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1. In 2011 Nadal suddenly didn't play as well on clay ,grass ,HC and in RG,USO,WB as he did just the year before. No it wasn't the competition or peak Djokovic, he just declined.

But 2008 Federer was PEAK. I am telling you 2008 was his ABSOLUTE peak. The competition got better and Peak Nadal happened. And that has absolutely everything to do with why he was losing to players consistently he used to breadatick for fun from 2007 itself.



2.Novak Djokovic loses to Stefanos in Canada before USO triumph , Rafa loses to weakeradatis in Cincy before USO triumph. Doesn't matter , they slaughtered everyone at the Slam.

Federer after a punishing Clay and Grass season loses to Murray in 2006 before USO . Of course he is a Fraud. Forget the USO, this is the ultimate proof of weak era.


3.It's easy to see that Nadal's FH was very lethal in 2010 ,2008,2013 . It has declined now.Maybe he never hit it as well in other years. Djokovic's BHDTL was THE shot of 2011 , he never hit it that well again. It too isn't the same anymore.

But the Federer FH CC? The competition got better , the shot didn't decline the opponents started to stop fearing him.




4. Djokovic could not maintain his 2011 level just in next year, he had to wait 3 more seasons to retain that season long high level. Rafa hasn't ever been able to keep peak world beating level throughout the year , not even in 2010. He has never had two successive peak seasons . Murray never replicated the level he reached in 2012-13.We know this.

However , law of proper Fraudulent states that Federer has spend every moment of his career after 2003 at his peak. Even after his results and style of play esp FH declined in 2007 itself compared to 2004-06.

5. Nadal in his best season (2010 )can lose to non peak DavyDenko,Ivan,Roddick, Lopez , Baghdatis, Garcia Lopez , Melzer and have very soft draw at USO. No matter he really played at high-level. All players he lost to wouldn't have stood a chance in slams against him nor they were really at their best and much past their best stretch.

Federer lost to only Nadal and Murray in 2006.2006 is really overrated. This is utter proof that weak era existed. Older Rafa and Murray would embarass him.
 
1. In 2011 Nadal suddenly didn't play as well on clay ,grass ,HC and in RG,USO,WB as he did just the year before. No it wasn't the competition or peak Djokovic, he just declined.

But 2008 Federer was PEAK. I am telling you 2008 was his ABSOLUTE peak. The competition got better and Peak Nadal happened. And that has absolutely everything to do with why he was losing to players consistently he used to breadatick for fun from 2007 itself.



2.Novak Djokovic loses to Stefanos in Canada before USO triumph , Rafa loses to weakeradatis in Cincy before USO triumph. Doesn't matter , they slaughtered everyone at the Slam.

Federer after a punishing Clay and Grass season loses to Murray in 2006 before USO . Of course he is a Fraud. Forget the USO, this is the ultimate proof of weak era.


3.It's easy to see that Nadal's FH was very lethal in 2010 ,2008,2013 . It has declined now.Maybe he never hit it as well in other years. Djokovic's BHDTL was THE shot of 2011 , he never hit it that well again. It too isn't the same anymore.

But the Federer FH CC? The competition got better , the shot didn't decline the opponents started to stop fearing him.




4. Djokovic could not maintain his 2011 level just in next year, he had to wait 3 more seasons to retain that season long high level. Rafa hasn't ever been able to keep peak world beating level throughout the year , not even in 2010. He has never had two successive peak seasons . Murray never replicated the level he reached in 2012-13.We know this.

However , law of proper Fraudulent states that Federer has spend every moment of his career after 2003 at his peak. Even after his results and style of play esp FH declined in 2007 itself compared to 2004-06.

5. Nadal in his best season (2010 )can lose to non peak DavyDenko,Ivan,Roddick, Lopez , Baghdatis, Garcia Lopez , Melzer and have very soft draw at USO. No matter he really played at high-level. All players he lost to wouldn't have stood a chance in slams against him nor they were really at their best and much past their best stretch.

Federer lost to only Nadal and Murray in 2006.2006 is really overrated. This is utter proof that weak era existed. Older Rafa and Murray would embarass him.

Yes, good summary.
 
1. In 2011 Nadal suddenly didn't play as well on clay ,grass ,HC and in RG,USO,WB as he did just the year before. No it wasn't the competition or peak Djokovic, he just declined.

But 2008 Federer was PEAK. I am telling you 2008 was his ABSOLUTE peak.
No serious Nadal fan has ever said that Nadal was non-peak in 2011. Of course he was at his peak in 2011. And yes, Federer was at his peak most part of 2008 (excluding the first 2 or 3 months).
 
