Pickleball is getting out of control

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
Seems like many who’s never played tennis are getting into playing pickleball. I’m not yet interested in playing it over tennis. A few players who were struggling to maintain the tennis playing shape got into playing pickleball, and they have not looked back. I’m sure it’s fun.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
So new people are using up your tennis courts.
And former buds are changing over.
Evolution.
 

Devilito

Hall of Fame
It's a reaction to how tennis went from a skill based sport to one that is primarily decided by physicality. Fitness / endurance / speed / sliding around / defense / ability to avoid injury, etc. I wish i could go back to the 60s/70s, pick up a wooden racquet and potentially make the ATP tour without needing to be on EPO and spend 99% of my tennis development running fitness drills. When i saw Novak and Rafa being carted out of the AO after 5 sets on stretchers due to exhaustion, i knew tennis was done as sport i found interesting.
 

treo

Semi-Pro
Pickleball singles is not physically challenging. Where I play there are not usually not enough courts for singles, but doubles is preferred. If there was a pickleball center where half the courts were doubles and half were singles and the same level of play was available, I would play singles. Pickleball by itself is not enough exercise which is why I also play tennis.

If you watch pro pickleball most of them play singles, doubles, and mixed, which is rare in pro tennis.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
If it's not challenging, your partner must not be as good as you.
I find it similar to tennis, as do most pickleball singles players who have competitive partners.
If you're crushing your partners without moving...maybe upgrade?
 

treo

Semi-Pro
I'm 57 and in good shape and it takes two hours of pickleball singles and 3-4 hours of doubles for me to feel like I got a good workout.
5 months after starting pb I played a singles pb tournament and won half my games and didn't feel tired.
When playing singles tennis in a tournament or USTA league match I am usually spent after a match, especially when you face a pusher and the match goes 2.5-3 hours. At my age my legs will cramp after 2.5 hours. Thankfully there are no pushers in singles pickleball but there are in doubles with the endless dinking. Playing tennis pushers is exhausting but pickle pushers can be boring.
The objective of pb singles is to get to the kitchen and end the point with a volley so points are short with no long rallies. If you hit more than a few baseline groundstrokes you are not playing the right way.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
You're probably one of the few old dudes who can play 5 hours a day and complain it's too easy.
Maybe you need to turn pro and play against 27 year olds.
Or run 5 miles for warmup and 2 miles to warm down.
Or adjust your competition to a higher level.
But 2 hours alone is not all that much workout, unless played at 80% or higher.
 

Devil_dog

Hall of Fame
I just wish they used a different material for the ball and paddles so that it doesn't sound like Santa's toy factory. But I know at my club, management loves PB because they can pack more people on the modified courts and they generally don't play as long.
 

TennisDawg

Hall of Fame
It's a reaction to how tennis went from a skill based sport to one that is primarily decided by physicality. Fitness / endurance / speed / sliding around / defense / ability to avoid injury, etc. I wish i could go back to the 60s/70s, pick up a wooden racquet and potentially make the ATP tour without needing to be on EPO and spend 99% of my tennis development running fitness drills. When i saw Novak and Rafa being carted out of the AO after 5 sets on stretchers due to exhaustion, i knew tennis was done as sport i found interesting.
Tennis has always been about physicality. It just becomes more difficult when you get older. That’s why old tennis players play more doubles or take to pickle.
 

atatu

Legend
It's a reaction to how tennis went from a skill based sport to one that is primarily decided by physicality. Fitness / endurance / speed / sliding around / defense / ability to avoid injury, etc. I wish i could go back to the 60s/70s, pick up a wooden racquet and potentially make the ATP tour without needing to be on EPO and spend 99% of my tennis development running fitness drills. When i saw Novak and Rafa being carted out of the AO after 5 sets on stretchers due to exhaustion, i knew tennis was done as sport i found interesting.
Are you saying pickleball is a "skill based sport" ?
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Depends how you choose to play.
Watched 2, mid 20's fit players last week.
Closer to 5.0 netgame singles than pro pickleball. Looks like how I want to play, except I use conti grip.
Full, heavy topspin strokes both sides, great volleys and overheads, almost full court coverage. Strong grips, like strong eastern forehand and full eastern backhand mostly topspin.
A few dinks, but 80% power with topspin. Sliced approachs, volleys both low sliced and waist to higher flat/topspin.
Did,t seem any less physical than singles tennis with lots of netplay.
 

silentkman

Professional
It's a reaction to how tennis went from a skill based sport to one that is primarily decided by physicality. Fitness / endurance / speed / sliding around / defense / ability to avoid injury, etc. I wish i could go back to the 60s/70s, pick up a wooden racquet and potentially make the ATP tour without needing to be on EPO and spend 99% of my tennis development running fitness drills. When i saw Novak and Rafa being carted out of the AO after 5 sets on stretchers due to exhaustion, i knew tennis was done as sport i found interesting.
they only play 5 four times a year. physicality should be a part of every sport.
 
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