PDRGT+ Shoulder Problems

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truetifoso

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Has anyone had any shoulder problems after hitting with either of the Pure Drive Roddicks (standard or plus)?

I denied both over the weekend I LOVE the plus, but my shoulder is wrecked.

I hope this is because of technique and not the racket because I plan on buying a few this week.
 
No shoulder problems with the standard and I've never tried to plus. What racquet do you usually use? If you use a flexible racquet then your shoulder might not be used to a stiff racquet like the PDR.
 
Yes, with the plus. I read all the reviews saying this version was more arm friendly so I bought one and put some X-cel at 56 lbs. It killed my shoulder, it's just too stiff and heavy for me, now I'm hoping I did not do serious damage and I may have to switch to the MG OS radical. However, I am 47, so my shoulder may be a little more fragile than yours.
 
NOPE. no problems here. Been blasting away freely with my PDRGT (with full poly) for more than 6 months with absolutely no arm or shoulder injuries whatsoever.

Overuse (too much playing, not enough recovery time) + poor physical conditioning + flawed technique make up 99.9999% of injury complaints on this board.

It's easier to blame your equipment and change it, than to blame yourself and seek out professional advise on how to correct flawed technique, or improve your physical conditioning.
 
I love the racket. It perfectly compliments my game and is what I've needed for a long time.

I currently use a Wilson K Factor KSix-One 95 (18x20). It's brilliant for control, but I need to make really big cuts to get pace. While I have big, looping strokes anyway, the results versus the PDRGT+ just doesn't compare. The racket doesn't demand as much from me as the Wilson allowing me to slow down my strokes and my overall game. I suffer from a lack of patience, but this racket keeps me in line.

I'm going to buy the PD today and hope that I can work through the shoulder issue.
 
I just got two for my birthday and had full blown tennis elbow (surgery) two years ago, but i love these racquets i hope that they dont cause any pain. That would suuuuuuck.
 
i know too many people (myself included) that have gotten arm/shoulder pain from the Pure Drive line. I've seen the Volkl PB8 or Becker Pro suggested as a more comfortable version of the Pure Drive. Ditto the Dunlop 500 I think.
 
Jack & Coke said:
NOPE. no problems here. Been blasting away freely with my PDRGT (with full poly) for more than 6 months with absolutely no arm or shoulder injuries whatsoever.

Overuse (too much playing, not enough recovery time) + poor physical conditioning + flawed technique make up 99.9999% of injury complaints on this board.

It's easier to blame your equipment and change it, than to blame yourself and seek out professional advise on how to correct flawed technique, or improve your physical conditioning.
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Hogwash, there are dozens of different ways to hit the ball, which technique do you consider "flawed"...eastern forehand ? extreme western ? one handed backhand or two ? Smug assumptions are not helpful...
 
atatu said:
Hogwash, there are dozens of different ways to hit the ball, which technique do you consider "flawed"...eastern forehand ? extreme western ? one handed backhand or two ? Smug assumptions are not helpful...
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think about what you just wrote.. and then re-read my original post.

If you still can't comprehend what I'm saying, let me know.. I'll try to explain it in a different way.
 
I love my roddick gt plus, I don't have any arm problems but then i only play 2 hours 3x a week

Don't the cortex help?
 
I have used the APD original for the last 4 or 5 years and changed to the PDRGT i the summer. I have never had any arm problems in 20 years of playing but since switching my shoulder has twinged. I was using Pro Supex Blue Gear at 60lbs in the PDRGT, having used it at 58 on my APD, I have now dropped the tension to 56 - 58 in an affort to reduce the shock in my arm.

The PDRGT is basically an arm killer, if you are gonna get arm probs with any racket you will get it with the PDRGT, racket plays nice, but reckeon will change again when the APDGT comes out next year, I regret the change i made really, also havent managed to adjust my swing 100% to the PDRGT, never thought i would admit that the APD marketing blx was true but the APD really does swing faster!!!
 
Shoulder pain from one of the stiffest, heavier, longest racquets on the market?

Nooo.... :)

(I love my PDGT, but I know that not every racquet is for everyone).
 
truetifoso said:
Has anyone had any shoulder problems after hitting with either of the Pure Drive Roddicks (standard or plus)?

I denied both over the weekend I LOVE the plus, but my shoulder is wrecked.

I hope this is because of technique and not the racket because I plan on buying a few this week.
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If you want something that hits a similar ball to the PDR but is wrapped in a more arm friendly package, you might look at the Head YT Radical Pro. Very open pattern, hits a deep heavy ball, weighs 337g with an og and full poly so it's around 5g lighter than the PDR. The key is that the Radical has a flex rating of 58 versus the 72 of the PDR and it's very comfy.

