Peak Medvedev vs Peak Hewitt

Who wins on HC?

  • Peak Hewitt

    Votes: 53 50.0%
  • Peak Medvedev

    Votes: 53 50.0%

  • Total voters
    106

NatF

Bionic Poster
Because majority of them haven't watched Hewitt, there is no other explanation.
So many bizarre takes lol. Guys like Federer and for a while Moya gave Hewitt trouble, you know guys with big heavy forehands. Medvedev with his flat strokes is hitting the exact ball Hewitt likes.
 
I decided to look up Med loses especially on HC as that is the only surface he is great on and he’s only lost 5 matches in the last year.
Djokovic, PCB, RBA and Lajovic. All of them don’t play the way you are saying.
The other loss is too Rublev which does but considering the H2H is 5-1 I don’t think he has trouble with him
There are no strong players who play this way anymore except Djokovic on a good day, simple. Yeah passive grinders bother Dani as well since he can't overpower them.
 

Martin J

Professional
So many bizarre takes lol. Guys like Federer and for a while Moya gave Hewitt trouble, you know guys with big heavy forehands. Medvedev with his flat strokes is hitting the exact ball Hewitt likes.
Yeah, I also believe he would counterpunch Meddy to death eventually, unless Med has an incredibly good serving day, though Hewitt was a great returner as well. Even Delpo, a guy with more power than Daniil, had troubles with Hewitt.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
There are no strong players who play this way anymore except Djokovic on a good day, simple. Yeah passive grinders bother Dani as well since he can't overpower them.
I don’t think many players bother Med on HC he can counter a hard hitter and is too solid for grinders. He has them loses but 5 over 52 weeks on HC with 2 masters, WTF, AO Final and a USO title shows he is simply too solid all round for most
 
It's really important that Djoker wins couple of more slams and thus putting the Goat debate to bed. Otherwise we will never hear the end of it about Peak Fed and his mythical minions beating the hell out of every past present and future tennis generation out there. :( Please Djokovic do your work, humanity needs you!:(
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
Yesterday was probably the worst Novak ever returned in a slam final. One break at the very end which was basically donated because Medvedev was rattled by the crowd. Medvedev was serving very well, but not that well. He won like 76% of his second serve points, minus double faults. That's unheard of for Novak.

Hewitt in 01, 02, 04, or 05 could certainly return better than that. Whether that's enough to beat Medvedev overall, I don't know, but acting like Hewitt can't perform better than one of Novak's all-time worst performances is silly.
Every proactive player who can consistently execute an attacking gameplan is a tough matchup for madlad lol.
How did that work out for Opelka in Canada?
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
Wait, what does 33 years old Nadal have to do in a comparison with the only guy to beat 2004-2007 Fed off clay? :D
Nadal vs Meds match showed Nadals level is higher today than in the past on HCs versus in the past where a 27yo Hewitt
at the 2008 Olympics could only manage a breadstick and a half a pretzel 6-1, 6-2.

Safin was injury riddled like Hewitt both have 7-7 H2H yet Safin never gave Bagels to Fed so often.

2 Bagels in 3 sets to Fed at the USO semi where in the Final 35 yo old Agassi pushed Fed all the way
after 3 x 5 set matches from the 4th round to his semi finals. USO scores count plenty in this comparison.

We will see where Meds career heads in time as the old guard is about to retire or similar transition period
as Hewitt had in 2001/02 but this time is very drawn out as the top 3 want to reach more than 20 slams.
Well at least 2 still have the chance but I see Nadal having more chance at 14 RGs than Nole getting 10 AOs.
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
It's really important that Djoker wins couple of more slams and thus putting the Goat debate to bed. Otherwise we will never hear the end of it about Peak Fed and his mythical minions beating the hell out of every past present and future tennis generation out there. :( Please Djokovic do your work, humanity needs you!:(
Hue of men aka Humans ( Monsters in past English Dictionary references ) do need him,
while Mankind is doing well and continue to do so enslaving Humans :(

14RGs for Nadal is more likely than 10AOs for Nole, just a feeling but glad to be proven wrong
and see both men 21-21 and fighting it out at Wimby and the USO again.
 