But 2008 Federer was PEAK. I am telling you 2008 was his ABSOLUTE peak.

Of course he was and congrats on bringing up a topic that has never been discussed here before!

One wonders how "peak" Federer only managed to win one slam in 2008 when he was "peak." :unsure: In 2004, 2006 and 2007 he managed to bag three slams a year. One also wonders how Fed was "peak" in 2008 with an anemic (by his lofty standards) season record of 66–15 (81.48%). How in heavens name did he manage 92–5 (94.84%) in 2006, 81–4 (95.29%) in 2005 and 74–6 (92.50%) in 2004? All "non peak" years.

Amazing. Check your profile, you were 8 years old in 2008 but speak with tremendous omniscience on this subject. Again, utterly amazing!
 
1. In 2011 Nadal suddenly didn't play as well on clay ,grass ,HC and in RG,USO,WB as he did just the year before. No it wasn't the competition or peak Djokovic, he just declined.

But 2008 Federer was PEAK. I am telling you 2008 was his ABSOLUTE peak. The competition got better and Peak Nadal happened. And that has absolutely everything to do with why he was losing to players consistently he used to breadatick for fun from 2007 itself.



2.Novak Djokovic loses to Stefanos in Canada before USO triumph , Rafa loses to weakeradatis in Cincy before USO triumph. Doesn't matter , they slaughtered everyone at the Slam.

Federer after a punishing Clay and Grass season loses to Murray in 2006 before USO . Of course he is a Fraud. Forget the USO, this is the ultimate proof of weak era.


3.It's easy to see that Nadal's FH was very lethal in 2010 ,2008,2013 . It has declined now.Maybe he never hit it as well in other years. Djokovic's BHDTL was THE shot of 2011 , he never hit it that well again. It too isn't the same anymore.

But the Federer FH CC? The competition got better , the shot didn't decline the opponents started to stop fearing him.




4. Djokovic could not maintain his 2011 level just in next year, he had to wait 3 more seasons to retain that season long high level. Rafa hasn't ever been able to keep peak world beating level throughout the year , not even in 2010. He has never had two successive peak seasons . Murray never replicated the level he reached in 2012-13.We know this.

However , law of proper Fraudulent states that Federer has spend every moment of his career after 2003 at his peak. Even after his results and style of play esp FH declined in 2007 itself compared to 2004-06.

5. Nadal in his best season (2010 )can lose to non peak DavyDenko,Ivan,Roddick, Lopez , Baghdatis, Garcia Lopez , Melzer and have very soft draw at USO. No matter he really played at high-level. All players he lost to wouldn't have stood a chance in slams against him nor they were really at their best and much past their best stretch.

Federer lost to only Nadal and Murray in 2006.2006 is really overrated. This is utter proof that weak era existed. Older Rafa and Murray would embarass him.
Doesn't matter how many paragraphs you write, it doesn't change the facts.

As a Federer and Nadal fan, I know Wimbledon 2008 was the greatest match ever, where absolute PEAK Federer was EXPOSED by Nadal on his best surface and Nadal's worst. And Nadal should've won in straights as well, he just choked.

Likewise, I've been reliably informed by tennis scholars Lew and ABCD that Federer was at his peak between Wimbledon 2015 and Australian Open 2016, coincidently happening at the same time as Djokovic's. We all saw how that turned out. Career inflaterer was shown for what he is.

Fraud is a quality junkballer who lucked his way to the top during a transition era. He makes up for his relative lack of talent with a good work ethic and a scrappy style of play.
 
Of course he was and congrats on bringing up a topic that has never been discussed here before!

One wonders how "peak" Federer only managed to win one slam in 2008 when he was "peak." :unsure: In 2004, 2006 and 2007 he managed to bag three slams a year. One also wonders how Fed was "peak" in 2008 with an anemic (by his lofty standards) season record of 66–15 (81.48%). How in heavens name did he manage 92–5 (94.84%) in 2006, 81–4 (95.29%) in 2005 and 74–6 (92.50%) in 2004? All "non peak" years.

Amazing. Check your profile, you were 8 years old in 2008 but speak with tremendous omniscience on this subject. Again, utterly amazing!
Reread.
 
The Big3 won last 8 slams, with the older two winning 6.

They had ups and downs, but they've all been able to play their best tennis since 2011.
 
Amazing. Check your profile, you were 8 years old in 2008 but speak with tremendous omniscience on this subject. Again, utterly amazing!

Also , it seems Fred never won 20 slams. He has just pull a Fraud and made everyone believe that he did. I want a full fledged FBI investigation into it .Even a team of social researchers can study the subject. The extent to which the masses believe this lie is baffling.

