Pacific Classic Natural Gut string?
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2handsbothsides
Semi-Pro
Pacific Classic is my current main string of choice. Verses X-1 it offers more power with pinpoint control and better tension maintenance. Sweet spot is also larger.
I have had more consistent results with Pacific Classic vs. Klip Legend or Babolat Tonic. I was spoiled by using BDE Performance for many years. Pacific Classic is a bit stiffer but really shines when strung at somewhat lower tension. No need to increase tension when switching to the Classic. Great value when used with a synthetic gut cross like Forten Sweet. This hybrid also beats X-1 at the $15 price point in my opinion.
I have had more consistent results with Pacific Classic vs. Klip Legend or Babolat Tonic. I was spoiled by using BDE Performance for many years. Pacific Classic is a bit stiffer but really shines when strung at somewhat lower tension. No need to increase tension when switching to the Classic. Great value when used with a synthetic gut cross like Forten Sweet. This hybrid also beats X-1 at the $15 price point in my opinion.
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dangros
Rookie
What about a poly user?
I like to use the hurricane tour and pro strings. Needless to say, I like the stiff poly's that give me a lot of spin with my babolat aero pro. Plus, they last forever. Since I have a stringer (i do like to string so durability is not a problem) and can experiment, I was wondering what you guys thought of using GUT? Specifically the different Pacific strings. Since I prefer the thinner gauges, I was eying the Pacific Tough Gut Natural Gut 17. I'm not in short supply of power, so I dont need a trampoline for a string bed. I'm even beginning to think that my pro hurricane is too powerful.
Thanks for any feedback and btw, this forum is fantastic! Kudos to all that participate and make this sport so amazing.
Dan
I like to use the hurricane tour and pro strings. Needless to say, I like the stiff poly's that give me a lot of spin with my babolat aero pro. Plus, they last forever. Since I have a stringer (i do like to string so durability is not a problem) and can experiment, I was wondering what you guys thought of using GUT? Specifically the different Pacific strings. Since I prefer the thinner gauges, I was eying the Pacific Tough Gut Natural Gut 17. I'm not in short supply of power, so I dont need a trampoline for a string bed. I'm even beginning to think that my pro hurricane is too powerful.
Thanks for any feedback and btw, this forum is fantastic! Kudos to all that participate and make this sport so amazing.
Dan
Fedace
Banned
you have to have 50 posts before you are allowed one,, i think.... Pacific gut feel kind of dead. but then some people like that.
vsbabolat
Talk Tennis Guru
Don't listen to fedace. Pacific Gut does not feel dead! Also McEnroe did use Pacific but the Gut he used Pacific no longer makes. It was a GOLD/AMBER color.
Pacific gut is very soft and maintains it's tension very well. The Pacific Classic is a good buy for the money.
I agree, as I used this a while back, and it does not feel dead.(I have to ? what Fedace is commenting on unless he received a bad set).It does remain playable until you break it. I even used it a few times in a decent rainfall, and it held up fine so it is very durable for a nat. gut as well.I just got so use to VS as my regular set up, that I really did not desire to change back for my regular hitting racquets, but the Pacific Classic is a decent gut for the $.
I have their Pacific Blue Spiral (Imperial) gut in one of my extra racquets at the present time, and that is also a very comfortable string, at 62 lbs. in a Head Radical Tour MP.
I received an email from Bow Brand this past month,( they stopped production a while back), that their new nat. gut should be out soon, as they are just testing it out at the present time for durability before it hits the market.Thats another string I will try out.
Pacifics best is the Pacific Prime and that goes for $35.95, and the Blue Spiral comes in 2nd place as far as price for $34.95, and the classic comes in at $26.95. I have used all 3 and I still hit with all VS for the most part, as well as a large % of my gut clients with VS as well.( I am getting use to the Blue Spiral as it feels very soft, even more so than the VS).Classic is still a decent gut,has good feel and comfort, and it does not snap while stringing or in the bag before you hit with it like some other brands(I won't mention the name), talked about here.
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^I was actually talking about Bow Brand...
I do hope that they are correct, and the new Bow Brand comes out soon. I guess it is best that they do verify the durability before it hits the retail market. Thats a lot more than some of the cheaper guts that some of the posters here are using with the early breakage. Bow Brand told me that it should be out in about a month, and they would let me know when it would be available. I still have Bow Brand in an old woodie that I strung up back in 1971, as I remember that year, as that was the last year I hit with the Tad/ Davis racquet.Played with that racquet a few months back, and the strings still held up after all those years!
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McLovin
Legend
This is great news. The last I heard from them was they had lost their supplier & were "actively seeking an alternative supplier". That was from an e-mail exchange I had w/ one of their sales reps back in June.
Lucky for me I got 10 sets at 20% discount before they ran out.
bruce nissenbaum
Rookie
Pre-stretch Pacific Classic?
I'm planning on 2 piece stringing Pacific Classic 17g in PSC 6.1 95 @60/62, same tension as I'm playing biphase x-1, which is very comfortable, provides reasonably controlled power, and has a nice crisp feel. My other reference for this trial will be Babolat Xcel 17@62# (M)/Head FXP 17@60# (X), a very comfortable, resilient combo that provides a nice blend of power and control. The resulting stringbed has a relatively soft yet crisp feel. So far, after all the possibilities I've tried since I've been unable to get Laserfibre Supreme, the x-1 and the excel/fxp combo have proved to be the closest 2 options I've found to be able to get to the confidence level I had with the Supreme. Now I'm wondering where Pacific Classic, what I believe is a 'mid-range' NG for both price and feel, might take me. I pre-stretch x-1, xcel and fxp. Is there any reason I shouldn't plan on pre-stretching Pacific??
