Pics of stock kblade vs. h22 pro stock racquet:how to tell the difference.

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Here are four pics of a stock kblade 98 and a pro stock h22 side by side:

First pic shows stock frame is not flat front on: h22 on right side and is flat:
155hpw0.jpg
h22 stock/real1
2nd pic shows grom. at the throat, h22 on top:
1rqckw.jpg
h22 stock/real2
3rd pic shows head guards: h22 plain black:
xejyxk.jpg
h22 stock/real3
4th pic shows beam from side, h22 is wider beam, trade mark over the 98, white grip:
2wmibg5.jpg
h22 stock/real4

The feel of both sticks is stiff, with more feed back, in a graphite way, from the h22, more connection to the bed, although, the demo has crappy strings, and that may have affected the bed neg. The throat info is similar. The h22 is wider and flater. I have power pads on the h22 on the side mains, with vs/blackcode. Some serious fire power, with good control, but hard on the arm/elbow/shoulder. An all courter's stick, for sure. Great spin as well, if you hit for it. Delicate touch for drops. Best of both worlds, power/control and touch/brute force, if your arm and pocket book can take it.
 
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pyrokid said:
It was an informative thread that showed things no past threads have. Nice job.
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It showed things that no past threads have because no one has these rackets. It's one thing to mention that you have an H22, it's another thing to answer questions about them. But all Kiteboard does is talk about them regardless of the context. It's like he's cramming it down everyone elses throats, and trying to gloat about it...
 
Doubles said:
First of all, I have maybe 20-30 posts in which I ripped the guy, to which he fully deserved it. I don't go out of my way to blast any other posters on here because unlike this guy, 99% of them don't deserve it. But seeing as he's been banned I doubt that I'll have to worry about this again, until he creates another account...
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Yeah, ummmm....

Doubles said:
Obviously he doesn't know that yet...
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Doubles said:
It showed things that no past threads have because no one has these rackets. It's one thing to mention that you have an H22, it's another thing to answer questions about them. But all Kiteboard does is talk about them regardless of the context. It's like he's cramming it down everyone elses throats, and trying to gloat about it...
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Doubles said:
Yeah, the two other people that use H22's? Give me a break, this is just annoying. We get it already, you have pro stock rackets...
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Man, really, you need to stop complaining about others. Everywhere I go, there's you calling other posters out on things. Even if you're right, which you almost always are, you need to learn to just let it be. You're stooping to the level of all the trolls you complain about. Please, just give it a rest.
 
Mdubb23 said:
Yeah, ummmm....




Man, really, you need to stop complaining about others. Everywhere I go, there's you calling other posters out on things. Even if you're right, which you almost always are, you need to learn to just let it be. You're stooping to the level of all the trolls you complain about. Please, just give it a rest.
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I am with you on this.

I am glad KITEBOARD posted this as I had quite a few inquiries about the differences. There are more than "just two other people that use H22's" out there, obviously...
 
dr325i said:
I am with you on this.

I am glad KITEBOARD posted this as I had quite a few inquiries about the differences. There are more than "just two other people that use H22's" out there, obviously...
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Yeah, me too, Dan. Had you posted it, I probably wouldn't even have given it a second look.

By the way, how's Prague?
 
Mdubb23 said:
Yeah, ummmm....




Man, really, you need to stop complaining about others. Everywhere I go, there's you calling other posters out on things. Even if you're right, which you almost always are, you need to learn to just let it be. You're stooping to the level of all the trolls you complain about. Please, just give it a rest.
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The only reason I'm 'complaining' is because he can't shut up about his stupid pro stock rackets. I understand that they're 'great' and all, but at some point in time it goes from "oh cool" to "just shut up all ready", and trust me, I've been at that point for a while...
 
I wish someone had posted the pics for me, before I went in blind. I really was not sure the h22s I bought were real or not. I had a guy come up to me and say, hey, my sticks are just like yours. I did not realize they weren't until I took a closer look. The way they feel is also diff. than the stock sticks. Anyone on the board who knows, can get one of the sticks, but how can you tell if it's a stock one or not? These pics show the diff. If you don't care, don't click on the thread. Just ask dr325i who to contact. He had an h22, but stopped using it, I believe, due to the stiff nature, and switched to a ba98, and sold his pt57a sticks also. The truth is, they feel better, and that's no lie. It's like a good wine vs. a fine wine. You can feel and taste the diff. Just be aware, that the sticks are stiff. I've played with a yamaha secret o4 and a pure drive team plus for the last 20yrs, so a stiff frame is not something new for me.
 
