People asking Wilson Tennis to re-release Pro Staff 90 on Instagram

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Say Chi Sin Lo

G.O.A.T.

First of all, this is not NEWS, and Wilson is not (yet at least) re-releasing the Pro Staff 90.

But Wilson posted something about Roger Federer's grand slam victories and of course, the Pro Staff 90 got the attention of some people, and now there are a few that are posting in the comment to re-release the Pro Staff 90.

I thought I'd post this here so if you want the Pro Staff 90 to come back, flood the comments!

Maybe, if we voice our opinions loud enough, it may actually happen? At least a limited, special edition Pro Staff 90?
 
Well we got a 6.1 95. Just cover the strings in a circle until it’s a 90!
 
My buddy's a big Fed fan so I got to try three of the PS90's through him; I liked the original Tour 90 and I liked the K90. I wound up not gelling at all with the N90, and I'm pretty sure the feeling was mutual; shame, it was a good looking stick.
 
I said this a while back when the Phantom 93 came out. It’s a viable frame size even today. So many people think they have to use 98 or larger because no pro uses smaller frames. The first thing is trends like this always change. For years, the mantra was “pros dont use light frames” and now we have plenty of pros using 330-335 static weights with manageable SWs of 340-350.

So who is to say that some young guys with great feet and hands aren’t using mids right now and benefitting from some of the advantages of them (crazy accuracy, high tip speed, big accurate serve potential)? I see some down here in South FL using 90-95. Not saying it’s going to catch on and take over, but I predict a young pro will bring back a bit more of the classic all-court game in the next 3-5 years and some younger players may reconsider using a mid plus.

All of the above leads to my point - Wilson should come back out with a “modern“ pro staff. Preserve the box beam and classic feel of the old one but make it a 93, make it a bit lighter and compensate for that with a beefier swing weight. Don’t use some stupid spin pattern, just make some minor adjustments so it works more for the modern player who wants to inject some old school back into his game without being penalized for it against Bab cannon users.

Bringing back the old pro staff may happen, but it usually doesnt sell well and usually is decried by purists as not as good as a st. Vincent, etc. So I doubt Wilson would put the proper effort into it to make it as good as people would want. Wilson committing to a revised mid size may yield a better racquet.
 
I would like a more usable (*more plow & stability with lighter weight) Pro Staff 95 with the same box beam & the 18x20 string pattern. I’ve always thought the 85 was better than the 90.
 
Either way, I would be glad if they brought back either the 90, made a 93 (maybe 11.5 - 11.7oz unstrung), or a 95 all with the 90 beam and shape.
After hitting with the 93p 14x18 and 18x20, and doing well with them (vs my PA and PD, which I use because I’m lazy), it has opened my eyes a little.
 
I've actually messaged Wilson Tennis through instagram and they've acknowledged the interests that one post have generated. Generic corporate answer or not, but:

"We are taking all feedback to our team! Thank you!"

So maybe, there's a glimmer of hope?
 
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Say Chi Sin Lo said:
I've actually messaged Wilson Tennis through instagram and they've acknowledged the interests that one post have generated. Generic corporate answer or not, but:

"We are taking all feedback to our team! Thank you!"

So maybe, there's a glimmer of hope?
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Hmm, well that sounds positive to me.
 
Power Player said:
I said this a while back when the Phantom 93 came out. It’s a viable frame size even today. So many people think they have to use 98 or larger because no pro uses smaller frames. The first thing is trends like this always change. For years, the mantra was “pros dont use light frames” and now we have plenty of pros using 330-335 static weights with manageable SWs of 340-350.

So who is to say that some young guys with great feet and hands aren’t using mids right now and benefitting from some of the advantages of them (crazy accuracy, high tip speed, big accurate serve potential)? I see some down here in South FL using 90-95. Not saying it’s going to catch on and take over, but I predict a young pro will bring back a bit more of the classic all-court game in the next 3-5 years and some younger players may reconsider using a mid plus.
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It'd be cool to see for sure. But surely these kids think, hell, if Federer had to switch away from using his mid then what chance do I have? The Federer case study will be front of mind for a lot of current coaches and players. Coaches won't want to risk their charges' performance by arming them with a more difficult tool, and most kids and families will be looking for the path of least resistance towards success.

Here's hoping you're right—Tsitsipas for example could easily play with a mid and it might even improve his serve and net game. It's the defensive game where they'd run into trouble though, and that's such an integral part of the modern tennis grind.
 
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McGradey said:
It'd be cool to see for sure. But surely these kids might think, hell, if Federer had to switch away from using his mid then what chance do I have? The Federer case study will be front of mind for a lot of current coaches and players. Coaches won't want to risk their charges' performance by arming them with a more difficult tool, and most kids and families will be looking for the path of least resistance towards success.

Here's hoping you're right—Tsitsipas for example could easily play with a mid and it might even improve his serve and net game. It's the defensive game where they'd run into trouble though, and that's such an integral part of the modern tennis grind.
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I don’t think Wilson would release that mid with aspiring pros in mind. Another TW re-issue perhaps...I’d be surprised if it’s anything more than that.

Midsize racquet ship in top professional tennis has sailed...
 
thefederman said:
why not release the RF 97 in all the cosmetics of his previous grand slam winning frames. Call it the grand slam pack, stagger the release throughout the year and watch the money roll in.
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what about a single RF97 with a combination paint job of all the frames? Sort of like the Nike Ballistec NADAL shoe that was release. I think if executed correctly it could work. also would save me money from buying all the frames If releases separate.
 
