Pacific rackets - share your experiences

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  1. tapatio

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    Touch and feel is not a problem with the xfp, also hit a lot of drop and angle shots without a problem. Used Isospeed Professional Classic@ 59 lb.
     
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  2. Stevo Karlovic

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    Don't be afraid. Drop shots are tailor-made with this weapon. But seriously, I've hit with every racquet under the sun. This one broke the mold. I never thought I'd live to see the day when a racquet came along that could out-gun a Pure Drive, yet have the same deft touch as my old Fischer FT Pro Number 1. Stringing is very important with this frame to achieve the aforementioned results, however. A full bed of gut or multifilament is just irresponsible and unrealistic. Poly/Gut hybrids provide the most optimal performance, though I'm sure a high-end multifilament will suffice in the crosses. With today's poly's becoming more and more resilient to tension loss, its worth the money for putting gut in the crosses. The best I've experienced so far was XForce 18g @ 55lbs (mains) and Tough Gut 16L 58lbs (crosses), both pre-stretched 20%. Absolute mindblower. :shock:
     
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  3. Ross K

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    What's the verdict then sort of? We're all ready for an update here :)
     
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  4. sortof

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    None as yet, the weather is fine but my partner had to cancel.
     
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  5. BalboaNoah

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    Hi Stevo,

    i just rec'd the demo for the XF Comp. i was on the fence of also trying out the XFast (didn't pull the trigger), but, i seem to play much better with lower-powered rackets. the Comp just seems ripe for weight customization, but, that being said, wanted to get your comparison of the plow-through and maneuverability between the two frames. i like the serve spin action so far with the Comp. is it in the neighborhood of the XFast's? Thanks, in advance, for feedback.
     
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  7. Stevo Karlovic

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    Balboa,

    Considering specifically your statement, " I seem to play much better with lower-powered rackets", I would say you made the correct choice in selecting your demo. I gather you like a buttery feeling racquet for placing your serves, so you will find the Comp far more suitable for this than with the XFast. Perhaps more importantly, the Comp's 105 head size, which also features an open pattern (16x19), will yield endless potential for your "serve spin action." The XFast fires scuds, and 10-foot kickers.

    Lastly, not sure exactly what weight adding your looking to do, but I think the simple additions of a leather grip and overgrip make for the perfect balance/swingweight for an XForce Comp. Brings the frame to the 325-330 gram neighborhood - strung. Good stuff man. :idea:
     
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  8. JackB1

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    Steve....have u tried the Xfast and the XComp? Can u compare the 2 and explain the differences between them?
     
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  9. Ross K

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    Are you able to get hold of an X Fast Pro 100 demo where you are? We need more feedback! :)
     
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  10. JackB1

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    I am not. Would have to get one online. I am very content with my 104, but I AM curious about the XFast.
     
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  11. Stevo Karlovic

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    Hi, I thought I've been describing the differences and similarities between the two in many of my previous posts, but since I hit with both today for a good while, here's a further detailed synopsis:

    Headsize

    XFast - 100
    XForce Comp - 105

    - Not much to add here. The Comp's 105 head size feels noticeably larger than the XFast, not for any better or worse.

    Stiffness/Flex

    XFast - 68 RA
    XForce Comp - 59 RA

    - This is obviously the glaring difference on paper, but its also the most noticeable disparity among the actual feel of both frames. The XFast is stiff. It's not Babolat Pure Drive or Wilson Juice stiff, but its stiff enough to be considered a power frame. It bombs serves. It cranks driving groundstrokes, even if the user is on one foot, falling away from the court. That being said, its got more touch and feel than any power frame I've ever hit with. Rather conversely, the XForce Comp is plush. Control is second to none, with easy access to deftly maneuvered angle shots, drops, and lobs.

    weight (Strung)
    [Both with an over-grip and dampener]

    XFast - 323g (11.2 oz.)
    XForce Comp - 312g (11.0 oz.). (I tried a leather grip on this racquet to make it more head light, and it came in at 322g.)

    More to follow if needed. This paints a pretty clear picture, I believe.
     
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  12. JackB1

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    ^^^^^

    thanks for that. Sounds like the Comp might be more to my liking, since I hit lots of dropper, short slices, lobs and touch shots. Is the power difference very large between the two?
     
