Peak Medvedev vs Peak Hewitt

Who wins on HC?

  • Peak Hewitt

    Votes: 53 50.0%
  • Peak Medvedev

    Votes: 53 50.0%

  • Total voters
    106

Third Serve

G.O.A.T.
Can’t see Medvedev laying a 7-6 6-1 6-1 smackdown to any version of a player on the level of Sampras in a Slam final.

Even disregarding that, Hewitt has shown a clearly higher level in each of the four Slams imo

Med would need to be really strong on serve to win.
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
Serve: Medvedev
FH: Medvedev
BH: Hewitt
RoS: Medvedev
Net: Medvedev?
Movement: Tie
Defense: Medvedev (second best defender I’ve ever seen on HC)
Grit/Mentality: Hewitt by a mile currently
Overall: Hewitt for now but I see Med winning many more titles in next decade and dwarfing Hewitt…
 

Vicious49

Hall of Fame
Serve: Medvedev
FH: Medvedev
BH: Hewitt
RoS: Medvedev
Net: Medvedev?
Movement: Tie
Defense: Medvedev (second best defender I’ve ever seen on HC)
Grit/Mentality: Hewitt by a mile currently
Overall: Hewitt for now but I see Med winning many more titles in next decade and dwarfing Hewitt…
Who was the 1st best defender?
 
Serve: Medvedev
FH: Medvedev
BH: Hewitt
RoS: Medvedev
Net: Medvedev?
Movement: Tie
Defense: Medvedev (second best defender I’ve ever seen on HC)
Grit/Mentality: Hewitt by a mile currently
Overall: Hewitt for now but I see Med winning many more titles in next decade and dwarfing Hewitt…
There is literally nothing that Hewitt was doing better than Medvedev is doing it now. Medvedev is basically 20 centimetres higher version of Hewitt. He is bigger, faster, stronger, defends better, better groundstrokes, better at counterpunching, better at everything. And this thread has huge bumping potential, and some of the posters could be ridiculed with no end by some future generations of TTW posters. Lol
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
There is literally nothing that Hewitt was doing better than Medvedev is doing it now. Medvedev is basically 20 centimetres higher version of Hewitt. He is bigger, faster, stronger, defends better, better groundstrokes, better at counterpunching, better at everything. And this thread has huge bumping potential, and some of the posters could be ridiculed with no end by some future generations of TTW posters. Lol
Nothing
Little guy would have to run his ass off to death to bring down these big strong guys
Mythology.
Hewitt had his day and it would not be today!
 

tudwell

Legend
Serve: Medvedev
FH: Medvedev
BH: Hewitt
RoS: Medvedev
Net: Medvedev?
Movement: Tie
Defense: Medvedev (second best defender I’ve ever seen on HC)
Grit/Mentality: Hewitt by a mile currently
Overall: Hewitt for now but I see Med winning many more titles in next decade and dwarfing Hewitt…
I would very much disagree on some of these. Hewitt is demonstrably the better returner and as incredible as Medvedev’s movement is for a guy his size, he’s just not as agile as Hewitt.

Hewitt also the more comfortable up at net, though Medvedev’s not bad there most of the time, despite looking so awkward. I agree Medvedev has the edge on the forehand – he has a little better top-end power and I feel his forehand is a bit more dynamic when it comes to varying spin and pace and angle – but in general they both have flat, deep forehands that they struggle to inject true point-ending pace into, so the gap isn’t enormous.

I can see defense going to Medvedev because I do think he has the better racquet skills on the stretch. Serve and backhand are obvious.
 
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Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Lol. Hewitt had a hall of fame career by the time he was Meddy current age. Hewitt would make Meddy look like a mental scrub. What is going on here? This place has lost its mind :-D :laughing: :giggle:
Yes, and then injuries took him out and of course Federer. The question is not what Medvedev has done to this point. It's what he will do over the course of his career. And the truth is we don't know. Which is why @Spencer Gore says you cannot know whether it is a weak era until after a player's career has finished. I don't agree entirely with that assessment, but I do think it is possible (although I wouldn't personally bet on it) that Medvedev could in the end have a career almost as good as Hewitt.

