P90X - Who has? Tennis change?

TripleB

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Sitting here switching channels between The Biggest Loser and a P90X2 Infomercial.

So I have a few questions concerning the P90X program:

Wondering who has tried P90X and your thoughts on the program?

Did you stick with it for all 90 days?

Was it easy to modify the program when needed?

Did you see the huge results they show on TV?

How did you work your tennis into the program and how did it affect your tennis game?

Thanks.

TripleB

BTW: did a search and didn't see any info since last Summer.
 
Tennis wall, skipping rope, agility ladder, cones and grass oval / court for short sprints.

Should be enough to start.
 
I went through the original P90X program twice. I wasn't going for getting "huge" and "ripped", however. I used it to lose some weight and to get more fit. I only lost about 10lbs total but I definitely gained a lot of strength and lost inches in my waist. This program will help you with you tennis game. I experienced tennis related results after just two weeks into the program. I wasn't getting winded as easily during long rally points and because it works similar to interval training, you're able to get back to a lower heart rate much quicker for the next point. After about a month I was noticeably faster on the court and was much more explosive getting to balls much easier.

I since haven't been able to go through it again, but it's something that I think I'm going to start doing again once my ankle injury resolves itself. Definitely worth it.

DH
 
i havent done it personally, but know many that have. the body changing results will be greatly dependent on how well you follow the diet that comes with the DVDs. this is the single most important thing to achieve the chiseled and ripped look. just by following the DVDs, i would imagine that you would gain some strength and flexibility which would probably help your tennis game (assuming you don't already have a fitness routine which incorporates strength and conditioning). if you follow the diet and DVD's to a T, im sure that you could completely reshape your body.
 
I havent tried P90X yet, but Ive tried their sister program Insanity and Insanity Asylum. Essentially it comes down to eating habits. If you are willing to follow their meal plans, you will definitely see the results.

I am sure that you will see tennis related results from this program whether it be more explosiveness, faster speed, greater strength. It will definitely gear you up to become a better athlete.
 
P90X will get any tennis player who is not already doing an off court workout regimen in better shape.

The problem is that too many give up doing the program.

Even doing the workouts behind schedule would benefit those that don't have another off court workout program.

Don't expect to be really "ripped" doing P90X.

My wife and both daughters really liked it. But they won't include barbell training in their regimens - light dumbells, sure.
They have always loved various gym class workouts/kick boxing classes.

Losing weight is more about eating less/eating right than burning off calories, unless you burn off a lot more than in this program.
 
i did 3 cycles of 90 days. dropped 50 lbs...from size 38 waist to size 32

fantastic improvement to my tennis. court coverage...endurance...bend my knees for those tough volleys

ran into some trouble with the volume of pullups + tennis = elbow pain

takes discipline. like anything in life, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it
 
Thanks for all the input.

I decided to order Power 90...the precursor and easier version of P90X.

The main reasons are that I would rather not spend 60 to 90 minutes a day on P90X (I think P90 is <= 40 minutes), it seems fewer 'tools' are needed for Power 90, hopefully I will still feel like playing tennis after a Power 90 workout, and the most important reason is that my wife agreed that she would do the Power 90 with me...she wouldn't agree to the P90X.

TripleB
 
Similar to JPR. Not going to blame P90 for my Golfer's Elbow or bicep issue, but P90 didn't get my arm in the shape it had to be in to go from zero tennis to three times a week.

That said, insane endurance, flexibility, and explosiveness after the 11 weeks I made it through before the arm pain made me stop. Even my golf game improved with the increased balance, flexibility, and leg strength.
 
Darkhors said:
I went through the original P90X program twice. I wasn't going for getting "huge" and "ripped", however. I used it to lose some weight and to get more fit. I only lost about 10lbs total but I definitely gained a lot of strength and lost inches in my waist. This program will help you with you tennis game. I experienced tennis related results after just two weeks into the program. I wasn't getting winded as easily during long rally points and because it works similar to interval training, you're able to get back to a lower heart rate much quicker for the next point. After about a month I was noticeably faster on the court and was much more explosive getting to balls much easier.

I since haven't been able to go through it again, but it's something that I think I'm going to start doing again once my ankle injury resolves itself. Definitely worth it.

DH
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Going through my second time through the program. But my experience is much like Darkhors. You won't get incredibly ripped or huge but many of the exercises will directly affect your tennis. Lost about 30 lbs and dropped 4 inches off my waist. I really think it helped me keep my injuries to a minimum last summer. Using it to get in shape for outdoor season again.
 
I tried P90x and while I'm sure the program does work if you follow it, I just don't have 60 plus minutes a day to commit to it.