Anyways, 2003-07 belong to pre dinosaur ages. Eminent Scholars of TTW only have stats to discuss the era. But these blessed souls are already aware of the Fraudery. So any stat that favours Federer, is thoroughly deconstructed and re imagined (without a single drop of bias) into something that reflects the truth, that he just was a weak era vulture.
 
1. In 2011 Nadal suddenly didn't play as well on clay ,grass ,HC and in RG,USO,WB as he did just the year before. No it wasn't the competition or peak Djokovic, he just declined.

But 2008 Federer was PEAK. I am telling you 2008 was his ABSOLUTE peak. The competition got better and Peak Nadal happened. And that has absolutely everything to do with why he was losing to players consistently he used to breadatick for fun from 2007 itself.



2.Novak Djokovic loses to Stefanos in Canada before USO triumph , Rafa loses to weakeradatis in Cincy before USO triumph. Doesn't matter , they slaughtered everyone at the Slam.

Federer after a punishing Clay and Grass season loses to Murray in 2006 before USO . Of course he is a Fraud. Forget the USO, this is the ultimate proof of weak era.


3.It's easy to see that Nadal's FH was very lethal in 2010 ,2008,2013 . It has declined now.Maybe he never hit it as well in other years. Djokovic's BHDTL was THE shot of 2011 , he never hit it that well again. It too isn't the same anymore.

But the Federer FH CC? The competition got better , the shot didn't decline the opponents started to stop fearing him.




4. Djokovic could not maintain his 2011 level just in next year, he had to wait 3 more seasons to retain that season long high level. Rafa hasn't ever been able to keep peak world beating level throughout the year , not even in 2010. He has never had two successive peak seasons . Murray never replicated the level he reached in 2012-13.We know this.

However , law of proper Fraudulent states that Federer has spend every moment of his career after 2003 at his peak. Even after his results and style of play esp FH declined in 2007 itself compared to 2004-06.

5. Nadal in his best season (2010 )can lose to non peak DavyDenko,Ivan,Roddick, Lopez , Baghdatis, Garcia Lopez , Melzer and have very soft draw at USO. No matter he really played at high-level. All players he lost to wouldn't have stood a chance in slams against him nor they were really at their best and much past their best stretch.

Federer lost to only Nadal and Murray in 2006.2006 is really overrated. This is utter proof that weak era existed. Older Rafa and Murray would embarass him.

Is someone working on their fraudulent sarcasm again?
 
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'Peak Federer' is an amalgam of different years of Federer. Perhaps his 2015 serve, 2005 athleticism, aggressiveness of 2017 and the backhand is his best version. To say Federer was at his peak as a player in 2008 considering how defensive he was is silly. His footwork was so amazing he dominated in spite of his defensive approach for years.
 
How does winning his "last ever" USO help your argument at all?

In 2018 he probably won his last ever AO and reached #1. He must have been at his peak then too!
Fallacy of bad analogy. At the AO 2018, Mr. Federer was 36 years old. At the US Open 2008, Mr. Federer was 27 years old.
 
2008 Federer was 26 years old, didn't lose any single set before the Wimbledon 2008 final and won his last ever US Open. Of course, he was at his peak.

Any more excuses?

In the Wimbledon final itself he played tentatively and poorly vs Nadal for 2 sets, worse than 2007 in every aspect which was a step below 03-06. He did very well to fight back to 5 sets.

USO SF/F had some peak level form I’d agree with that he was firing off both sides.

Not to mention his countless losses to mugs all season.
 
Also this thread proves nobody reads beyond the first 3 lines on this forum. They just assume rest of the post. Such genius.

People this thread wasn't only about 2008 being Federer's peak . It also proves weak era theory beyond doubt and exposes Federer for the weak era champion he is.

Admittedly, I begin reading posts in the middle. If it looks good I’ll start at the beginning, if not I’ll skip to the end. It’s my Zen reading habit, borne from years of dry geology essays. If you’ve ever read a paper on geology you want nothing to do with the beginning.

You quickly learn the only way to not slit your wrists in the bathtub is to avoid opening paragraphs like “Today, I’m going to prove the metallurgical content of quartz in the Meso Saharan strata comes from wandering nomads in the 1500’s washing cooking utensils.”

It’s also why I dispense saying anything remotely important in the first three lines. I enjoy torturing people with pointless distraction right to the end, ensuring those that mange to crawl their way to the finish line wont just have understood what I probably meant, but are generally willing to agree with anything in hopes of getting as far away as is possible from future posts. I have learned well from the Chinese.
 
