people from cold windy climates who don't own cars: what winter jacket gets your through the -15 to -25 degree days?

d-quik

Professional
1) How long did you own your winter jacket?
2) any issues?
3) How long did you shop around before deciding on the one you have
4) what other models did you consider before committing?
 

socallefty

Hall of Fame
I think a chesterfield-style overcoat for business use and a puffer jacket/parka for casual wear should get you through a winter. You could get recommendations for brands and styles if you google articles like the ones listed below.


 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Do layers, you can go down to -25 below, wind chills -60! Buy a thick thermo jack with hood will too! Buy from online stores in Minnesota and Alaska, Vancouver!
 

Soul

Semi-Pro
For the really cold days I thought my Bogner ski jacket the best at keeping me warm. Thick wool socks helped me a good deal also.
 

golden chicken

Hall of Fame
Celsius, or Farenheit?

Outer layer to stop the wind. Mid and base layers for insulation. Scarf and hat to keep the heat in. Mittens are better than gloves. If you're not allergic, wool.
 
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dahcovixx

Professional
1) How long did you own your winter jacket?
2) any issues?
3) How long did you shop around before deciding on the one you have
4) what other models did you consider before committing?
Have you tried one of the thin "heat shirts" ? Can get at costco for like $10 (32 dergree is brand name)

I use them to play tennis in when its cold. Keeps you really warm, may make a great under layer for you.

They look like this

 

stringertom

Bionic Poster

:cool:
At 800 CHF, I will order an XS after I starve myself for a year or more in order to afford the parka.

Os that the same IN brand that fedr has IN-vested in? I get e-mails from them for shoes and wardrobe but nothing that expensive. Some of their waterproof shoes and jackets are interesting potential buys if my pedicabber days in rainy conditions return post-pandemic.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Wool sweater under, and a thin soft wool thing under there again. Important 100% wool.
Then a Bergans winter jacket that goes down to the thighs. Wind and waterproof. With a hood. A big scarf as well to cover half of the face, pure wool as well.
Need that wool close to the skin! Isolates and breathes well too.
Also important w good shoes as cold goes through the feet. Some good lather boots, w sheep skin inside and extra wool insoles.
I hate to freeze and freeze easily, I’m Norwegian so these things are important!
 

golden chicken

Hall of Fame
Wool sweater under, and a thin soft wool thing under there again. Important 100% wool.
Then a Bergans winter jacket that goes down to the thighs. Wind and waterproof. With a hood. A big scarf as well to cover half of the face, pure wool as well.
Need that wool close to the skin! Isolates and breathes well too.
Also important w good shoes as cold goes through the feet. Some good lather boots, w sheep skin inside and extra wool insoles.
I hate to freeze and freeze easily, I’m Norwegian so these things are important!
What if you're allergic to wool? Move somewhere warmer? :laughing:
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
What if you're allergic to wool? Move somewhere warmer? :laughing:
My son hates wool! So for him I buy this super underwear for cold. But it’s not as good as the natural stuff. I love wool so much, I like to knit and my mother is really good at it. Only knit wool, best feeling ever. Think up here we are wool lovers it’s like a part of the culture. Not sure how my son will survive living here without using wool.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
I'm Canadian so naturally, I just get used to the weather being like this for 6 months of the year lol
 

Tennease

Legend
It's 73 °F outside, but I'm wearing jacket because this building's air conditioner is ridiculously cold. I hate cold.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
At 800 CHF, I will order an XS after I starve myself for a year or more in order to afford the parka.

Os that the same IN brand that fedr has IN-vested in? I get e-mails from them for shoes and wardrobe but nothing that expensive. Some of their waterproof shoes and jackets are interesting potential buys if my pedicabber days in rainy conditions return post-pandemic.
True, but there was no specific requirement as to how expensive the jacket should be, and that jacket is really good. There are some that are less expensive, almost as good and also could be found at a significantly lower price (around 300 EUR) in outlets.

Are you talking about ON? They don't do that heavy apparel: their main focus are their shoes with proprietary technology and recently they have added apparel lines to compliment that.

With that said expensive is a relative thing. At 800 CHF it costs as much as 5 pairs of really good tennis shoes, which most serious recreational players will smoke in an year or less. A jacket like that will last you 20 years easily.