Instead, I do a 20 to 25 minute program of Olympic lifts with dumbbells 4 times a week and it has made a huge improvement in my strength and explosiveness in just a few weeks. Plus I really like doing the lifts which I can't say was true of everything I did with P90x.

This is a really good article which helped get me started:
http://www.nsca-lift.org/perform/articles/01065.pdf
 
r2473 said:
Your life must be quite stressful if you need to plan things this finely.
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I don't even know why I bother responding to your off-the-wall comments but here goes.

You don't see the difference between doing something 7 days a week for 60 minutes at a time versus 4 days a week for 20 to 25 minutes at a time? Your life must be free of commitments and responsibilities.
 
BULLSH*T ALERT!
Question: "Regarding P90X, I have heard of people trying this and getting great results. I am thinking about trying it too. Your thoughts? Do you agree with the muscle confusion concept? Thanks, "Jenn"

Answer: As with most "Question and Answer Sessions", I often find myself constantly circling-back to a few basic principles which govern or explain "everything" to do with eating, exercise, losing weight, or becoming more fit.

P90X is very popular these days. Does it work? First, define "work." If you are talking about "sculpting your body," maybe, but probably not. Abs exercises do not give you washboard abs, and "Brazilian-Butt" moves do not re-shape your butt. I have a few posts on this page which illustrates this fact. And please don't get me started on the dangers of the average-Joe doing "Plyometrics". I'm sure they must provide a doosey of a "disclaimer" in their advertising to avoid "injury" lawsuits resulting from this joint-jarring exercise protocol. Anybody suggesting that housewife-types in the "a bit pudgy" category performing these-type move is a moron!

Tony Horton is the face of P90X. I am sure he's a swell guy. Nevertheless, "Muscle-Confusion" and "Stacking Exercises" are nothing more than "twists" on factual exercise science. Muscles do not get "confused" - Sorry. Furthermore, "Stacking" used to be called "super-sets" giant-sets", descended-sets, drop-sets, etc. Marketers just keep inventing and re-inventing words and old terminology. Why? They have to because if they didn't there would be no "new sh*t" to sell you each year. In my opinion, Tony Horton knows this. Therefore, it's NOT a stretch to conclude that he is purposely misleading TV viewers. Even worse would be, if he does not know this. If that's the case, I would have to conclude that has no business calling himself an exercise expert.

Here's my bottom-line regarding P90X: Will it give you a good workout? Sure, if you "do it" and stick with it - most people don't.
That said, putting on a pair of grey sweatpants and old pair of sneakers and getting your ass moving - works too! P90X has created (in my opinion) more disappointed consumers, than sculpted bodies. Take it for what it's worth.

~Franny Goodrich
 
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TripleB said:
Thanks for all the input.

I decided to order Power 90...the precursor and easier version of P90X.

The main reasons are that I would rather not spend 60 to 90 minutes a day on P90X (I think P90 is <= 40 minutes), it seems fewer 'tools' are needed for Power 90, hopefully I will still feel like playing tennis after a Power 90 workout, and the most important reason is that my wife agreed that she would do the Power 90 with me...she wouldn't agree to the P90X.

TripleB
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Good call. Just about any program will improve your overall fitness if you do it for 1-1.5 hours a day. I think you can get a lot more tennis-focused workout spending a lot less time. P90X can also be hard on your body--especially if you're not a young dude.
 
I think the TRX system is a pretty cool way to add some strength training for a tennis player - if you are into that. Getting ripped is all about diet though...
 
Completed the 1st day of P90 this morning...it brought back memories of why I hated lifting weights - I've got no biceps, I've got no triceps, and I can't do a push up :)

I do feel like I worked parts of my body that obviously haven't been through anything like that in a while. My wife said it didn't feel tough enough to her compared to the walking on the treadmill she used to do. I'm going to make sure I give her my 25 pound resistance band tomorrow and I'm going to take her 5 pound resistance band.

TripleB
 
Champs990411 said:
I respect anyone who gets down with Dr. Horton, but if you think walking is more difficult than P90x, you're probably doing it wrong.
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Completed Day 2 about an hour ago...I think today kicked her rear a little more...she was struggling mightly (as was I) with the ab work at the end.

You would think swinging 12.45 ounces hundreds of times each week would get my abs in some kind of shape...obviously not!!!

TripleB
 
All too familiar! I went out and tried to play tennis right after my first time doing Plyo X. Was just watching the balls go by. Probably the most beneficial of the workouts for your game, IMO.
 
After one week of Power 90 I've lost 8.8 pounds and my wife has lost 7.0 pounds.

