Peopl forget how good Hewitt was

TeflonTom

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hewitt was #1 for 80 weeks, bein late 2001 to mid 2003 minus a coupla weeks near the end when agassi was briefly on top
 

Paul Murphy

Hall of Fame
Totally agree. Leaves Murray eating his dust. The guy won an atp tourney at 15, won queens multiple times, WON THE TWO MOST PRESIGIOUS SLAMS and was number one in the world for a long time. He had the best wheels and mental game in tennis. Had he not been injured so much, whole different career for Ley Ley.
Agreed. Can't compare Murray with Hewitt.
80 weeks at No.1 make him a highly significant player, as do the two majors.
 

ATP100

Professional
Prime Hewitt wouldnt stand a chance vs prime Nadal. Period.

Yes, he was good and yes he hit deep shots and yes he was lightning fast.

But, he didnt hit with a lot of topspin therefore his shots were not very heavy and they didnt penetrate the court that good. He was a great counterpuncher who won 2 GS and 2 YEC in a weak era in between Sampras and Federer.

Disagree....Period.
 

Paul Murphy

Hall of Fame
His great strengths were his speed, aggression, fighting qualities and his return.
If I was going to pick a player to play for my life he'd be right at the top of the list - he never gives up.
Terrible shame about all the injuries - how much more interesting would the majors of the past five years or so been had a fit Hewitt been lurking in the draw.
He's a wonderful tactician who's adept at deconstructing opponents' games.
And to top it all off he's a patriot - he's always been there for Australia in the DC.
I remember a few years ago Hewitt flying back from Europe at a crucial time for him in one of his (many) comebacks to play a DC tie in a bid to get Australia back into the world group.
A superb player without any huge weapons but one who used every bit of talent he'd been given, didn't waste an ounce - unlike someone like Safin for instance.
 

djokovic2008

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No Hewitt is better than Murray at the US Open or Wimbledon. He is also better than Djokovic on grass. Djokovic is not on the level of Federer or Nadal. Federer was better than Djokovic on every surface. Nadal is better than him on grass and clay. As for Del Potro he was sadly ruined by injury. His top level was something special. In 09 he was set to dominate, but injuries ruined. Putting Hewitt in the same league as Berdych is laughable.
Sorry were you in a coma in 2011 or 2008 or 2007, Djoker has ALWAYS been able to hang with those guys and now he is their equal or even above them especially on the hardcourts where he has beat both of them up again and again in recent slams.
 

djokovic2008

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Murray better than Hewitt?? LOL

2 Grand Slam, 2 Masters Cup and 1 year as N1. Murray can't even dream of achieving that.

He was better than Berdych too, and to Del Potro hard to say, he is just 23, has a lot of time ahead. If he can get back to his 2009 level he will be better.

As people forget how good Hewitt was, they also forget how good Del Potro was.
Using those stats are unrealistic as murray has to compete with three of the best players in the last 20 years. Murray at his best and hewitt at his best I'd take murray.
 

djokovic2008

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what am I reading, are you 12, how can you compare berdych and Delpo to hewit, Delpo idolized hewit, you have to be a kid
The fact delpo idolized Hewitt means nothing the game has changed and you need a killer shot to win slams counter punching will not win slams today.
 
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The fact delpo idolized Hewitt means nothing the game has changed and you need a killer shot to win slams counter punching will not win slams today.
I guess that's why Djokovic has been losing slams lately.
 
Sorry were you in a coma in 2011 or 2008 or 2007, Djoker has ALWAYS been able to hang with those guys and now he is their equal or even above them especially on the hardcourts where he has beat both of them up again and again in recent slams.
Djokovic is a truly great player, but his fans go WAY WAY over the top. I mean comparing his forehand to Sampras's says it all (Sampras forehand maybe the best ever. Djokovic's best is not better than Federer on any surface with the exception of maybe, Plexichusion. Federer had Mono in 08 and still leads DJokovic at the US Open 3-2. Federer is in his 30s and past his prime, but he still got match points against Djokovic at the US Open the last two times they played right in the middle of their peaks. At Wimbledon they played once and Federer won at almost 30.

Nadal is just much better than Djokovic on clay. Better on grass. I agree Djokovic is better on hardcourts, but the gap on the hardcourts is not as big as the gap Nadal has over him on clay. Nadal is the BEST clay court player ever. He is also a very capable grass player.

It seems some people fail to realise players DECLINE. Tennis players usually start to slip around 25/6. You the kind of person that would argue Benjamin Becker beating Agassi means he would beat Agassi in his prime.
 