:cool:
 

d-quik

Professional

socallefty

Hall of Fame
Pretty much any pair of well-made leather boots with thick woolen socks will keep you warm. You should buy boots based on the style (business or casual) and sole (non-slip rubber or more slippery leather, thickness) that you prefer - if you are walking around outdoors a lot, I would suggest rubber soles. Also, buy boots with thicker soles. Make sure they are well-made brands so that they don’t fall apart after being exposed to a lot of rain, snow and puddles. Again, google is your friend if you want to search for boots for extremely cold winters.
 
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TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Pretty much any pair of well-made leather boots with thick woolen socks will keep you warm. You should buy boots based on the style (business or casual) and sole (non-slip rubber or more slippery leather) that you prefer - if you are walking around outdoors a lot, I would suggest rubber soles. Make sure they are well-made brands so that they don’t fall apart after being exposed to a lot of rain, snow and puddles. Again, google is your friend if you want to search for boots for extremely cold winters.
You need a thick sole as well, cause the cold goes through the foot soles, at least a cm of soles. One can also buy extra insoles made of wool to make it even better. And yes of course w tracks in them so not that slippery.
To have room for extra in soles and thick socks often one needs to buy a size bigger shoes.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Any recommendations for boots/footwear?
I like this brand as I like the style and it’s warm and good quality. I like w a layer of sheep skin inside and a good a good sole.
they have different styles. Think it’s a Spanish brand. They have endured harsh Norway climate. They can also take some rain without soles getting broken. Spring and autumn the weather changes a lot. Shows w a bad soles and stitches breaks apart w rain.

This one looks amazing; very thick sole and sturdy, waterproof and sheep skin.
That type of sole you can see the foot itself not close to the ground. I need a new pair, my previous ones I used almost every day in winter (we have winter 4-5 months a year) for two years and still going strong. In autumn and spring I like sometimes going barefoot in these shoes as the feeling w the sheep skin is cosy and comforting.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
At 800 CHF, I will order an XS after I starve myself for a year or more in order to afford the parka.

Os that the same IN brand that fedr has IN-vested in? I get e-mails from them for shoes and wardrobe but nothing that expensive. Some of their waterproof shoes and jackets are interesting potential buys if my pedicabber days in rainy conditions return post-pandemic.
I bought a Peak Performance w best quality goose feathers in a thrift shop for about 30 dollars. New it would have cost 10 times more. Very warm and will keep me warm for years to come! I love getting these good buys. I also bought a Bergans jacket wind and waterproof for skiing just 20 dollars, cost more than 10 times more new. Top quality stuff lasts for more than a decade and no reason to buy it new!
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
I bought a LL Bean Down Coat for $75 in July back around 2007 or 2008. I do need a replacement and was thinking of the Baxter State Parka.

I bought a lot of pieces from Eastern Mountain Sports, Patagonia and New Balance many years ago for layering to run during the winter and I can adjust the layers appropriately for temperatures down to about 20 below. I have a couple of balaclavas that are helpful too - got those when I was on Chemo.

I bought a pair of New Balance Sneaker Boots - they have a tread like a boot but the insole and midsole is that of a sneaker. I have not tried wearing them yet but I love the concept.

I pulled out my gloves - my favorites are an old, worn pair of Arteryx fleece. I have new, cheap fleece gloves but they are bulkier for the same warmth. I had two pairs of running gloves but my son took one and the other is missing a side. I would like to find those again. I also have the big, bulky waterproof gloves but I don't like to use them as I lose so much dexterity.

 

krisdrum

Semi-Pro
There are a lot of factors involved in keeping you warm in those types of conditions. I spent years in outdoor retail helping people outfit and prepare for everything from cold winter to ice climbing, winter backpacking/camping and full on expeditions to some of the world's highest peaks.

Base layer - agree wool (merino from brands like Smartwool and others) are a good place to start. If allergic to wool, look at the synthetics, they are very good these days at engineering the air capillaries needed to insulate properly. If you are looking for the lowest profile undergarment possible (under jeans or dress pants, etc.) go with silk long underwear. The best weight to warmth ratio possible.

Mid-layer - down, good synthetic "down alternatives" (like Primaloft), or fleece. Any/all of these work and depending on weight/thickness can be layered/switched out for different conditions.

Outerlayer - Windproof insulated parka (either down or synthetic). Breathable is preferred to let the sweat out, but windproof to keep the air from pulling heated air away from your body. The last thing you want to do is be wet and exposed to cold, which includes your own sweat. If in a snowy or wet region, make sure any down product is also waterproof. Down loses its insulation properties when wet, as the loft collapses and all that dead air space you previously heated is gone.

