Pete sampras' 2 hander

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  2. gofederer

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    Didn't somebody (a coach or guru or whoever) say "Once Sampras change to one-handed backhand, he'll be able to become world number one" sort of thing when he was a rising youngster?

    Given that such a graceful one-handed backhander like Kuerten could win the French Open three times, using one-handed backhand may not have been the crucial factor in Sampras's failure on Rolan Garros. S&V doesn't seem to get along with two-handed backhand either. Rather IMO his general backcourt game on both wings was a bit too shaky to win grueling groundie battles when his serves were no longer such a lethal weapon.
     
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    Just looking at that picture is strange. :shock:
     
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    Yes, Sampras' first coach said something along the lines that Sampras would be able to win the biggest tournament if he had switched to a one-handed backhand. Not many Wimbledon champions with two-handed backhands existed up to then except, most notably, Borg and Connors.

    Sampras' backhand was his biggest weapon before the switch to one-handed. He was a small kid. It certainly couldn't have hurt him on clay and very well may have shifted some of his fast-court wins over.
     
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    I doubt Sampras would have won the French based soley on his having a 2-hander. He did make the semis at one point (losing to eventual champ Kafelnikov). He was also lightning quick in those days, a defenite plus when having to run down shots during those long rallies. I think ultimately his downfall on clay was his fairly flat shots off of his forehand (in comparison to clay court specialists) and his inabilty to become comfortable moving on clay.
     
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    I don't think it looks that great, but then again, his one-hander sometimes looked a little ackward.
     
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    Weird seeing that picture - both the two had backhand and the amount of hair.
     
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    I won 14 slams one-handed. I don't care to think about how many I would have lost with a two-hander.
     
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    Pete, I think your 2-hander in that picture looks mediocre at best.
     
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    grandson hits two handed backhand
     
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    As did dr. Pete fischer.

    The one hander made young pete commit to an attacking gameplan, and helped him improve the volley and the slice.

    Roland garros, ouch, just unlucky a few times. Or maybe just not great enough on clay....
    And lucky to have won the Italian open once.

    Retroactively Solving this by A two hander, nah.
    A better one hander up high, yeah.
    Pete himself thinks a larger headed frame, hmmm, yeah it would have Been cool if he had been mentally flexible enough to try the fischer 98 or even a 6.1 pro staff 95 back then.

    Just another quick word on his one hander. It was streaky. I know he catches a lot of flak for underperforming on that wing, but when it was on, it was lethal both in a cross court rally, a dipping pass, and as a down the line laser....responsible for routing great players like Agassi at times.

    Not as pretty as the bh of guga, richie or RF,
    not as ballistic as that of Stan wawrinka....but i would take it in a competitive situation.

    Saluté, Sampras.
     
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    Sampras didn't play on clay til he was 14 yo, he would never have won the French.
     
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    I remembered this thread in 2004. The real Pete Sampras replied to this thread. It was confirmed by one of his close friends.
     
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    Strewth. Poast numbar 8. Still hoalds up in the modurn erra.
     
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    Sampras' volleying which was a big part of his game wouldn't have been as good if he had a 2hbh. That certainly would have diminished his game.
     
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    It wasn't Pete's game on clay especially under Gullickson since he has wins over all the best clay courters of the 90s minus Kuerten.

    It was his blood disorder which caused fatigue and playing best of 5 sets with fatigue issues is difficult
     
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    Pete just wasn't good enough on clay when it counted. Nothing to be ashamed of, he's still 5th best of the open era.
     
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    Yiassou. Thessaloniki thalassemia.
     
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    I don't think it would of changed anything. If anything it would of made him less efficient at the net and probably less offensive as well which was essential in his 7 Wimbledon titles.
     
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    There's no reason to think he'd have worse volleys or serve with 2 handed backhand. He'd still retain his serve and volley skills. His baseline game will probably become a lot more solid with his second best weapon intact.
     
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    His clay ability was affected by his playing style, not his backhand. Most the kids here won't know, but there was a time when all the courts were far less homogenized. Grass and carpet were fast, hard courts were medium fast, and clay was very slow(like it is today). Today, they are all variations of medium slow to slow. It was, and is, difficult to play a serve and volley game on clay. Your serve is less effective, your groundstrokes are less effective, volleys bounce higher and slow down more, it is more difficult to quickly change directions at net - especially to back peddle, the ball becomes heavier quickly and the covering becomes scuffed and frizzy faster, resulting in a slower ball, all giving your opponent more chance to reach the ball and accurately return it. There's even indication from professionals such as Djokovic, Paes, and a few others like Becker that the balls have been made slower as well. Tennis is a slugging match now, devoid of much of the grace, variety, and tactics it once had.

     
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    I was a two hander in high school at the beginning. My coach trained me to use one hand, as S&V was the norm then. My accuracy, velocity, spin, and speed increased quite a bit, and I did well in university(I was at Cal Poly SLO, and lived not far from where TW currently is at the time). Volleying was a breeze. It's no surprise the fastest backhand in tennis is the one hander used by Gasquet. His is also the highest RPM by far, better than most professional's forehands.
     
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    One hander and volley skills are two different things. How's the volley skills of GOAT one hander like Gasquet or Wawrinka?
     
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    Pete's got a better pedigree on clay than any player since 2001 has on fast courts.
     
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    Gasquet is known to be an excellent volleyer by modern standards. Or have you not watched him? Wawrinka rarely approaches the net. He probably shouldn't. ;)
     
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    Since 2001 means from 2001 till now. Federer clearly has a better pedigree on fast HCs.
     
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