Piotr Wozniaci Rufuses To Leave Stadium - He Needs Banning!

jones101

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1. Mona hits a BH winner, Caroline has no play on it.

2. Someone in the crowd calls out so Woz stops.

3. Woz (as usual) complains to umpire that it was out.

4. Piotr starts shouting, from his seat close by, to the umpire.

5. Visibly shaken, she tries to calm him, and gives Caroline the benefit of a replay (which was wrong, caused by Piotr intimidation).

6. Mona confused at the situation.

7. Offical comes up to Piotr and asks him to LEAVE STANDS.

8. Piotr shakes him off and REFUSES to budge.

9. Official leaves him be astonishingly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rzSW_Dw3fFc

His delporable behaviour needs to result in some sort of ban, he is stepping into Damir, Yuri territory now.

IMO he was intimidating the umpire and disrupting Mona!
 
THOSE TOURNEYS have enough security blokes about..??..easy to call on a couple and eject the big bozo

sooo why wasnt security called or was he ejected and next change of ends ??..try that at wimbledon and see what happens >>to the exit he will go>> :confused:.
 
Piotr has as much right as anyone to be in the stands and yell at an official; other fans do it, why not him? If he does something unacceptable like calling out during a point, he should be treated like any other unruly fan and escorted to the exit.
 
I've never liked Wozniacki for her game which I can't bear but also the conduct of her and father is diabloical. This guy is descending into the role of disgraceful tennis dad (another one).
 
ollinger said:
Piotr has as much right as anyone to be in the stands and yell at an official; other fans do it, why not him? If he does something unacceptable like calling out during a point, he should be treated like any other unruly fan and escorted to the exit.
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total BS

fans dont get involved and interrupt play and when they do, they are ejected.
 
ollinger said:
Piotr has as much right as anyone to be in the stands and yell at an official; other fans do it, why not him? If he does something unacceptable like calling out during a point, he should be treated like any other unruly fan and escorted to the exit.
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You think its okay for a DESIGNATED COACH to bearate the official, to the point of intmidation where he made the umpire 'replay' the point?

I don't think ive seen a coach in recent memory converse directly to an umpire, mid match, before, even on changeovers.

Princess Carolina's brand (and game) are slowing unravelling. The realisation that she is yesterdays princess is getting to them. She seems to be resorting in more disputes of late, mouthing to officials etc. Regardless of that, Daddy, needs to keep his mouth shut during play. Whether as her dad or as coach.

She should not have had a replay as it was a clear winner she had no chance on and it was not a hinderance (as per rulebook).

And ignoring requests to leave is shameful.
 
Ugh, just watched the video, absolute disgrace. The shot was a total winner. The real problem here is how it was handled by the chair ump. I don't know who she is, but she's a real chatty cathy. First of all, the replay of point was totally uncalled for. Why she even humored Wozniacki's complaints by listening to her for so long is ridiculous. And then she actually turns around and responds to Woz's box with a conversation. . . why?? Ignore the blowhard!

Chair ump should have warned Wozniacki, not replayed the point.
 
jones
What you're describing is the inadequacy of the officials. If an official can be intimidated by a coack into replaying a point, there is some deficiency in their training or granted authority. In other sports, officials listen briefly to a coach, then turn a deaf ear and get on with their business. Tennis officials need to do the same.
 
Didn't Wozniacki do something like this last year as well? Is the family letting out their frustrations at finally realizing the fact that Caroline will never win a Major?

That umpire is worthless, lets herself be bullied into replaying the point. Kick her out and get someone who actually has some guts.
 
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I have to agree the Umpire bottled it, and the WTA need to speak to her about that.
 
ollinger said:
jones
What you're describing is the inadequacy of the officials. If an official can be intimidated by a coack into replaying a point, there is some deficiency in their training or granted authority. In other sports, officials listen briefly to a coach, then turn a deaf ear and get on with their business. Tennis officials need to do the same.
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I agree and your right, very poor officiating, but for a top players coach to act like that is appaling.
 
Deplorable... Barthel should've argued HER point in response. She was robbed by the Whine-niackis.
 