Hopefully obvious, but the less skin you can have exposed the better, so hood/insulating hat, gloves/mittens, scarf to keep the cold air from going down your jacket.

Also, remember, you are the one heating all these layers of trapped air. So... what you put in your body to create warmth makes a difference as well. Pay attention to your nutrition, keeping your body properly fueled and hydrated, and it will help provide the most efficiency out of the layers you have on top of it.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
These guys dont make boots anymote? Or still do. Their site has nothing www.peakperformance.com
It’s not the best brand for extreme weather! They still make boots yes, I bought one pair for my husband last year. They have very good quality though! But for extreme weather and sports like needs it’s other brands that is better. It’s just that when living in this cold climate it’s good to have options, when going in and out the car, out for a dinner and want to look nice, brands like Peak Performance is great and it will keep you warm. The Norwegian brand Bergans for example you can see that the closing mechanisms, pockets and everything are specialised to the max for an active lifestyle.

Boots for walking a lot I’d not go for Peak Performance but more hiking in the snow boots.

When it comes to clothings you could even go on the marked for Alpine skiing and you’ll find great jackets with really good hoods you don’t need a scarf and a hat. It’s all Wind and Waterproof too. For my son I’m doing that for his daily life in school! As they play out in the snow in recess and walk back and forth to school. For that Peak Performance wouldn’t be good enough.

Yes overly interested in gears lol! But it’s needed when living in this type of climate and on the countryside.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
There are a lot of factors involved in keeping you warm in those types of conditions. I spent years in outdoor retail helping people outfit and prepare for everything from cold winter to ice climbing, winter backpacking/camping and full on expeditions to some of the world's highest peaks.

Base layer - agree wool (merino from brands like Smartwool and others) are a good place to start. If allergic to wool, look at the synthetics, they are very good these days at engineering the air capillaries needed to insulate properly. If you are looking for the lowest profile undergarment possible (under jeans or dress pants, etc.) go with silk long underwear. The best weight to warmth ratio possible.

Mid-layer - down, good synthetic "down alternatives" (like Primaloft), or fleece. Any/all of these work and depending on weight/thickness can be layered/switched out for different conditions.

Outerlayer - Windproof insulated parka (either down or synthetic). Breathable is preferred to let the sweat out, but windproof to keep the air from pulling heated air away from your body. The last thing you want to do is be wet and exposed to cold, which includes your own sweat. If in a snowy or wet region, make sure any down product is also waterproof. Down loses its insulation properties when wet, as the loft collapses and all that dead air space you previously heated is gone.

Hopefully obvious, but the less skin you can have exposed the better, so hood/insulating hat, gloves/mittens, scarf to keep the cold air from going down your jacket.

Also, remember, you are the one heating all these layers of trapped air. So... what you put in your body to create warmth makes a difference as well. Pay attention to your nutrition, keeping your body properly fueled and hydrated, and it will help provide the most efficiency out of the layers you have on top of it.
This is everything!! It’s so nice to have it around the neck and can drag it over the mouth and nose when cold. It’s almost addicting to use :D
I like them in fleece and good to have a couple in circulation as they get dirty lol (maybe because of perfume and I sometimes use makeup and stuff)

 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
This is everything!! It’s so nice to have it around the neck and can drag it over the mouth and nose when cold. It’s almost addicting to use :D
I like them in fleece and good to have a couple in circulation as they get dirty lol (maybe because of perfume and I sometimes use makeup and stuff)

Is there a holder for your glasses?
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Just an Oakley joke.
Oh :laughing:
That Oakley thing is not something I have. I just bought some brands I can’t remember the name of in an outdoor clothing shop. Not something I would buy expensive. maybe like max 15 dollar for one. The pic was some of the first that google showed me.

(I don’t like Oakley glasses either lol)
 

Rosstour

Hall of Fame
North Face McMurdo III.

I got it on sale last year, wow. It's not cheap ($330 list) but is comparable to some other models from other brands that are much more expensive.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Just stuff your shirt with old newspapers, if they are still being printed in your city. This is the authentic boho/hobo look.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
I been in very cold weather and you cannot go very far without a respite every 10-15 minutes. Your face and feet may get cold after that period of time. You can have googles, a snowboard helmet and scarf to cover up your face but still cold eventually will penetrates it especially in the wind. You need to take shelter and warm up or at least get away from the wind.
 
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