Going out to play tennis this afternoon for the first time since I started Power 90. We will see if I feel any stronger out on the court...doubt it since I did my 'long' workout of P90 this morning :).

TripleB
 
Keep up the good work TripleB.

I've done Power 90 and liked it. I actually went through about 60 days and then joined some friends for P90X. I saw great results in my explosiveness. I was moving faster and for longer periods than I had before. I'm convinced Power 90 is all a person needs.

I also tried Insanity and hated it. It was too much for me. I think it is a good workout for someone who is in their early 20s and already in great shape to continue to push themselves and stay there.

Currently, I've been doing Rushfit for approximately 6 weeks buyt haven't been playing anything as I've been nursing injuries. I know my core is stronger and my legs are stronger but I don't know how it will correlate to tennis, basketball, etc.

In a few weeks, I'll be joining my friends for P90X again. It is what we do. I enjoyed it but 90 minutes 6 days a week is tough on anyone's schedule. Power 90 does all a person needs in 40 minutes to 55 minutes.

As everyone has said, anything will work if you just commit to it and make it a daily routine. Good luck to you and your wife. Having workout partners is a big motivational plus.
 
dak95_00 said:
Keep up the good work TripleB.

I've done Power 90 and liked it. I actually went through about 60 days and then joined some friends for P90X. I saw great results in my explosiveness. I was moving faster and for longer periods than I had before. I'm convinced Power 90 is all a person needs.

In a few weeks, I'll be joining my friends for P90X again. It is what we do. I enjoyed it but 90 minutes 6 days a week is tough on anyone's schedule. Power 90 does all a person needs in 40 minutes to 55 minutes.

As everyone has said, anything will work if you just commit to it and make it a daily routine. Good luck to you and your wife. Having workout partners is a big motivational plus .
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Thanks for all of the input.

Would you say that P90X would be a nice 'next step' once I finish Power 90?

IYO, what does P90X give you that Power 90 didn't?

I thought about going to Power 90 Masters Series which seems similar to P90X but less extreme and not as long each day. I workout in the morning so getting up early enough to do a workout that lasts from 60-90 minutes doesn't sound that excitiing.

Thanks again...having my wife kick my butt out of bed each morning and giving me encouragement is a great help!!!

Good luck with the P90X.

TripleB
 
The only difference is that it gets more focused on muscle groups. That is, P90X is more about working a single or double group of muscles on a single day and Power 90 is a total body workout each day. For me, I gained 10 pounds doing P90X because I had neglected my chest and upper body for a long, long time while I became a runner.

I'm a morning person too. The only way to do P90X in the morning is to know the workouts and to do Ab Ripper X in the afternoon. You also have to split Yoga X into two sessions; morning and afternoon. The rest of the workouts are 60 minutes or less. It also requires more equipment.

I really think Power 90 is all a person needs. I've seen the Master Series. It just looks like P90X. If you are going to step it up, you might as well get P90X.

My current routine is to get up at 5am and workout for an hour. Go to work and then join co-workers for another 1 hour workout directly afterwards. I do the morning routine Mon-Thurs and the other routine Sun(on my own)-Friday. Right now, I do the upper body P90X workouts on Tues & Thurs and ride a bike on Mon & Wed in the mornings.

Stick with the Power 90 routine. If you can do Ab Ripper 200 without any trouble, you can do the P90X workouts too. It really is just the same stuff but more and more focused on a single part. If you NEED another challenge, go to P90X. Otherwise, stick to Power 90 or do one and then the other and rotate back and forth. The rotation thing is my plan for P90X and Rushfit at 7-8 week intervals.
 
I have done P90X, Insanity, Insanity Asylum and currently on P90X^2.

I have also did some parts of RevABS and Hip Hop abs. I hated those.

BTWI downloaded all of them....don't buy it too expensive. Save it for a new racquet

P90X will give you a great base if you haven't did an offcourt work. It gives you functional strength, very nice flexibilty with Yoga and X Stretch. I recommend learning Pilates on free websites along with it. Yoga...some people may say it is feminen....but it work you like never before. Simply those guys are just branding it wrong. Plyometrics is awesome also.....helped me jump 3 inches taller, made me more explosive on the court. Plyo helped transfer the strength I got from Chest and Back, Triceps and Shoulders into Power.

Recommend using a Medicine ball exercises on Plyo days. With Clapping push ups also.

P90X...has a lean program and bulk program. Go with the lean if you want to lose the weight and this one helps the tennis far more. I got some decent improvement with endurance and speed. My Strength grew and so did my power. I recommend this during tennis season and anytime.