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    Played the X Fast today for the first time. My game wasn´t that hot this morning and I had problems to adjust my forehand swing probably due to the weight of this stick because I played mostly with significantly lighter racquets over the last years (I have two Volkl Catapult 4 (1st Gen) both tuned with a bit of lead tape at 12, 9, and 3 though). In fact, after 10 minutes or so I put the X Fast back into the bag and continued with the Volkl. Anyhow, after an hour I felt better and picked up the Pacific again and then actually started to enjoy it. A few preliminary notes (all relative to the Volkl Catapult 4 experience):
    Serve: absolutely great, lot´s of pace but still with good control.
    Serve return: Very nice, especially the blocked/chipped ones.
    Forehand: Still needs adjustment, but the better shots were darn speedy indeed. The net clearance tended to be lower compared to my game with the Volkl. Due to this, even shots with good pace were sometimes a little shorter than usual. I didn´t manage any deep moonball-like spin forehands preferably to the opponents backhand side, which are usually part of my game.
    Backhand: Slice was OKish, but my 2HBH was totally off today regardless of the stick in hand.
     
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  14. JackB1

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    On a related note.....
    Is the XForce Comp the Pacific version of the Fischer Pro 1 105 (UL)? They seem to have almost identical specs and I heard that the ONLY totally redone racquet when Pacific bought out Fischer was the XFast model. The rest were paint-overs.
     
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  16. DustinW

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    Why isn't the X Fast listed on Pacific's website? The rest of their lineup is there, but not the X Fast.
     
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  17. McLovin

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    Because they haven't updated the website in over a year. Unacceptable IMO, but I assume they're working on the next revision & will update when 'BX2' is released worldwide.

    BX2 has been on TW Europe for a few months now...
     
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  18. Ross K

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    Thanks for that. The bolded part would quite possibly be a concern for me.
     
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  19. JackB1

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    Hate to point out the obvious, but the XFast Pro and Volkl Catapult 4 are pretty different...the XFast is almost a full oz. heavier and much more of a "lighter players racquet". It's no wonder you struggled with it right off the bat.
     
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    Absolutely, I have to find out whether I can step up my technique to the level the XFast Pro requires.
     
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  21. El Diablo

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    Had a demo with the X-Fast 100 a few months ago, simply nothing distinctive about it other than its corrugated cardboard feel.
     
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  22. Stevo Karlovic

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    You didn't hit with the XFast Pro 100. Corrugated cardboard is probably the last metaphor in any language that would describe this racquet. You didn't demo the XFast.
     
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  23. Stevo Karlovic

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    Like I've said from the beginning, and I'm not trying to be dismissive, but a full bed of multifilament at 48 lbs. is not realistic for this racquet. I don't care how crisp of a multi you're using, it's just way too much power all-around.
     
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  24. Backhanded Compliment

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    So far Ive found that low tension poly works really well with my pacific/fischers
     
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  25. McLovin

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    Yes. I enjoyed MSV Focus Hex Soft 1.24mm mains, Pacific Poly Force 1.25mm crosses, both at 48lbs, especially on the clay.
     
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  26. Cobra Tennis

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    Loving the bx2 x feel tour. Near specs of a pd, but so much flex and comfort.
     
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  27. o0lunatik

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    Have you hit with the BX1 X Feel Tour? I am just wondering how it compares to the BX2.
     
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  29. tennis4josh

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    Is X Fast Pro a completely new racket or a different layup of an existing Fischer mold?

    -Josh
     
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  30. JackB1

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    Pretty sure it was a new mold and not a copy of a previous Fischer.
     
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  31. Backhanded Compliment

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    Still truly enjoying my X feel pro 95's.... so much feel and I keep thinking about my last match 6-2 7-6 (7,2). During it I served well and really took control of the baseline rallies as well as the net stuff. I can hit a loopier forehand but I can really flatten it out and it just rewards both approaches. Its a variety stick. Same with the backhand... my topspinner is far better than my slice but I found the dwell time of this stick improved my slice. I use it offensively now, not just as a set up... my topspinner has always been offense oriented so all I think this stick added to it is better insideout backhands and better accuracy overall.