His decline was so massive he still reached 8 slam finals in a row:unsure::unsure:

Maybe just Maybe he also reached 10 GS straight finals before ? A guy who not only can do that but win 8/10 then only does 4/8. Maybe he was just so good that even after decline he reached so many finals yet because of decline lost more ?Can a significant drop in season winning percentage, and in results, uncharacteristic losses to players he used to own, loopier and less lethal FH point to something called decline?
Rocket science ,no? Earth shattering life changing concept for an " @Objective observer"
 
Maybe just Maybe he also reached 10 GS straight finals before ? A guy who not only can do that but win 8/10 then only does 4/8. Maybe he was just so good that even after decline he reached so many finals yet because of decline lost more ?Can a significant drop in season winning percentage, and in results, uncharacteristic losses to players he used to own, loopier and less lethal FH point to something called decline?
Rocket science ,no? Earth shattering life changing concept for an " @Objective observer"

Maybe he declined a little bit but not as much as is claimed

Also he lost more to players outside slams but still reached all the finals in the slams
 
Admittedly, I begin reading posts in the middle. If it looks good I’ll start at the beginning, if not I’ll skip to the end. It’s my Zen reading habit, borne from years of dry geology essays. If you’ve ever read a paper on geology you want nothing to do with the beginning.

You quickly learn the only way to not slit your wrists in the bathtub is to avoid opening paragraphs like “Today, I’m going to prove the metallurgical content of quartz in the Meso Saharan strata comes from wandering nomads in the 1500’s washing cooking utensils.”

It’s also why I dispense saying anything remotely important in the first three lines. I enjoy torturing people with pointless distraction right to the end, ensuring those that mange to crawl their way to the finish line wont just have understood what I probably meant, but are generally willing to agree with anything in hopes of getting as far away as is possible from future posts. I have learned well from the Chinese.

I too read just first 4-5 lines of your post.
 
Peak Federer:

Serve: 2009
Forehand: 2004
Backhand DTL: 2006
Backhand CC: 2017 AO-Miami
Volleying: 2015
Movement: 2003

I think it should be:
Serve : 2015
Forehand : 2004
Backhand (Overall ) : Late 2006
Movement : 2004-05
Volleying : Early Fred was very good
Explosiveness : 2005
Defense : 2004

Hair : 2012
Dorkiness : Early Pony tail Fred
Arrogance : 2010 AO F Post match PC.
Saltiness ; USO 2011 SF Press Conference
Choking : 2009 AO or 2009 USO
 
1. In 2011 Nadal suddenly didn't play as well on clay ,grass ,HC and in RG,USO,WB as he did just the year before. No it wasn't the competition or peak Djokovic, he just declined.

But 2008 Federer was PEAK. I am telling you 2008 was his ABSOLUTE peak. The competition got better and Peak Nadal happened. And that has absolutely everything to do with why he was losing to players consistently he used to breadatick for fun from 2007 itself.



2.Novak Djokovic loses to Stefanos in Canada before USO triumph , Rafa loses to weakeradatis in Cincy before USO triumph. Doesn't matter , they slaughtered everyone at the Slam.

Federer after a punishing Clay and Grass season loses to Murray in 2006 before USO . Of course he is a Fraud. Forget the USO, this is the ultimate proof of weak era.


3.It's easy to see that Nadal's FH was very lethal in 2010 ,2008,2013 . It has declined now.Maybe he never hit it as well in other years. Djokovic's BHDTL was THE shot of 2011 , he never hit it that well again. It too isn't the same anymore.

But the Federer FH CC? The competition got better , the shot didn't decline the opponents started to stop fearing him.




4. Djokovic could not maintain his 2011 level just in next year, he had to wait 3 more seasons to retain that season long high level. Rafa hasn't ever been able to keep peak world beating level throughout the year , not even in 2010. He has never had two successive peak seasons . Murray never replicated the level he reached in 2012-13.We know this.

However , law of proper Fraudulent states that Federer has spend every moment of his career after 2003 at his peak. Even after his results and style of play esp FH declined in 2007 itself compared to 2004-06.

5. Nadal in his best season (2010 )can lose to non peak DavyDenko,Ivan,Roddick, Lopez , Baghdatis, Garcia Lopez , Melzer and have very soft draw at USO. No matter he really played at high-level. All players he lost to wouldn't have stood a chance in slams against him nor they were really at their best and much past their best stretch.

