread aged well and Rune has still not done anything and has gone downhill.