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I think the pics are great - for someone who isn't sure if they got a real H22, this might be the solution.

KB - you know I love to give you as much hell as anyone here, but this is a good thread. The H22 sounds like a great frame (as the PT57 stuff tends to be)...it just takes some big dollars to equip enough for a tournament setting.
 
I just think its funny that Doubles is so annoyed by it....its not like you have to sit there and listen to what he has to say about his pro stock rackets. You know what the thread is gonna be about, so just skip over it if you're not interested and click on a different thread. I do it all the time...works like a charm :) Its just funny that you choose to enter a thread that you know is gonna annoy you. If no one else likes it either, no one will post. What do you really care?

Don't get me wrong, its not like I don't like you or anything, its just a little entertaining haha
 
SlapShot said:
I think the pics are great - for someone who isn't sure if they got a real H22, this might be the solution.

KB - you know I love to give you as much hell as anyone here, but this is a good thread. The H22 sounds like a great frame (as the PT57 stuff tends to be)...it just takes some big dollars to equip enough for a tournament setting.
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Fair enough said. As much as these sticks hurt me, I am still using them over the pts. That ought to say something. I've tried a lot of frames, over the years, since I've been hitting, (1965) the first stick was a small bancroft strung with real piano wire! Pops used engine oil to keep it from rusting and it stunk. It cost 0.50 cents. I had to fight for my food at the dinner table, with seven kids older than me, three jobs, and no mother...... This frame is the most powerful, accurate, painful frame I've ever hit with in 45 years of hitting. That's longer than many of you have been breathing..... Ask dr325i why he stopped using it! Pt57a is mush compared to it. Yet, it has great control and good pop on the serve, and the volleys are more powerful than any other frame. It's not normal for sure. A good frame, like a new kblade, costs $200. These are $400, and who is to say that it's worth it? Only you can say. You only need one good stick for a match. String it right, and any frame will sing for you. You don't need pro stock to play well, that's for sure. It's just fun for me, is all. It's a way to say to myself, that I deserve to eat dinner without bleeding for it. The feel is really diff. than the stock frame, yet similar, like a cracking egg that keeps crrrraaaacking, compared to the stock egg, that only kraks a little.
 
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tenniskid567 said:
I just think its funny that Doubles is so annoyed by it....its not like you have to sit there and listen to what he has to say about his pro stock rackets. You know what the thread is gonna be about, so just skip over it if you're not interested and click on a different thread. I do it all the time...works like a charm :) Its just funny that you choose to enter a thread that you know is gonna annoy you. If no one else likes it either, no one will post. What do you really care?

Don't get me wrong, its not like I don't like you or anything, its just a little entertaining haha
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Could not have said it better than myself! Just skip over it.
 
Doubles said:
The only reason I'm 'complaining' is because he can't shut up about his stupid pro stock rackets. I understand that they're 'great' and all, but at some point in time it goes from "oh cool" to "just shut up all ready", and trust me, I've been at that point for a while...
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Don't like it, don't click on it. Don't want pro stock, don't buy it. Don't think it's worth it, etc. This thread is only for those interested in the h22.
 
As much as I agree that at times, kiteboard can be rather annoying with their posts about pro stock frames but credit to you, kiteboard, this thread is quite interesting and could be useful for anyone considering purchasing a Wilson H22.
 
tenniskid567 said:
I just think its funny that Doubles is so annoyed by it....its not like you have to sit there and listen to what he has to say about his pro stock rackets. You know what the thread is gonna be about, so just skip over it if you're not interested and click on a different thread. I do it all the time...works like a charm :) Its just funny that you choose to enter a thread that you know is gonna annoy you. If no one else likes it either, no one will post. What do you really care?

Don't get me wrong, its not like I don't like you or anything, its just a little entertaining haha
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I wasn't aware that expressing my opinion was such a bad thing...
 