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djokovic2008

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Djokovic is a truly great player, but his fans go WAY WAY over the top. Djokovic's best is not better than Federer on any surface with the exception of maybe, Plexichusion. Federer had Mono in 08 and still leads DJokovic at the US Open 3-2. Federer is in his 30s and past his prime, but he still got match points against Djokovic at the US Open the last two times they played right in the middle of their peaks. At Wimbledon they played once and Federer won at almost 30.

Nadal is just much better than Djokovic on clay. Better on grass. I agree Djokovic is better on hardcourts, but the gap on the hardcourts is not as big as the gap Nadal has over him on clay. Nadal is the BEST clay court player ever. He is also a very capable grass player.

It seems some people fail to realise players DECLINE. Tennis players usually start to slip around 25/6. You the kind of person that would argue Benjamin Becker beating Agassi means he would beat Agassi in his prime.
I like the way when you mention djokers victories you have to add an excuse like all fed fans. Djoker has killed Fed at the AO with a number of straight set victories. At the AO is is better than eveyone as his record shows, fed beats him on grass and indoor and nadal owns clay. Like it or not Djoker beat fed two years in a row at the USO, i'll admit they are very close matchup wise at the USO.
 

MariaRafael

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Djokovic is a truly great player
Djokovic is good at everything and great at nothing. Every top player has some great component in his game:

Federer: serve, footwork, nearly flat DTL forehand
Nadal: top-spin forehand, court coverage, mental strength
Pete Sampras: serve, forehand, volley
Stefan Edberg: VOLLEY, speed, touch
John McEnroe: serve-and-volley, hitting the ball early, attacking all the time
Jimmy Connors: defence, stamina, backhand

etc.

What does Djokovic has where he is better than the others? Ivanicevic's serve, Edberg's volleys and Borg's stamina have been remembered for years. What will Djokovic be remembered for? Incomplete retirement slam?
 
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I like the way when you mention djokers victories you have to add an excuse like all fed fans. Djoker has killed Fed at the AO with a number of straight set victories. At the AO is is better than eveyone as his record shows, fed beats him on grass and indoor and nadal owns clay. Like it or not Djoker beat fed two years in a row at the USO, i'll admit they are very close matchup wise at the USO.
Djokovic barely squeezed past Murray in this years Australian Open, what's to say he won't lose to him next year? Would Djokovic still be the king there then?
 
I like the way when you mention djokers victories you have to add an excuse like all fed fans. Djoker has killed Fed at the AO with a number of straight set victories. At the AO is is better than eveyone as his record shows, fed beats him on grass and indoor and nadal owns clay. Like it or not Djoker beat fed two years in a row at the USO, i'll admit they are very close matchup wise at the USO.
I give credit for Djokovic winning the US Open matches, but if you think Djokovic in his prime conceding match points against an aging Federer is means nothing then it says it all. You are obviously new to tennis. You will learn when Djokovic is playing at 30. He can no longer track down Tomic's shots and Tomic fans start claiming, Tomic is better than Djokovic ever was. No point discussing this further with you. In a few years you will realise.

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Nor do I think Federer is necessarily better than Sampras on grass, despite Federer beating him the one time they met. It is very close between them and I believe Federer may actually win more due to the match up advantage, but if I was forced to pick, who was better it would be Sampras.

Same goes for Hewitt. No way would I say he was better than Sampras at the US.
 
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Djokovic is having trouble with Hewitt, and he's way past his prime. How can he be considered one of the best?
 

djokovic2008

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I give credit for Djokovic winning the US Open matches, but if you think Djokovic in his prime conceding match points against an aging Federer is means nothing then it says it all. You are obviously new to tennis. You will learn when Djokovic is playing at 30. He can no longer track down Tomic's shots and Tomic fans start claiming, Tomic is better than Djokovic ever was. No point discussing this further with you. In a few years you will realise.

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Nor do I think Federer is necessarily better than Sampras on grass, despite Federer beating him the one time they met. It is very close between them and I believe Federer may actually win more due to the match up advantage, but if I was forced to pick, who was better it would be Sampras.
TOMIC, TOMIC did you say TOMIC your the one who is new to tennis and this shows it. I've been watching and playing which so few do on this board for the last twenty years hence my expert analysis in this field.
 
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There has been three slams this year and djoker has won one lost the final and semi of the other two its not the end of the world is it. Plus he'll win USO this year anyway.
He won't win the US Open if Murray and Federer step their game up.
 

djokovic2008

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Djokovic is good at everything and great at nothing. Every top player has some great component in his game:

Federer: serve, footwork, nearly flat DTL forehand
Nadal: top-spin forehand, court coverage, mental strength
Pete Sampras: serve, forehand, volley
Stefan Edberg: VOLLEY, speed, touch
John McEnroe: serve-and-volley, hitting the ball early, attacking all the time
Jimmy Connors: defence, stamina, backhand

etc.

