PETITION: Bring back the LIKE button!

Do you want the LIKE button to return?

  • Yes

    Votes: 252 87.5%
  • No

    Votes: 36 12.5%

  • Total voters
    288
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MeatTornado

Legend
I think it's only fitting that this controversy comes on the anniversary of The Great TTW Exodus to Discord, almost exactly a year ago to the day.
 

duaneeo

Hall of Fame
The like feature was causing ________ on this site, so it had to be removed.

What is ________, and will removing the like feature bring an end to ________?
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
When i type in emojis with the keyboard it doesn’t work
All you need to do is click on the smiley face symbol at the top of the screen and it will it bring up all sorts of emojis which you can then just select and click on to add to your post as I just did. :cool:
 

Zara

Legend
The best thing about it is to eliminate user names like 'And 5 others'. I mean what could have been done about that? It gives the illusion as if 5 others have liked the post and that's not true. It's especially confusing when there are also actual 5 others who incidentally liked the post. What was the purpose behind taking such a name?

VolleyHelena is toast though.
 

Edhead-Fedhead

Hall of Fame
The best thing about it is to eliminate user names like 'And 5 others'. I mean what could have been done about that? It gives the illusion as if 5 others have liked the post and that's not true. It's especially confusing when there are also actual 5 others who incidentally liked the post. What was the purpose behind taking such a name?

VolleyHelena is toast though.
Personally, I think it's a clever and amusing user name. Always makes me laugh when I see the name on a "like list. (Well, it used to anyway.)
 
Lack of being able to vote for "like" is undermining freedom of speech here. Although this is not a democracy, but a representative message board, with mod representatives to decide who will preside and who will be banned, one must remember that the American Revolution was triggered by a 2cent tax on tea. Bring back the "like" button , or there may have to be a blue ribbon panel formed to investigate this form of voter suppression--AND, only those who are officially registered should be allowed to "like"--no stuffing the ballot box. No "likee" button threatens civilization itself! Those who don't "like" it can move to Canada.
 
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reaper

Legend
Have the moderators in their infinite wisdom decided to engage in collective punishment here? Somebody somewhere misused the like button, so instead of acting against the individual poster they remove the function from everybody.
 

van_Loederen

Professional
Smileys something I also use, but I think its something we also got addicted to. I try in text messages and similar to not use smileys, but then I feel I am maybe considered boring or not enthusiastic. [...]
Its not easy to not use them when even state leaders and such use them, everybody do.
the internet is flooded with text of unknown quality and by unknown authors.
and plain text is boring to read.
Emoticons tend to make text easier to read (for principles of separation and as a stylistic device).

their expression of the emotions (the pics themselves) is exaggerated though and they don't look classy. some of them look childish, others more decent.
of course Emoticons can also be used in a childish/excessive way, but you spot that immediately.
(TTW's current set of Emoticons is meh, but the emphasis seems to be on harmlessness with them.)

also, with plain text it's cumbersome to express emotions. interjections (like "oh" and "haha") are deemed even less classy than Emoticons, and always writing like "this made me laugh" seems medieval.

now i don't know how strong everyone's desire is to actually show emotions on the anonymous internet.
i rather use them to separate and lighten up my posts. that the feelings i display that way are exaggerated is normal, i hope.
when i chat with friends, i almost never use Emoticons for that reason though. then again, if you know the other person well, you can get the emotions from the context.

if i were a state leader, i would make a Twitter account too, and i might make moderate use of Emoticons too, i guess.

TheGhostOfAgassi said:
This can maybe also be linked to our growing need of being liked I feel like that, which is rather pathetic. Our need to be liked I think can make us do many do things they later regret. So to remove smileys would be something good, at least for me.
our modern technical world seems to make people a little less empathic on average, but i have not noticed yet that it leads to an increased desire to be liked, tbh.
i think that social media just manipulates people to an extent. they now tend more to seek confirmation in a (semi-)anonymous and virtual environment (the internet).

on this website here for the first time i even saw some people having specialised on fishing for Likes. i'm not talking at all about posting funny gifs, but about writing the dullest lines that however some idiots will predictably feel the need to press the Like button on.
such posts and the confirmation they receive drags the discussion down and borders on spamming.