FD3S

Hall of Fame
How did that work out for Opelka in Canada?
Opelka's options outside the serve are very limited; the height that makes him so dominant in his service games hurts him immensely when it comes to maneuverability and movement. While he certainly has the firepower to give anyone a rough time when he can get set up to attack, he has issues getting set up to begin with once he starts getting moved around, something that only gets exacerbated the longer points and matches go on. He's a hard worker by all accounts but all the hard work in the world won't ever make him fleet of foot compared to players shorter than him. Blake once said he moved pretty well for a guy that was 7 feet tall (technically 6'11 but we know what he meant), but moving 'pretty well' for 6'11 and moving 'pretty well' for say, 6'2 are two very different things. He's also not a particularly effective returner at the best of times.
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
Opelka with simpler return technique and practice along with a little more patience could do very well for his size.
Opelka is a nice guy but has anger issues that are aimed more at himself and sometimes to others.
If he can learn to displace that anger and improve his concentration, he could really bother everyone just like Delpo
but with a better serve than the Tower of Tandil. Gonzo and Lendl did best when they employed Stefanki.
Patience is lacking in the whole tour really but as racquets make more power, patience is difficult in ATP houmou conditions
where the aggressors get rewarded less than Droners.
 
Nadal vs Meds match showed Nadals level is higher today than in the past on HCs versus in the past where a 27yo Hewitt
at the 2008 Olympics could only manage a breadstick and a half a pretzel 6-1, 6-2.

Safin was injury riddled like Hewitt both have 7-7 H2H yet Safin never gave Bagels to Fed so often.

2 Bagels in 3 sets to Fed at the USO semi where in the Final 35 yo old Agassi pushed Fed all the way
after 3 x 5 set matches from the 4th round to his semi finals. USO scores count plenty in this comparison.

We will see where Meds career heads in time as the old guard is about to retire or similar transition period
as Hewitt had in 2001/02 but this time is very drawn out as the top 3 want to reach more than 20 slams.
Well at least 2 still have the chance but I see Nadal having more chance at 14 RGs than Nole getting 10 AOs.
2008 was the first year since 1997 Hewitt didn' win a title. Hewitt was the whole year in pain, and had to get a hip surgery that same year after the olympics, because his injury worsened during the olympics.
Nadal and Hewitt only shared the year 2005 as top players (it was the last year Hewitt qualified to the masters cup) In 2006 Hewitt was getting eliminated from slams by Chela and Arnaud Clement
Still, Hewitt could make world number 2 Nadal sweat during a match. Hewitt took Nadal to 4 sets in Roland Garros 2006 (as much as Roger), and he got close to beating Nadal on clay in Hamburg in 2007


2007 ATP Masters 1000 Hamburg
Germany
Outdoor Clay SF Rafael Nadal 26 63 75


may not seem like much, but few people didn't get completely destroyed by Nadal on clay in that period
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Peak Hewitt could not beat Safin at home with the whole stadium on his side
and would never beat this level of Meds or Nadal 2 years ago at the USO final.
David Nalbandian vs Hewitth wimby was similar to how Novak played at this final.
Watch extended highlights of Meds vs Rafa a few years ago, brilliant tennis not
of Hewitt caliber but loved Hewitt beating Kuerten, Fed and others in their home soil.
LOLOLOLLLL
That was peak Safin who beat peak fed in the semi. He'd dance all around 19 USO Nadal and 19 USO Med.
peak Hewitt would beat either of them as well

hewitt put up a clearly more impressive performance in USO 01 final vs Sampras than Med vs Djokovic here in USO 21 final.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
This thread is hilarious, Opelka making an appearance even, and imagine flaunting Hewitt in 2008 of all years to try and prove a point :laughing:
 
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