What does Djokovic has where he is better than the others? Ivanicevic's serve, Edberg's volleys and Borg's stamina have been remembered for years. What will Djokovic be remembered for? Incomplete retirement slam?
Someone sounds very bitter, so his backhand is not great no? please, and if he is just good and these areas how come it was enough to whip the entire tour last year including fed and of course the humilation of NADAL last year?
 

MariaRafael

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The past and the future ... What about the present? Lost RG and career slam to Nadal and Wimbledon and the opportunity to prove his credentials to Federer. Hopefully Murray will be the next one in the big four to cut this jumped-up stable lad to his size.

There's no last year in sports. Rafa whipped the whole tour last but one year ago. Federer was lynching everybody in 2006-2007. Both are much more successful than Djokovic.

And don't speak about bitterness. My critical feelings towards Djokovic have a highly relaxing whistle which I use in the stadiums every time your hero tosses a racket, breaks some furniture, rolls his eyes, plays possum, etc.

And no, his backhand is not great. Great backhand is Marat Safin, David Nalbandyan, Richard Gasquet. THeir backhands are both weapons and a thing of beauty. Djokovic hasn't even come close.
 
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Paul Murphy

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What a shame that a thread extolling the virtues of Hewitt gets taken over by this rubbish.
How about I set up a new thread for you called the "Djokovic is good, no, Djokovic is crap thread" and you can take your argument over there.
 

djokovic2008

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What a shame that a thread extolling the virtues of Hewitt gets taken over by this rubbish.
How about I set up a new thread for you called the "Djokovic is good, no, Djokovic is crap thread" and you can take your argument over there.
If you check the history of this thread I started talking about Hewitt but when the ****s see djokovic in my name the bitterness of 2011 comes out and they jump in, happens in every thread.
 
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what did u expect, this forum is full o 12 year old ****s who were in nappies when hewitt was winnin slams
If this applies to me, I was old enough to remember Hewitt defeating Sampras in the 2001 US Open and also old enough to remember Hewitt conquering Nalbandian in Wimbledon 2002.

I also remember Hewitt becoming a threat again after sinking to #17 in the rankings and fighting his way back up to #3 at the end of 2004. Hewitt made it to the final of the 2005 Australian Open, and I believe that was when he was at his absolute peak.

Hewitt was a beast, no doubt about it.
 

BauerAlmeida

Professional
Djokovic is good at everything and great at nothing. Every top player has some great component in his game:

Federer: serve, footwork, nearly flat DTL forehand
Nadal: top-spin forehand, court coverage, mental strength
Pete Sampras: serve, forehand, volley
Stefan Edberg: VOLLEY, speed, touch
John McEnroe: serve-and-volley, hitting the ball early, attacking all the time
Jimmy Connors: defence, stamina, backhand

etc.

What does Djokovic has where he is better than the others? Ivanicevic's serve, Edberg's volleys and Borg's stamina have been remembered for years. What will Djokovic be remembered for? Incomplete retirement slam?
Backhand, Return Of Serve, Movement, Speed, Mental Strength.
 

tistrapukcipeht

Professional
I'll tell you guys, I never liked Hewitt, I still don't like Hewitt, I think he is a dbag, just like Roddick, but his fight and heart is admirable, how He played against Cilic and Djokovic was a lesson to how good this guy is, while Roddick got destroyed, Hewitt after all surgeries and only 7-8 matches to date almost beat Novak.
 

TeflonTom

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I still don't like Hewitt, I think he is a dbag, just like Roddick
ironically duck n rusty r two of the nicest guys u will meet. Both of em have a lotta time for fans n actually treat em like human beins. Always see em chattin n laughin with someone or other at tourneys, askin kids about emselves, etc

If u ever get a chance 2 chat to one of em, go for it. duck in particular is awesome
 
ironically duck n rusty r two of the nicest guys u will meet. Both of em have a lotta time for fans n actually treat em like human beins. Always see em chattin n laughin with someone or other at tourneys, askin kids about emselves, etc

If u ever get a chance 2 chat to one of em, go for it. duck in particular is awesome
Thats funny. In Australia, the public perception of him is that he's a cash up bogan and not very liked which is a shame because he was so good
 

TeflonTom

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australians hate successful ppl. one on one he is a really nice guy

think ur overstatin the dislike for him tho. He wasnt real liked when he was younger n more outspoken, but he seems a lot more popular now he is older

most ozzies i meet say they like him since he matured. certainly gets massive support at the ao
 
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Manus Domini

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For those that are comparing Hewitt to Murray: just look at the mental game. Let's, for the sake of argument, say Murray has a game that is a little stronger (I strongly disagree). When the going gets rough, who is the one who is going to give up more easily?