(abusing the Like button as a weapon in fan wars i still find more natural as you don't change your personality for it.)
 

van_Loederen

Professional
Function is ideally positive and used to express positive reaction but everything can be abused. Some will like what they genuinely like. Some will like dumb stuff, average stuff, smart stuff, funny stuff. Discussion comes mostly from discourse so it's not endangered by like feature.
i didn't deny that it is possible to use it also in a useful way. one could f.i. press it if someone posts information or analysis etc.
but the function is not ideally positive/good. even a child could understand that confirmation is not a good thing per se and the inventor cannot have missed it. you can also express positive reaction to negative content and that's so basic that one cannot simply dismiss it as abuse.

but those nasty use options are only 50% of the problem. the other 50% being the degeneration it causes (and that i described in the post above).

the purpose of its whole invention also wasn't to do something generally positive, but to make money.
give the stupid masses the opportunity to express their popinions without even the requirement to write something. gotcha!

well, on some media, like an art forum, where you can like or ignore a picture, it is a useful thing.
on Twitter it's acceptable, i think, as the people are in the center (even though also **** storms can happen there, lol).
on a discussion forum however, the negative aspects outweigh.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
the internet is flooded with text of unknown quality and by unknown authors.
and plain text is boring to read.
Emoticons tend to make text easier to read (for principles of separation and as a stylistic device).

their expression of the emotions (the pics themselves) is exaggerated though and they don't look classy. some of them look childish, others more decent.
of course Emoticons can also be used in a childish/excessive way, but you spot that immediately.
(TTW's current set of Emoticons is meh, but the emphasis seems to be on harmlessness with them.)

also, with plain text it's cumbersome to express emotions. interjections (like "oh" and "haha") are deemed even less classy than Emoticons, and always writing like "this made me laugh" seems medieval.

now i don't know how strong everyone's desire is to actually show emotions on the anonymous internet.
i rather use them to separate and lighten up my posts. that the feelings i display that way are exaggerated is normal, i hope.
when i chat with friends, i almost never use Emoticons for that reason though. then again, if you know the other person well, you can get the emotions from the context.

if i were a state leader, i would make a Twitter account too, and i might make moderate use of Emoticons too, i guess.


our modern technical world seems to make people a little less empathic on average, but i have not noticed yet that it leads to an increased desire to be liked, tbh.
i think that social media just manipulates people to an extent. they now tend more to seek confirmation in a (semi-)anonymous and virtual environment (the internet).

on this website here for the first time i even saw some people having specialised on fishing for Likes. i'm not talking at all about posting funny gifs, but about writing the dullest lines that however some idiots will predictably feel the need to press the Like button on.
such posts and the confirmation they receive drags the discussion down and borders on spamming.

(abusing the Like button as a weapon in fan wars i still find more natural as you don't change your personality for it.)
How the liking works here are different than in other social media. Here it’s all linked to fan wars and stuff. People from another fanbase have a hard time liking my posts even though it has nothing to do w tennis.
I wrote something similar in another place I easily get over 100 likes for it. People outside here seem much more open minded. If I post a nice photo or something. I also get them tons of friend request. Maybe some of them are from another fan base but they don’t care about that then.
I do find the liking business in this forum quite immature in many ways. Close hearted.
 