I used to use the PDR and loved it but the Radical is hard to beat from the baseline.
 
I hit with my new PDRGT's yesterday, love the rackets but i wanna switch the string pattern (bab tonic in the crosses and prince twisted in the mains strung at 61 lbs) to something else. Any suggestions?
As for arm problems, i used to have really bad tennis elbow and the only pain i felt is in my shoulder muscles, not bones. BUt then again i have only hit with them for one day so far.
 
Shoulder problems often originate from using a racket that's too heavy. Maybe it's too heavy only because your muscles are used to a lighter racket, and they need time to get used to the racket. I have found, personally and through others I string for, that a racket that's too heavy can cause shoulder problems and a racket that's too light can cause elbow problems. Maybe I shouldn't say "cause" problems, but "contribute to" the problems. Also, if you used a lighter racket before, you could probably get away with using a lot of arm in your serves, whereas with a heavier racket, using the same amount of arm in the stroke has stressed it. Truthfully, there are so many variables that could contribute to shoulder problems that eliminating them one by one could take forever.
 
Steve Huff said:
Shoulder problems often originate from using a racket that's too heavy. Maybe it's too heavy only because your muscles are used to a lighter racket, and they need time to get used to the racket. I have found, personally and through others I string for, that a racket that's too heavy can cause shoulder problems and a racket that's too light can cause elbow problems. Maybe I shouldn't say "cause" problems, but "contribute to" the problems. Also, if you used a lighter racket before, you could probably get away with using a lot of arm in your serves, whereas with a heavier racket, using the same amount of arm in the stroke has stressed it. Truthfully, there are so many variables that could contribute to shoulder problems that eliminating them one by one could take forever.
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yeah one thing you said was true it that too heavy racquet can cause shoulder pain e.g. K90 is close 12.5 if you are jumping from 11.1 or something like that.

I had arm problem with PDR+ without cortex version (roddick model was not even in market that time) but no shoulder pain at all. It was around 11.2 in static weight which says a lot considering 12.5 K90 for shoulder.

But 11.2 will cause some arm pain when you are hitting against heavy and fast ball, which can contribute to arm pain.

Just want to put my view...
 
Steve Huff said:
Shoulder problems often originate from using a racket that's too heavy. Maybe it's too heavy only because your muscles are used to a lighter racket, and they need time to get used to the racket. I have found, personally and through others I string for, that a racket that's too heavy can cause shoulder problems and a racket that's too light can cause elbow problems. Maybe I shouldn't say "cause" problems, but "contribute to" the problems. Also, if you used a lighter racket before, you could probably get away with using a lot of arm in your serves, whereas with a heavier racket, using the same amount of arm in the stroke has stressed it. Truthfully, there are so many variables that could contribute to shoulder problems that eliminating them one by one could take forever.
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Thank you.

This is a really insightful post.

I did go from a much lighter racket (Wilson K-Six Factor) to the PDGT plus.

I had tennis elbow with the Wilson and am having minor shoulder pain with the Babolat.

With that being said, this racket is amazing, and I'm going to tough it out in the hopes that my body will learn to work with it. The stick is that good.
 
This is funny, or should I say tragic in a comical way.

The Babolat PD has created more injuries to the average rec player than any other racquet known to mankind - and people still pretend, that it must be their technique..... Come one guys, noone has the perfect technique, not even tour players.

The BABOLAT PD is NOT an arm friendly racquet, not even of you have Roger Federers technique.

While I'm a huge fan of Babolat as a brand, I'm certainly NOT a fan of the TERRORIST ROCKET LAUNCHER, the Pure Drive.

This racquet has caused more elbow and shoulder problems than any other racquet out there.

Instead of buying a frame like this, why don't people just buy a frame like the BABOLAT Pure Storm LIMITED GT or the Pure Storm Tour GT, then set it up with some nice VS NATTY GUT, and feel the natural power of it....And AVOID elbow and shoulder problems.

I played with a couple of very good young players, who used the PD with full poly, and let me tell you, I pushed them around with my Pure Storm GT LIMITED with full VS 17 NATTY GUT, not the other way around.

AVOID full CoPoly and frames like PURE DRIVE, when you pass 30 years of age and at the same time have tendencies to sore shoulder or sore elbow.

It's as simple as that........ Get a control frame like the LIMITED GT or TOUR GT and set them up with some VS NATTY GUT, full job or in a hybrid and feel the natural power and control without pains.
 
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