Being an H22 owner I think this is an appropriate thread. Thanks kiteboard. People have posted much, much worse on these boards. Like the "who like--- string" or "what's murray playing with"? Anyway I was pleasantly surprised when I pulled my frames out and a guy with the kblade 98 immediately said that looks like mine but different. He could tell right away. Since I had never used a Wilson frame in my life it wasn't as obvious. The paint is darker, frame thicker and more solid feeling. The H22 is not as stiff, like 62 ish and the kblade is rated at 67. I wouldsay that it's not the flex rating that matters but how and where it seems to flex, which I like and some hate. I would say it flexes in the hoop more than most frames. My other sticks flex more toward the throat. TheH22 has improved my serve and volleys. I think I've finally figured out how and what to string it with. On a side note; has anyone been in contact with the guy we got the h22 from?? He owes me a frame and seems to be MIA.
 
jsomrak said:
Being an H22 owner I think this is an appropriate thread. Thanks kiteboard. People have posted much, much worse on these boards. Like the "who like--- string" or "what's murray playing with"? Anyway I was pleasantly surprised when I pulled my frames out and a guy with the kblade 98 immediately said that looks like mine but different. He could tell right away. Since I had never used a Wilson frame in my life it wasn't as obvious. The paint is darker, frame thicker and more solid feeling. The H22 is not as stiff, like 62 ish and the kblade is rated at 67. I wouldsay that it's not the flex rating that matters but how and where it seems to flex, which I like and some hate. I would say it flexes in the hoop more than most frames. My other sticks flex more toward the throat. TheH22 has improved my serve and volleys. I think I've finally figured out how and what to string it with. On a side note; has anyone been in contact with the guy we got the h22 from?? He owes me a frame and seems to be MIA.
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Sometimes he is not so prompt to reply. Maybe he's on vacation. What are you stringing it with? I found vs team 17g/blackcode to be the best so far. Hope you don't get stiffed. How long has it been that he last replied to you?
 
Kiteboard,
Thanks for the informative thread. My H22 is with the KB Tour paintjob the K Factor head guard instead of the plain one.
 
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UD1 said:
Kiteboard,
Thanks for the informative thread. My H22 is with the KB Tour paintjob the K Factor head guard instead of the plain one.

jsomrak,
RE: I'm the the same boat as you regarding the MIA
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I believe Petzchner is using that one. Almost took out the butt pick kid at wimby this year!
 
tenniskid567 said:
Hahaha....please tell me someone else sees the irony in this post?
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I laughe too when i saw the comment., sometimes it's easy to get bothered when you read what people type, it' a free speech foum so ther is bound to b stuff we don't like, we must learn to navigate away from trouble.
I think it's a good thread, there are loads of head pro stock ones showing each angle so nice to see one about the wilsons, thanks for the effort K.
 
kiteboard said:
Sometimes he is not so prompt to reply. Maybe he's on vacation. What are you stringing it with? I found vs team 17g/blackcode to be the best so far. Hope you don't get stiffed. How long has it been that he last replied to you?
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I have been string mine with luxilon timo mains at 55 and VS touch 16 at 59/60. It's really nice. I liked rpm blast and vs also but I ran out. Timo plays just as good if not better. It's been one week since last email and a week before that was another. He tells me it's one the way but I have no proof. I have put out feelers. I'm awaiting some response or a check. Sorry to hear there are others with similar probs.
 
jsomrak said:
I have been string mine with luxilon timo mains at 55 and VS touch 16 at 59/60. It's really nice. I liked rpm blast and vs also but I ran out. Timo plays just as good if not better. It's been one week since last email and a week before that was another. He tells me it's one the way but I have no proof. I have put out feelers. I'm awaiting some response or a check. Sorry to hear there are others with similar probs.
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That sounds nice! Don't worry, he will get back to you. Just a little flaky, is all.
 
Dave M said:
I laughe too when i saw the comment., sometimes it's easy to get bothered when you read what people type, it' a free speech foum so ther is bound to b stuff we don't like, we must learn to navigate away from trouble.
I think it's a good thread, there are loads of head pro stock ones showing each angle so nice to see one about the wilsons, thanks for the effort K.
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Had to delete from my cf, before pics would take! Wish I had access to them before I got my sticks. Good advice to just not click on threads we know are going to get us going! Thanks.
 