I don't think you can blame Caroline for pleading her case. I don't think we've seen a player who hasn't at one time or another whined to the umpire to get a call he/she didn't deserve.
Piotr gets some scorn for yelling at the umpire, but I can imagine it might be hard to keep emotions in check if you're an emotional guy and your kid is playing at such a high level.
The umpire completely blew it. No question Caro didn't have a play, and there was no hindrance. She should not have acknowledged Piotr in any way.
As for refusing to leave, if we can be sure that the guy in the video did ask him to leave, then Piotr should have done so, and the official-looking guy should have had him removed by security.
 
Damn what a dbag, definately deserves some penalty.
Caroline is crying as much as her dad.
Always something to complain about with the ump.

btw what the hell was that umpire thinking?!
 
PSNELKE said:
Damn what a dbag, definately deserves some penalty.
Caroline is crying as much as her dad.
Always something to complain about with the ump.

btw what the hell was that umpire thinking?!
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She always moans, she is pathetic. Her tennis is bad enough, her attitude isnt much better :neutral:
 
Reminds me of Jelena Dokic and her crazy screaming father. Jelena was a lovely girl and eventually called the police (or some institution for mentally disturbed people)) to permanently remove him from her presence. He made her life a living hell.
 
Father-coach/ Player combo end up being annoying. Tomic and his father have their antics too.


Bartolli and her father have been behaving though
 
I would like to see the WTA introduce legislation that bans family from coaching offspring over the age of 21. Let the girls breathe away from the intense and unusual father/daughter relationship that we have witnessed so often over the years.
 
Perhaps we should add Mr. Wozniacki and Mr. Bartoli to the "worst tennis dads" list-if they're not already there?
 
jones101 said:
Princess Carolina's brand (and game) are slowing unravelling. The realisation that she is yesterdays princess is getting to them. She seems to be resorting in more disputes of late, mouthing to officials etc.
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Between grade-school jokes, wearing wigs and chasing after her boyfriend like a teenager with her first crush, she comes off as someone simply playing to earn a buck/attention seeking, because she knows she never had the talent to win a major with her..."skill set."

She has to be the most overhyped woman in tennis history--but before anyone mentions Kounikova, even she managed to win doubles majors, but Wozniacki is a complete washout as of this day.
 
President said:
Wozniacki has a rockin' bod...
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Laurie said:
I've never liked Wozniacki for her game which I can't bear but also the conduct of her and father is diabloical. This guy is descending into the role of disgraceful tennis dad (another one).
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It also affects the performance of the player. So, basically he is hurting his own daughter.
 
The reported fact that her father started shouted from his seat, inserting himself into what I assume was just another moment that was a routine turn of events in some match that was not being contested for the sake of gaining any significant amount of prestige, tells me which parent she gets her attention whoring ways from.
 
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The point should not have been replayed.

However, I don't think it was someone from the crowd that said "OUT". I think it was the line umpire that started to call out, then instead of saying correction, just gave the "IN" signal.

Regardless, it was a winner, and should not have been replayed.

As to the person who says that the coach/parent of a player can yell at the officials and berate them, that's actually not true. People in the crowd that are credentialed as part of a player's "team" are supposed to be kept under control. Their player is subject to code violations and/or fines if they cross the line.

Here, I don't think it was a case of the umpire being intimidated. I think it was a case of her making a mistake in not remembering that it was a winner and that it should not have been replayed.
 
woodrow1029 said:
The point should not have been replayed.

However, I don't think it was someone from the crowd that said "OUT". I think it was the line umpire that started to call out, then instead of saying correction, just gave the "IN" signal.

Regardless, it was a winner, and should not have been replayed.

As to the person who says that the coach/parent of a player can yell at the officials and berate them, that's actually not true. People in the crowd that are credentialed as part of a player's "team" are supposed to be kept under control. Their player is subject to code violations and/or fines if they cross the line.

Here, I don't think it was a case of the umpire being intimidated. I think it was a case of her making a mistake in not remembering that it was a winner and that it should not have been replayed.
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I watched the video but a bit hard to tell what was really going on...

If the line umpire called out isn't that hindrance? i.e. it stopped Woz even trying to run for the ball (I still don't think she would have got there either Bartel clocked it!).
Regardless of all that doesn't that depend on the timing of the out call?
That would surely be at the discretion of the chair to decide if this checked Woz's run for the ball.
The correction with the "good" sign that the chair explains to Woz was no help at all, except for the chair to decide a) whether or not Woz would have got there or b) if the ball was in or not.
Bartel was definitely within her rights to call for the Referee but may have just argued her point with the chair. We couldn't see from this video what really happened.