I'm planning on 2 piece stringing Pacific Classic 17g in PSC 6.1 95 @60/62, same tension as I'm playing biphase x-1, which is very comfortable, provides reasonably controlled power, and has a nice crisp feel. My other reference for this trial will be Babolat Xcel 17@62# (M)/Head FXP 17@60# (X), a very comfortable, resilient combo that provides a nice blend of power and control. The resulting stringbed has a relatively soft yet crisp feel. So far, after all the possibilities I've tried since I've been unable to get Laserfibre Supreme, the x-1 and the excel/fxp combo have proved to be the closest 2 options I've found to be able to get to the confidence level I had with the Supreme. Now I'm wondering where Pacific Classic, what I believe is a 'mid-range' NG for both price and feel, might take me. I pre-stretch x-1, xcel and fxp. Is there any reason I shouldn't plan on pre-stretching Pacific??
The_Question
Hall of Fame
I don't know how I missed this thread.
First of, do not listen to Fedace. The kid has no idea what he's talking about. He often make posts that have nothing to do with the topic itself.
Second, X-1 is a multifilament synthetics, seriously, no synthetics can compare with gut, even those "gut-like" is uncomparable. I tried Pacific Classic once. It's pretty comfortable and lively upon impact...
First of, do not listen to Fedace. The kid has no idea what he's talking about. He often make posts that have nothing to do with the topic itself.
Second, X-1 is a multifilament synthetics, seriously, no synthetics can compare with gut, even those "gut-like" is uncomparable. I tried Pacific Classic once. It's pretty comfortable and lively upon impact...
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
Let me add to the chorus of "don't listen to Fedace". I've been using Pacific Classic for a few years now. I have found it much more playable and consistent than Klip Legend. It is also a fantastic value. It is very comfortable, pockets great, and has great control & power. Your arm will thank you.
And yes, McEnroe when he was on tour did use Pacific Gold 16. I bought a bunch of sets of it when it was on closeout many moons ago and that's what sold me on Pacific. The durability of the Gold wasn't anything near what today's gut has though, but its playability was superb and it looked good. According to some reports, McEnroe uses Pacific and BDE interchangably.
And yes, McEnroe when he was on tour did use Pacific Gold 16. I bought a bunch of sets of it when it was on closeout many moons ago and that's what sold me on Pacific. The durability of the Gold wasn't anything near what today's gut has though, but its playability was superb and it looked good.
According to some reports, McEnroe uses Pacific and BDE interchangably.
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I had experience with many Pacific and Babolat guts several years ago (Pacific (classic, imperial, and prime) and Babolat (VS Tem and Touch)). Never tried Bow Brand. I can't remember in details how differences they are because I has stop playing tennis for many years due to my spiral problem.
From my memory, Babolat is firmer and more powerful than Pacific. In my country, Pacific prices much cheaper than Babolat. So I often bought Pacific when Babolat broke. I remember that 3 Pacific guts play differently. The Prime is best among them but still inferior to VS Team. IMO, VS Team is the best. But, who knows, you may like Prime more than VS Touch. Personal preference matter.
Never tried X-1
My racquet : Head iPrestige MP
From my memory, Babolat is firmer and more powerful than Pacific. In my country, Pacific prices much cheaper than Babolat. So I often bought Pacific when Babolat broke. I remember that 3 Pacific guts play differently. The Prime is best among them but still inferior to VS Team. IMO, VS Team is the best. But, who knows, you may like Prime more than VS Touch. Personal preference matter.
Never tried X-1
My racquet : Head iPrestige MP
Centered
Hall of Fame
Impossible. Even the stiffest gut is quite a bit softer than the softest poly. In fact, the stiffest gut, according to RSI, is still significantly softer than the softest synthetic, a Pro Kennex Zyex string that's no longer on the market.
Tension Question
Well all my full multi testing has left me still wanting a little more. I am thinking of stringing one stick up with full Pacific Classic 16g but have a question on tension. Due to the cooler temps of late, I have dropped my tension down from 58# to 56#. If stringing up the full gut should I stick with the same tension of 56# or any need to bump it up? My stringer strings on a babolat star 5 and that baby is TIGHT--so 56# is still pretty tight feeling--even with full multi (Mantis/RIP, Intellitour, Dunlop). Temps around here range around the 45-60* mark for reference.
Also--how is the string movement on a full gut setup? When I use Gut/Poly there is very little to any string movement--which I love, especially in my 16x18 pattern!
Well all my full multi testing has left me still wanting a little more. I am thinking of stringing one stick up with full Pacific Classic 16g but have a question on tension. Due to the cooler temps of late, I have dropped my tension down from 58# to 56#. If stringing up the full gut should I stick with the same tension of 56# or any need to bump it up? My stringer strings on a babolat star 5 and that baby is TIGHT--so 56# is still pretty tight feeling--even with full multi (Mantis/RIP, Intellitour, Dunlop). Temps around here range around the 45-60* mark for reference.
Also--how is the string movement on a full gut setup? When I use Gut/Poly there is very little to any string movement--which I love, especially in my 16x18 pattern!