Look, Hewitt was fast--really fast--from what I can see. And he had a lot of injuries. His prime was cut short because of them. Yet he can still give the top guys a run for their money. Would Murray be able to after as much surgery as Hewitt had?
 
I think everyone remembers Hewitt as a talented tennis player but all the accusations of child molestation make one want to put him out of mind.
 
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australians hate successful ppl. one on one he is a really nice guy

think ur overstatin the dislike for him tho. He wasnt real liked when he was younger n more outspoken, but he seems a lot more popular now he is older

most ozzies i meet say they like him since he matured. certainly gets massive support at the ao
Hewitt was more reliable at slams than Rafter was, I will say that much.
 

Start da Game

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hewitt is one of the most overrated players in history who came in at a time when all the old lions of the 90s were on the brink of retirement and the new generation hasn't yet taken over.......he was just a transition era champ and nothing more than that.......
 

Crisp

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Hewitt proves time and again that he is a threat when healthy. He was absolutely a top player there was a period of nearly 2 years that he only ever lost to the winner of the grand slam that he was contesting. He still proves it now, and better yet he believes he is a threat. Well done lleyton carried the Australian flag very well in the tennis as those around you crumbled. Yes he was and is a flat hitter, so is Novak. And he was super fleet of foot there is no doubting that. Too many people are happy to have a go at our champions. What have you been the best in the world in?
 

Paul Murphy

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australians hate successful ppl. one on one he is a really nice guy

think ur overstatin the dislike for him tho. He wasnt real liked when he was younger n more outspoken, but he seems a lot more popular now he is older

most ozzies i meet say they like him since he matured. certainly gets massive support at the ao
Correct. Huge support at the AO.
He's revered in Australian tennis circles - highly popular among his Aussie contemporaries too.
 

Paul Murphy

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Hewitt proves time and again that he is a threat when healthy. He was absolutely a top player there was a period of nearly 2 years that he only ever lost to the winner of the grand slam that he was contesting. He still proves it now, and better yet he believes he is a threat. Well done lleyton carried the Australian flag very well in the tennis as those around you crumbled. Yes he was and is a flat hitter, so is Novak. And he was super fleet of foot there is no doubting that. Too many people are happy to have a go at our champions. What have you been the best in the world in?
Nicely put as well.
He's carried Australian tennis for a long, long time.
 

MTF07

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hewitt is one of the most overrated players in history who came in at a time when all the old lions of the 90s were on the brink of retirement and the new generation hasn't yet taken over.......he was just a transition era champ and nothing more than that.......
Oh please.
 

Seventeen

Rookie
Hewitt proves time and again that he is a threat when healthy. He was absolutely a top player there was a period of nearly 2 years that he only ever lost to the winner of the grand slam that he was contesting. He still proves it now, and better yet he believes he is a threat. Well done lleyton carried the Australian flag very well in the tennis as those around you crumbled. Yes he was and is a flat hitter, so is Novak. And he was super fleet of foot there is no doubting that. Too many people are happy to have a go at our champions. What have you been the best in the world in?
Amen brother.
 

Start da Game

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there is no secret behind who loves hewitt.......there are actually more no. of fedfans supporting the player than the actual fans.......hewitt, roddick, davydenko, ljubicic etc. ordinary players get heavy support from fed fans because their player made his glory over them.......

often the us open 2001 final is showed as some proof of hewitt's ability but people forget that sampras owned his arse until 2001 with a 4-1 head to head.......

2001 was a very low year for pete in a lot of ways.......he was never the same after wimbledon 2000, was emotionally done and dusted from the sport.......
 

TeflonTom

Banned
prior to 2001 hewitt was a teenager. only teenager I can think of who's had a winnin H2H against the world number 1 is nadal
 
prior to 2001 hewitt was a teenager. only teenager I can think of who's had a winnin H2H against the world number 1 is nadal
Not to mention that the head to head was 4-2, Hewitt nearly always took a set and even at the 2000 open, he pushed Sampras.

In tennis ball strikers with big serves are going to outlast players, who rely on physical attributes. Injuries took their toll on him sadly. The difference between Hewitt and most counter punchers is he made you do as much running as he did.
 

Paul Murphy

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there is no secret behind who loves hewitt.......there are actually more no. of fedfans supporting the player than the actual fans.......hewitt, roddick, davydenko, ljubicic etc. ordinary players get heavy support from fed fans because their player made his glory over them.......

often the us open 2001 final is showed as some proof of hewitt's ability but people forget that sampras owned his arse until 2001 with a 4-1 head to head.......

2001 was a very low year for pete in a lot of ways.......he was never the same after wimbledon 2000, was emotionally done and dusted from the sport.......
Yes, indeed. You've got me.
My admiration for Hewitt is really all about Federer.
Thanks for making me realise that. :)
 
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