Federer lost to only Nadal and Murray in 2006.2006 is really overrated. This is utter proof that weak era existed. Older Rafa and Murray would embarass him.
Absolutely and utterly nondense!
Some players are consistent others are not.
These doping insinuations are truly shameful.
Maybe some dont know, but all topsport competing men and women, including tennis players, are controlled by official doping authority in AND OUTOFF competition.:mad:
 
Absolutely and utterly nondense!
Some players are consistent others are not.
These doping insinuations are truly shameful.
Maybe some dont know, but all topsport competing men and women, including tennis players, are controlled by official doping authority in AND OUTOFF competition.:mad:
He didn't cast any doping insinuations
 
Absolutely and utterly nondense!
Some players are consistent others are not.
These doping insinuations are truly shameful.
Maybe some dont know, but all topsport competing men and women, including tennis players, are controlled by official doping authority in AND OUTOFF competition.:mad:
Your post is proof that alternate dimensions exist and people walk in and out of them by accident. Because at least in this dimension my post didn't have anything remotely close to doping allegations.
 
Fed’s peak was during the 2nd half of 2018. The rest of the tennis world caught up. Just look at how much better Fed’s footwork in 2018 was compared to 2004. Look at it this way. Fed has a huge advantage because he was been training longer than everybody else in the top 100 since he’s the oldest player left. The tennis world has simply caught up.

Fed is taller and stronger too. In 2004, Fed was 5 ft 3, 100 lbs. now, he’s 5’ ft 7, 140.

All of the greats of the game that respect the sport have called Federer a weak era fraud. They have respectfully subtracted slam titles from Fed. They do this because they have personally time-machined Nishikori back to Safin’s prime. Nishikori slugged 2005 AO champ Safin off of the Rebound Ace court without losing a single game.
 
Fed’s peak was during the 2nd half of 2018. The rest of the tennis world caught up. Just look at how much better Fed’s footwork in 2018 was compared to 2004. Look at it this way. Fed has a huge advantage because he was been training longer than everybody else in the top 100 since he’s the oldest player left. The tennis world has simply caught up.

Fed is taller and stronger too. In 2004, Fed was 5 ft 3, 100 lbs. now, he’s 5’ ft 7, 140.

All of the greats of the game that respect the sport have called Federer a weak era fraud. They have respectfully subtracted slam titles from Fed. They do this because they have personally time-machined Nishikori back to Safin’s prime. Nishikori slugged 2005 AO champ Safin off of the Rebound Ace court without losing a single game.

Well, it's obvious Federer's era was weak when his main rivals were Montanes, Monaco, Berlocq, Starace, and baby Benneteau.

Easy to win slams when you're playing those choking mugs.
 
The Big3 won last 8 slams, with the older two winning 6.

They had ups and downs, but they've all been able to play their best tennis since 2011.

The craziest part is how this has happened when in 2014 you had Dimitrov and Raonic make semifinals at Wimbledon and Nishikori and Cilic make the USO final. Then Nadal doesn't win the French or make any Slam semifinals 2015-2016 while Federer suffers a serious injury to end his 2016. Wawrinka and Murray pick up the slack and we're near 14 years with only 7 different Slam champions with 2 having 1. Unreal.
 
I too read just first 4-5 lines of your post.

It’s why we get along. With most people in here I have to stop writing after 2-3 lines.

Absolutely and utterly nondense!
Some players are consistent others are not.
These doping insinuations are truly shameful.
Maybe some dont know, but all topsport competing men and women, including tennis players, are controlled by official doping authority in AND OUTOFF competition.:mad:

“nondense” is an interesting word. I’m going to borrow it. It’ll be helpful for my conversations with sureshs.
 
The craziest part is how this has happened when in 2014 you had Dimitrov and Raonic make semifinals at Wimbledon and Nishikori and Cilic make the USO final. Then Nadal doesn't win the French or make any Slam semifinals 2015-2016 while Federer suffers a serious injury to end his 2016. Wawrinka and Murray pick up the slack and we're near 14 years with only 7 different Slam champions with 2 having 1. Unreal.

Back in 2014 , I honestly believed Dimitrov , Nishikori and Cilic would win slams in the coming years. Five years later only Cilic has done something remotely decent on Slam level. Dimitrov has WTF but nothing else really. Nishikori is just Nishikori. God knows even Tennis world will forget them completely as the NEXT GEN arrives
 
2008 Federer was 26 years old, didn't lose any single set before the Wimbledon 2008 final and won his last ever US Open. Of course, he was at his peak.

Any more excuses?
2008 Federer was 26,5 to 27,5.

And lmao at "Federer was 26 when he lost to Nadal at Wimbledon". Well yeah that was his last match before his 27th birthday, totally closer to 26 than 27.
 
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