    This was all on slow hard courts and the steadyness of the frame is what shines... I can remember vividly the contact with certain strokes... a backhand winner or two... some crazy net moments and the distinct sensation of so much dwell time off of returns. Those returns...

    Basically it is a demanding frame... but the way it feels on even long baseline rallies is addictive. Every time I make contact well it gives me greater confidence in crushing the ball a little more. It has the spin and accuracy. Addictive frame if you are fussy about making clean contact.

    Pacific keep doing this sort of stick for tennis because without frames that have this feel and accuracy it will be lost to the game. Which would be a shame.

    Loving these... after playing for a year with them so far. Switched from the IG prestige MP. Flexier and more comfort with greater amplitude and control but less forgiving
     
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  32. Backhanded Compliment

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    Finally the BX2's are available on TW and widely available in the USA... Anyone care to share their experiences with the new (cough) ones after the long wait?

    So far looks like the same specs for most frames (sweet) and made the X Feel Pro .2 oz lighter (same balance and flex) so it is easier to customize as a platform frame. Incredibly accurate allcourt/pure ball strikers frame.

    I like the new paint jobs
     
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  33. Kevin T

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    Call me when you can get a 4 5/8. :) Seriously, we've been waiting FOREVER and then all Pacific gives us are 4 3/8 sizes!!?? I've primarily been using my Fischer M Pro 1's for years now and have been looking forward to the BX2...guess I'll have to wait a little longer.
     
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  34. Backhanded Compliment

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    Wow... I didnt realize they only sent that one grip size (genuis). I use 4 1/2 but I do have one Fischer M Comp with 4 3/8. I suppose it is easy to swap the grips if you can get ahold of a 4 5/8 kit (shouldnt be that hard and pacific should send those to TW too).
     
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  35. ender666

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    TW has a used X Feel Pro 95 in 4 5/8.
     
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  36. markus666

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    Anyone can share his/her experience with a Pacific pro stock X force TSS?
     
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  37. McLovin

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    No idea. A quick Google search shows a 'Pacific X Force Pro Stock TSS' is an extended 'Pro Stock' frame, except specs say it is 16x19, 100 sq in. That is not a X Force mold (98 sq in, 16x20), but sounds rather like a Fischer Tour/ Pacific X Feel Tour.

    Also, some people in the posts were saying it was an Andre Golubev frame, but that is incorrect. He used the Fischer Rev Pro Classic +1.5mm painted as an X Force Pro (I have 4 of those).

    So...your guess is as good as mine on how it plays. Do you have any pics?
     
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  38. markus666

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    i will pick up the frame today, cannot comment yet how it play. Here one pic
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  39. Crocodile

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    X Feel Pro 95 with weight under the handle and 9 and 3 is one of my favourite feeling racquets.
    The thing with Pacific racquets is getting them, they are hard to source sometimes.
    I also have an X Force Pro which I like as well but not as much as the feel 95.
     
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  40. markus666

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    received some feedback for the seller, seems to be a Pacific X Feel Tour mold, but extended and more stiff, someting like 64 RA instead of 58RA of the Pacific X Feel Tour, so probably has more power. Weight with MSV hex 1.23 and overgrip 327 gr, balance 32.4.
     
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  41. Backhanded Compliment

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    Yeah The X feel pro 95 is super sweet, the most control oriented MP Ive ever used... super low power but precise like a mid with a MP's defensive capability. Lower powered than many mids though.
     
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  42. McLovin

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    Wow, that sounds like an excellent combination. The Magnetic Tour/X Feel Tour, IMO, was too flexible...bordering on a wet noodle. But stiffened up, and some additional length...that sounds like my kind of frame.

    Let us know how it plays. Have you ever hit w/ the Fischer/Pacific Tour line?
     
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  43. SpinToWin

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    I was thinking of demoing the X Fast at some point... Quite like the slight extended length (would prefer +0.5 inches though).
     
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  44. markus666

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    tested few years ago the Pacific X force 295 gr, pacific x force comp and pacific fast pro, and like all of them, but not felt in love to keep playing for long time with any of them.
    Let ´s see with this one, i also belive the specs suit my preferences, will post my opinion asap.
     
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  45. SFrazeur

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    Officially, Pacific lists the X Fasts and Raptor as being 695mm (27.36") long. I have measured them and they are between 27.25" and 27.5"
     
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