randomtoss

Semi-Pro
It is almost like a voting right. People want to express their opinion in a easy way.
meanwhile i find it very possible that the habit to press buttons without thinking caused the whole Brexit. :unsure:
Maybe this 'like' thing is indeed to blame (among other causes) for peole voting for populists with simplistic solutions to complex problems. Voting is a serious business, it should involve a lot of information gleaning and pondering. Not just pressing a button or drawing an x on a sheet of paper the way someone enternaining and/or disruptive told you to.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe this 'like' thing is indeed to blame (among other causes) for peole voting for populists with simplistic solutions to complex problems. Voting is a serious business, it should involve a lot of information gleaning and pondering. Not just pressing a button or drawing an x on a sheet of paper the way someone enternaining and/or disruptive told you to.
I think you are right.
Also in social media where the post with more likes than one ones w less, it then just gets more likes and easy solution populist opinions getting spread.
Confirmation bias, “science” and parts of history being used as proof but missing the whole picture.
 
Lol
Voting and what democracy is... the liking business really made people stupid if someone think that’s linked together in any way.
People like the easiest way to do things. For example everybody want to go to McDonalds to eat because they wait 30 seconds to get served. I personally dislake Facebook and Instagram. Too much privacy you give to the strangers. And the privacy should be reserved for the closest person in your life. I don't have a cellphone for the last 7 years and for that reason my friends look at me part as a weirdo and part as a buddhist monk.
 

Born_to_slice

Hall of Fame
Unfortunately, he was right. Pantera and I were talking about it.
Right. Top dog comment. Still, it's really not the gist of the thread.
i didn't deny that it is possible to use it also in a useful way. one could f.i. press it if someone posts information or analysis etc.
but the function is not ideally positive/good. even a child could understand that confirmation is not a good thing per se and the inventor cannot have missed it. you can also express positive reaction to negative content and that's so basic that one cannot simply dismiss it as abuse.

but those nasty use options are only 50% of the problem. the other 50% being the degeneration it causes (and that i described in the post above).

the purpose of its whole invention also wasn't to do something generally positive, but to make money.
give the stupid masses the opportunity to express their popinions without even the requirement to write something. gotcha!

well, on some media, like an art forum, where you can like or ignore a picture, it is a useful thing.
on Twitter it's acceptable, i think, as the people are in the center (even though also **** storms can happen there, lol).
on a discussion forum however, the negative aspects outweigh.
I for one can't stand and don't use twitter and facebook. If I need something from twitter I'll google it. Much more prefer forum such as this one where you can discuss tennis and tennis results but also not be strictly confined to it and not confined to be only dead serious and analytical. I don't mind "liking" any of such content which appeals to me and other people liking my posts let's me know someone found it useful. I don't think other reactions that were available with last update were necessary, especially "angry" reaction. It worse to abuse that than excessively like your fanbase stuff to show support. Liking "negative" content is freedom and it's up to moderators to decide what's not appropriate. IMO, most of the content here is positive. By removing likes, result is already a ton of posts which only content is (y).

I kind of get you where you're coming from, but all this "stupid masses" drivel is a bit inappropriate red pill talk out of place.
 
Maybe this 'like' thing is indeed to blame (among other causes) for peole voting for populists with simplistic solutions to complex problems. Voting is a serious business, it should involve a lot of information gleaning and pondering. Not just pressing a button or drawing an x on a sheet of paper the way someone enternaining and/or disruptive told you to.
You are right. People believe that everything that is served to them via media is true. Laziness of the people in modern society is appalling.
P.S The photo was taken by my girlfriend.
https://unsplash.com/photos/X1LEno0QBQY

 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
People like the easiest way to do things. For example everybody want to go to McDonalds to eat because they wait 30 seconds to get served. I personally dislake Facebook and Instagram. Too much privacy you give to the strangers. And the privacy should be reserved for the closest person in your life. I don't have a cellphone for the last 7 years and for that reason my friends look at me part as a weirdo and part as a buddhist monk.
It can seem like the easier thing to do, but it really isn’t. In the long run it creates problems.
Going to McDonald’s and getting fat for example.
 

weakera

Legend
Coming back to this board and seeing my fresh batch of likes in my alerts was one of my great joys in life. What the administrators here have done is nothing short of evil.
 
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