Remember the little booklet that came with the rf97 ? It has all the pjs he used over the years. I like to get another in Ncode pj with his signature printed on not the retail generic Ncode.
 
I feel like I should have added a poll, can I still do that after the thread is created? Maybe if I can show Wilson Tennis some numbers, it'll help them make a decision?
 
TennisHound said:
Yep, a Pro Staff 90 release would be sweet. A Pro Staff 93 would be even sweeter. Either way, it would be cool to have an updated paint job.
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100% agree. I'm also hoping for a PS90 release, but a PS93 classic thin beam version... while very unlikely, would always have been sweet. As long as they keep the SW in mid 320s ish, a lesson Wilson will likely learn in 2023...
 
We're really been reviving old threads lately.

I keep forgetting to look at the first post on the last page of a thread to see just how old the thread is.

But I don't see any re-release in Wilson's future
 
TennisManiac said:
Classic frame. I had two of them back in the day. Sadly I sold them on the bay many years ago.
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play with them since late 90's, had a total of 10, reduced to 7 now, because 3 of them ended broken, in the proper way, hitting a ball, no way I would destroy my black ladies against a wall

here's a pic of six of them, with very rare 3 bumper/grommets sets, these are almost unicorns

I might have a couple more around - not selling any of them, sorry 6.0 95 lover out there





20140519_123004_zps54947476 by António Duarte, no Flickr
 
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Antónis said:
play with them since late 90's, had a total of 10, reduced to 7 now, because 3 of them ended broken, in the proper way, hitting a ball, no way I would destroy my black ladies against a wall

here's a pic of six of them, with very rare 3 bumper/grommets sets, these are almost unicorns

I might have a couple more around - not selling any of them, sorry 6.0 95 lover out there





20140519_123004_zps54947476 by António Duarte, no Flickr
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Lucky dog!
 
TennisManiac said:
Lucky dog!
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About the b & g sets?
Guess you call it a mix of luck and hard searching, I contacted everyone I thought could have them, I finally find them a tennis stringers association in Texas called IART (I'm from Portugal...). They accepted my offer, and shipped them to me, how cool was that ?
I payed a fair price, plus shipping, but it was worthy
 
Since they just did a run of the PS 85 which is basically sold out, hoping we can do the Tour 90 next. I think they may underestimate how much demand there is.
 
yes, if wilson keeps reissuing the ps85, at least three times now over the past decade, because it was used during the glory days of Sampras, and slight variants of by Edberg, Graf and even Fed (with the limited 'rf85' reissue), wouldn't it make sense for them to reissue the k90 or tour90 representing Federer's most glorious and prime years.

And if they do it, while they're at it, hey please bring back reissues of Henin's ncode ntour 95, and sampras' sig kps88 too. :giggle:
 
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Henin's ncode ntour 95
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Not to sidetrack this thread too badly, but Henin never used an nCode nTour. Only a paint job of one. Underneath all the paint jobs, she only ever used a Hyper Hammer 5.3 Stretch MP with PowerHoles (Europe-only edition), for which the PowerHoles (vertical slits at 9 and 3 without grommet mouths, to promote string movement) were never present on any subsequent 95" 16x20 Wilson mold afterwards. To prove it, here are four Getty Images photos (click to enlarge), the first from 2000 showing the original frame, then 2001 with the last HH colorway update, then 2003 with an HTour paint job, then 2005 with an nTour paint job. In each photo, you can clearly see the PoweHoles at 9 and 3, which, as I said, were never present on any subsequent retail silo version of 95" 16x20:

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OK, now back to the Tour 90 thread (of which Roger's, in a similar vein, was of course different from the retail nCode Tour 90 -- Roger's had only 4 crosses in the PWS, plus the grip/handle variation).
 
Trip said:
Not to sidetrack this thread too badly, but Henin never used an nCode nTour. Only a paint job of one. Underneath all the paint jobs, she only ever used a Hyper Hammer 5.3 Stretch MP with PowerHoles (Europe-only edition), for which the PowerHoles (vertical slits at 9 and 3 without grommet mouths, to promote string movement) were never present on any subsequent 95" 16x20 Wilson mold afterwards. To prove it, here are four Getty Images photos (click to enlarge), the first from 2000 showing the original frame, then 2001 with the last HH colorway update, then 2003 with an HTour paint job, then 2005 with an nTour paint job. In each photo, you can clearly see the PoweHoles at 9 and 3, which, as I said, were never present on any subsequent retail silo version of 95" 16x20:
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Good proof and correction. I guess I was fooled by the retail ad wording and another paintjob disguise. And looking up that Hammer stretch it said it was 27.5" and not the 27.25" of the ntour95's. So I wonder if her frame was always 27.5" length. I have a blx tour 95 limited which does have the powerholes and is 27.5" in length, looking like the blx tour limited 95 paintjob she was shown using in 2011, so maybe closer to her frame. Guess I should be calling the ntour95 the Kvitova or Davenport's favored frame (without the powerholes) then, from now on.

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( "Justine Henin, on day six of the Hopman Cup at The Burswood Dome on January 6, 2011 in Perth, Australia" )
 
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