Pacific Classic Gut Shearing

themitchmann

Hall of Fame
Anyone run into this issue with Pacific Classic Gut? I started stringing with it when Babolat Tonic went up in price and have had multiple issues from shearing.
 

WilsonPlayer101

Professional
Anyone run into this issue with Pacific Classic Gut? I started stringing with it when Babolat Tonic went up in price and have had multiple issues from shearing.
Well, themitchmann, I have only used Pacific once and that was Blue Spiral but I did not have any problems with it at all. I have one more set actually but it's not installed yet. But yes the first set I installed was fine during the stringing and during play. Maybe Classic is different in that way.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I am a long-time user of Pacific Classic and have never had any problems. Did you purchase it from TW? If so, I would advise contacting them as you may have some recourse.
 

Maui19

Hall of Fame
I too am a user of Pacific Classic Gut and have never had any problems with it. Perhaps it is a bad batch.
 

themitchmann

Hall of Fame
I don't use it often, but I have 2 customers that have broken it on mishits near the frame. I've never had a problem like this with Tonic.

However, this last installation was with a fairly old batch. That could be a factor.
 

Up&comer

Hall of Fame
Anyone run into this issue with Pacific Classic Gut? I started stringing with it when Babolat Tonic went up in price and have had multiple issues from shearing.

I've never had any issue like that. The only problem I've ever had was the gauge thickness. At the ends it ends up way too think, almost to the point of not being able to get it through the grommet holes on occasion.
 

themitchmann

Hall of Fame
I did buy from TW, but as I said earlier, it was a while ago.

I'm surprised I'm the only one to encounter this problem. Maybe I just got unlucky. I've got a set of Prince Gut on order. If it happens again, maybe I've got an issue with one of my clamps.
 

WilsonPlayer101

Professional
I did buy from TW, but as I said earlier, it was a while ago.

I'm surprised I'm the only one to encounter this problem. Maybe I just got unlucky. I've got a set of Prince Gut on order. If it happens again, maybe I've got an issue with one of my clamps.
When you install the Prince Gut please let us know how you like it. It is from what I read, on par with Babolat VS pre-BT7 coating. That's what I read but you will be a good judge of that. Either in this thread or a whole new discussion please let us know how it plays regardless of the shearing if it is your clamps that cause that. It should still play well. Thanks.
 
I bought 2 sets of Pacific Classic 17 awhile back from TW and figured I was the only one with a bad batch. Use this only as a main string and 1 of the 4 pieces just popped right on the stringing machine near the center of the pull.

I have strung my personal rackets for over twenty years so have done well over 1000 string jobs and this was the first break I ever had while stringing.

The Pacific Classic seemed like a far less refined product than the old BDE Performance gut I had used in the past. Both the Classic and Klip Legend I tested side by side at the time felt dry and stiff to the touch and played too stiff for me even at lower tensions.
 

Uvijek Argen

Semi-Pro
With Pacific(Tough gut copper color) I didn't have shearing, but I did have 2 bad batches in a row, after that I have string a few Tonic's, VS and 1 Mamba premium with no problem.

The pacific bad batches were very dry and the tips were crumbling in my fingers like a cracker. In other word, they were toasty. Right in the first pull they snap. First and only strings that break on me.

I being tempting to try again any of the Pacifics, but Tonic (ball feel) for me is as premium as any VS with their excellent gauge.
 

fortun8son

Hall of Fame
Just about any string can shear from a mishit near the frame. An older, dried out batch of gut would certainly be more likely to do this.
 

themitchmann

Hall of Fame
Just about any string can shear from a mishit near the frame. An older, dried out batch of gut would certainly be more likely to do this.
The concern is that I've strung a number of racquets for both clients without any issues aside from racquets strung with Pacific Classic Gut. They have sheared any string (other than an occassional poly).
 

jim e

Legend
The concern is that I've strung a number of racquets for both clients without any issues aside from racquets strung with Pacific Classic Gut. They have sheared any string (other than an occassional poly).
I understand what you are saying, but I string with VS touch 16g. not only for myself and family but for clients as well, and I have strung a decent amount of nat. gut and with the VS there always is the issue of mis hits causing shearing and snapping. Sometimes it is not even that evident, as a player can have a mis hit nothing happens and later in the bag the string snaps due to the earlier mis hit. You can have a real hard mis hit and nothing happens, later have a light mis hit and the string snaps at the mis hit or sometimes later in the bag because of the shearing of the mis hit. Gut is sensitive to this.

In other words , you can have an all gut set up last for a long long time mis hits and all, and the string finally wears out and breaks normally after a good long while, then restring, have one decent mis hit and the string snaps early either at that mis hit or next time when you use it, or in the bag, all from that mis hit. Its the nature of the beast.Thats the thing about nat. gut, and I tell clients this before I string a nat. gut job so they do not come back to me with this issue.Anyone that strings a good amount of gut should inform the customers of this when they ask for nat. gut as after a while it would come back to you as they would have no idea.
 
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themitchmann

Hall of Fame
I understand what you are saying, but I string with VS touch 16g. not only for myself and family but for clients as well, and I have strung a decent amount of nat. gut and with the VS there always is the issue of mis hits causing shearing and snapping. Sometimes it is not even that evident, as a player can have a mis hit nothing happens and later in the bag the string snaps due to the earlier mis hit. You can have a real hard mis hit and nothing happens, later have a light mis hit and the string snaps at the mis hit or sometimes later in the bag because of the shearing of the mis hit. Gut is sensitive to this.

In other words , you can have an all gut set up last for a long long time mis hits and all, and the string finally wears out and breaks normally after a good long while, then restring, have one decent mis hit and the string snaps early either at that mis hit or next time when you use it, or in the bag, all from that mis hit. Its the nature of the beast.Thats the thing about nat. gut, and I tell clients this before I string a nat. gut job so they do not come back to me with this issue.Anyone that strings a good amount of gut should inform the customers of this when they ask for nat. gut as after a while it would come back to you as they would have no idea.
Thanks. I completely understand. To be honest, I don't do a lot of business with gut. Everything I've done up to the switch to Pacific has not had this issue. I was worried since it is now an issue with 2 different clients.

I, personally, have never used gut in my own sticks (since I string my own and can afford to restring frequently), so it's difficult to assess this as I have no experience breaking gut.
 

jim e

Legend
The NatGut shearing disclaimer is a good idea.
As is the 'dead within 10 hrs' warning for Poly.
A few years back a well known stringer posted on another site that he typically refuses to string a young 2.5 hitter that requests nat. gut without first speaking to a parent, just so the job does not come back to him because the player would not be a clean hitter.Its a good rule to follow as well.
 

fortun8son

Hall of Fame
I couldn't agree more!
I'll give those kids a nice syngut, unless their 'teaching pro' insists on using Duralast! LOL
 

Maui19

Hall of Fame
I've never had any issue like that. The only problem I've ever had was the gauge thickness. At the ends it ends up way too think, almost to the point of not being able to get it through the grommet holes on occasion.
I have seen the thicker ends on a package of Pacific Classic gut recently. First and only time I saw that.
 
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