I tried Insanity before P90X. I gave up on Insanity....cause it was Insane and I was slightly overweight. P90X..less harder to commit. I finshed P90X and moved on to Insanity.

Out of all the Programs....If you want the most improvement: Insanity and Insanity Asylum. Insanity was a hellhole, I was gassed out for the first few weeks even after I had done P90X. I recommend this during off season....since you may not have energy for tennis....and your anaeroebic creatine reserves will be depleted. This program gives you endurance though High Intestity on low intevals. Which is more than enought helps with the physical side of tennis.

Tennis is 5 sec points with 30 sec break between points. While Insanity is 3 min work with 30 sec break. Simply crazy. I had the most improvement on speed and endurance....It helped my one hander with having enough time and energy to execute the stroke over a 3 hour match.

Insanity asylum helps footwork with ladder drills and jump rope. You won't need this since most of this can be learned here on websites on improving agility and speed.

I recommend Insanity if you are trully determined to stick with it. Since it is the best program for improvement of the most important fitness sample of tennis.

If not, then got P90X and it will help endurance and speed but not to the level of insanity. Though P90X will give you better muscles and more power.

Nutrition is important. 5 meals a day, follow the guidelines. Insanity gives more carbs to work with than P90X since the intensity is on another level.

IN the begging you won't lose weight right away because muscle is replacing fat. As muscles increases at the latter stage you will lose the most fat and get a perfect body.

I watch the Biggest Loser too every week it goes on NBC.....it good to tell myself never become like that in my life. Keeps me on check with the program.
 
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dak95_00 said:
The only difference is that it gets more focused on muscle groups. That is, P90X is more about working a single or double group of muscles on a single day and Power 90 is a total body workout each day.

I really think Power 90 is all a person needs. I've seen the Master Series. It just looks like P90X. If you are going to step it up, you might as well get P90X.
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I'm liking Power 90 as well and am glad that I started with it instead of jumping straight into P90X...I think seeing my gradual improvement each day is a real motivation for me.

The reason I was considering the Power 90 Masters is: 1) it looks like a good progress from the Power 90; 2) it works various parts on different days (Core Cardio, Plyo Legs, Sweat 5/6, Sculpt 5/6, Cardio Intervals, Abs), although not as detailed as P90X; and 3) I can get it for $46 while P90X would cost me $140.

Thanks again for all your input!!!

kishnabe said:
I have done P90X, Insanity, Insanity Asylum and currently on P90X^2.
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I appreciate all your feedback and especially the comparisons you gave on the various programs....your input is greatly appreciated.

TripleB
 
+1 on Insanity. A lot of the movements mimic on-court movement and best of all, most workouts are only 45 minutes, unlike P90X.

Here's a tip - Do Insanity barefoot on a good mat. Otherwise, you may have some pretty bad foot pain like I did.
 
TripleB said:
After one week of Power 90 I've lost 8.8 pounds and my wife has lost 7.0 pounds.

Going out to play tennis this afternoon for the first time since I started Power 90. We will see if I feel any stronger out on the court...doubt it since I did my 'long' workout of P90 this morning :).

TripleB
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Just curious as to how you felt getting back on the court the first time after starting your P90 routine.
 
tennis_tater said:
Just curious as to how you felt getting back on the court the first time after starting your P90 routine.
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Felt great!!! Felt like I had more energy. As far as movement I couldn't really tell much difference during the first set...I had only been doing Power 90 8 days at that point. Had enough energy after 1 set of doubles to run 2.1 miles and then come back and play 3 more sets of doubles. All of that was after I did Power 90 that morning.

Tomorrow night will really give me some indication. I've been doing Power 90 for about 2 weeks, I do the long 'Sweat' workout in the morning, then I'm going to play some tough singles tomorrow night.

I'll let you know how that goes.

TripleB
 
i did but never finished power 90 and p90x. p90x is a huge step up given what you pay for, the studio and the variation in exercises compared to power 90.

these programs are just routines for the most part and i did end up modifying them for my needs.

as for body transformation. think of the 80/20 rule. 80% what you eat, 20% exercise. In reality I think the ratio is more 60/40.
 
rodlaver32 said:
I have done the insanity workout as well, my brother told me about it, I did not necessarily follow a meal plan but I did watch what I was eating a bit more. The workout is so enduring that it feels like a waste of effort and energy to just eat whatever you want afterwards. I have since taken an extended break from the program and have yet to return. My problem with work out videos is I get sick of the redundancy which kills my motivation. Does anyone have any tips on how to keep motivated in a workout after you have done it more times than you can count?
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I share the same problem as you, but at least Insanity has some nice eye candy, such as Ariel. As shallow as it seems, it keeps me motivated :)
 
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