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Mdubb23 said:
Yeah, me too, Dan. Had you posted it, I probably wouldn't even have given it a second look.

By the way, how's Prague?
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Hey man,

Prague is great, tons of tennis, all on red clay which I really like (I hated our green ****).
However, I am super busy at work and traveling a lot, so not much time for tennis...
 
dr325i said:
Hey man,

Prague is great, tons of tennis, all on red clay which I really like (I hated our green ****).
However, I am super busy at work and traveling a lot, so not much time for tennis...
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That's because the green stuff isn't real clay! It wasn't untill i visited the US once and had a hit on the green stuff I realised how different they were.Much easier to maintaine though so they say.
 
jsomrak and UD1

I'm in the same boat with you guys w.r.t. the MIA. I know this is a bit off topic but have any of you received your frames yet?

BTW, how come there isn't any private msg option on TW forum? And I still can't edit my post...
 
tenniskid567 said:
Hahaha....please tell me someone else sees the irony in this post?
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Doubles bashes everyone else with an opinion, but his is almighty and always right. Rather annoying guy.
Thank you kiteboard, I do not think your rubbing it in our faces that you have pro frames, especially since alot of people on these boards specialty is pro frames and all the codes and chit. 2 other great posters are VSbabolat and Babolast, I can say I learn something new everyday because of them.
 
Recon said:
Doubles bashes everyone else with an opinion, but his is almighty and always right. Rather annoying guy.
Thank you kiteboard, I do not think your rubbing it in our faces that you have pro frames, especially since alot of people on these boards specialty is pro frames and all the codes and chit. 2 other great posters are VSbabolat and Babolast, I can say I learn something new everyday because of them.
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Ok. Fair enough said. It's nice when you learn something new about tennis!
 
kiteboard said:
Here are four pics of a stock kblade 98 and a pro stock h22 side by side:

First pic shows stock frame is not flat front on: h22 on right side and is flat:
155hpw0.jpg
h22 stock/real1
2nd pic shows grom. at the throat, h22 on top:
1rqckw.jpg
h22 stock/real2
3rd pic shows head guards: h22 plain black:
xejyxk.jpg
h22 stock/real3
4th pic shows beam from side, h22 is wider beam, trade mark over the 98, white grip:
2wmibg5.jpg
h22 stock/real4

The feel of both sticks is stiff, with more feed back, in a graphite way, from the h22, more connection to the bed, although, the demo has crappy strings, and that may have affected the bed neg. The throat info is similar. The h22 is wider and flater. I have power pads on the h22 on the side mains, with vs/blackcode. Some serious fire power, with good control, but hard on the arm/elbow/shoulder. An all courter's stick, for sure. Great spin as well, if you hit for it. Delicate touch for drops. Best of both worlds, power/control and touch/brute force, if your arm and pocket book can take it.
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Hi, reviving a really old thread but I'm wondering if you still have these comparison pictures? If so, could you upload them again, please? I have some identifying to do.

Cheers
kiteboard said:
Here are four pics of a stock kblade 98 and a pro stock h22 side by side:

First pic shows stock frame is not flat front on: h22 on right side and is flat:
155hpw0.jpg
h22 stock/real1
2nd pic shows grom. at the throat, h22 on top:
1rqckw.jpg
h22 stock/real2
3rd pic shows head guards: h22 plain black:
xejyxk.jpg
h22 stock/real3
4th pic shows beam from side, h22 is wider beam, trade mark over the 98, white grip:
2wmibg5.jpg
h22 stock/real4

The feel of both sticks is stiff, with more feed back, in a graphite way, from the h22, more connection to the bed, although, the demo has crappy strings, and that may have affected the bed neg. The throat info is similar. The h22 is wider and flater. I have power pads on the h22 on the side mains, with vs/blackcode. Some serious fire power, with good control, but hard on the arm/elbow/shoulder. An all courter's stick, for sure. Great spin as well, if you hit for it. Delicate touch for drops. Best of both worlds, power/control and touch/brute force, if your arm and pocket book can take it.
Click to expand...

Hi, reviving a really old thread but I'm wondering if you still have these comparison pics? If so, could you please upload them again? I have some identifying to do.

Cheers
 
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