Is he there today? No, certainly not.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Serve: Medvedev
FH: Medvedev
BH: Hewitt
RoS: Medvedev
Net: Medvedev?
Movement: Tie
Defense: Medvedev (second best defender I’ve ever seen on HC)
Grit/Mentality: Hewitt by a mile currently
Overall: Hewitt for now but I see Med winning many more titles in next decade and dwarfing Hewitt…
Lol the only thing Med has is a better serve. Massive Lol at giving him RoS.
 

tudwell

Legend
Has Medvedev reached his peak? Do we know?
Well, we don’t know, but unless he retools his technique on some shots, especially the forehand, I think we’ve probably seen the highest level he can reach. The main question is how often he can bring that high level to the business end of slams and how consistent he can get in maintaining that level. He’s had some exceptional runs on hard court already, and as the Big 3 disappear he might even manage some longer, more dominant streaks. So we definitely haven’t seen the peak of his results, but we may have seen the peak of his actual playing level.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Well, we don’t know, but unless he retools his technique on some shots, especially the forehand, I think we’ve probably seen the highest level he can reach. The main question is how often he can bring that high level to the business end of slams and how consistent he can get in maintaining that level. He’s had some exceptional runs on hard court already, and as the Big 3 disappear he might even manage some longer, more dominant streaks. So we definitely haven’t seen the peak of his results, but we may have seen the peak of his actual playing level.
The only person who has had great success against him this year is Djokovic. I'm not sure retooling is necessary, yet. The trick is waiting out the Big 3 while also not losing his edge against the others.
 

tudwell

Legend
The only person who has had great success against him this year is Djokovic. I'm not sure retooling is necessary, yet. The trick is waiting out the Big 3 while also not losing his edge against the others.
Well true, I think he could be the dominant hard court player even without retooling anything. But adding a little easier power on the forehand side is one obvious way he could start winning a lot more points more comfortably, even just routine serve+1 stuff. If he does in fact do something like that, then we may not have seen his peak level yet.
 

daggerman

Hall of Fame
What does "peak" even mean? Anybody can aim for the lines for one match, not miss, and win the match against anybody.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
What does "peak" even mean? Anybody can aim for the lines for one match, not miss, and win the match against anybody.
It can mean whatever you want, but for me it is usually means well before the injuries or when you've lost a step or two (Agassi and Djokovic are the exceptions), and not when you are still having your breakthrough tournaments (Becker is the exception).
 

Blahovic

Semi-Pro
Yeah that's why a 170 cm guy made WTF in '20
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe no player under 183cm has won a slam since Gaudio in 2004.

Slam winners since then in order of height:

1) Cilic/Delpo
2) Safin
3) Murray
4) Djokovic
5) Federer/Nadal/Thiem
6) Wawrinka

The smallest slam winners in the last 17 years are Wawrinka + Federer/Nadal/Thiem. These are all guys with unbelievable offensive power and great defence. The game has changed.
 
Peak Federer bagelled Hewitt 5 times in 2004
Twice in USO final
That's what you call a lesson about peakness.. Lol
The guy was player with great limitations who was lucky to be at the right place in the right time and vultured two slams in one of the weakest periods of all time. You have to be a Fed zealot of the highest order to think that a weaponless pushing short man like Hewitt is better at anything tennis related than Medvedev. ;)
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe no player under 183cm has won a slam since Gaudio in 2004.

Slam winners since then in order of height:

1) Cilic/Delpo
2) Safin
3) Murray
4) Djokovic
5) Federer/Nadal/Thiem
6) Wawrinka

The smallest slam winners in the last 17 years are Wawrinka + Federer/Nadal/Thiem. These are all guys with unbelievable offensive power and great defence. The game has changed.
To quote our friend Rick...

Murray.

Unbelievable offensive power.

Pick one :laughing:
 

Blahovic

Semi-Pro
Being a tall grinder is apparently evolution lol.
Of course it's an evolution. If a player doesn't miss from the back of the court and moves great, they're a nightmare to play just for that alone. If they can also serve 130-140mph consistently, with the height to create tricky angles and trajectories, then that becomes a much bigger nightmare.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Of course it's an evolution. If a player doesn't miss from the back of the court and moves great, they're a nightmare to play just for that alone. If they can also serve 130-140mph consistently, with the height to create tricky angles and trajectories, then that becomes a much bigger nightmare.
Except that Medvedev's actual ballstriking isn't that great, his movement while great for his height isn't at an ATG standard because he lacks the agility and footwork of a guy like Hewitt. Yes he has big serve but that's the only stroke advantage he has...
 
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