I am not defending Woz. I agree Piotr was out of line: as a member of coaching staff he knows the rules: hopefully they threw him out, Caro got fined for his behaviour. He doesn't seem to have learned to control himself in the coach's area & is definitely thinking back to his football playing days:)
 
raging said:
I watched the video but a bit hard to tell what was really going on...

If the line umpire called out isn't that hindrance? i.e. it stopped Woz even trying to run for the ball (I still don't think she would have got there either Bartel clocked it!).
Regardless of all that doesn't that depend on the timing of the out call?
That would surely be at the discretion of the chair to decide if this checked Woz's run for the ball.
The correction with the "good" sign that the chair explains to Woz was no help at all, except for the chair to decide a) whether or not Woz would have got there or b) if the ball was in or not.
Bartel was definitely within her rights to call for the Referee but may have just argued her point with the chair. We couldn't see from this video what really happened.

I am not defending Woz. I agree Piotr was out of line: as a member of coaching staff he knows the rules: hopefully they threw him out, Caro got fined for his behaviour. He doesn't seem to have learned to control himself in the coach's area & is definitely thinking back to his football playing days:)
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Yes it is the chair umpire's discretion whether or not to replay the point. Obviously in this case, it was a clear winner, and the call did not distract Caro from getting to it.

I was just simply pointing out that contrary to what was said in the OP, I don't think it was someone from the crowd that called it, but it was the line umpire. The chair just made a judgment error that it should have been replayed. It happens to all of us at one point or another in a chair umpire's career.
 
sureshs said:
Examples??????????
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At the French Open one year, after a first set tiebreak, both players took a toilet break. They came back, and Kohlshcreiber asked me what side he was starting on. I couldn't remember, so I looked at the scoring computer, and I told him the left. They went and played one point. When I went to enter the point in the computer, I realized I hadn't entered the last point of the tiebreak. So, then I had to tell the players after 1 point to switch sides again immediately because I had the sides wrong.
 
woodrow1029 said:
At the French Open one year, after a first set tiebreak, both players took a toilet break. They came back, and Kohlshcreiber asked me what side he was starting on. I couldn't remember, so I looked at the scoring computer, and I told him the left. They went and played one point. When I went to enter the point in the computer, I realized I hadn't entered the last point of the tiebreak. So, then I had to tell the players after 1 point to switch sides again immediately because I had the sides wrong.
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What would have happened if you had not corrected the mistake? If it was caught later, would the Slam declare the match invalid?
 
Goosehead said:
you umpired at the french open ??.wow, you still doing it ??..what other tourneys have you done..are players gits to manage.
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I worked 26 grand slams between 1997-2008 (11 US, 8 FO, 4 AO, 3 Wimb). I chaired a Mixed Doubles final and Women's Doubles Final at the US Open.

The players are actually pretty well controlled these days. Hawkeye helps with that a bit.

The hardest type of tennis to officiate at the pro level is at the futures. The chair umpire calling some or all of the lines from the chair, tougher conditions, some more feisty players, etc. At the top level of the game, you have (usually) some of the best line umpires in the world, more experienced players, ballkids, better working conditions.

Now, I pretty much only work college tennis, and some local stuff. I had to get a "real job" so I stopped traveling on the pro tour.
 
How do you (or the announcer) know the official asked the father to leave???

It didn't necessarily look that way to me...
 
woodrow1029 said:
Yes it is the chair umpire's discretion whether or not to replay the point. Obviously in this case, it was a clear winner, and the call did not distract Caro from getting to it.

I was just simply pointing out that contrary to what was said in the OP, I don't think it was someone from the crowd that called it, but it was the line umpire. The chair just made a judgment error that it should have been replayed. It happens to all of us at one point or another in a chair umpire's career.
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Thanks for clarifying...

What makes it worse is that WTA is not taking any action against Piotr:http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/02/wta-doesnt-fine-wozniacki-dads-outburst/46441/#.UR-jcV3rumw-

I don't think the chair is at fault but she should have been backed up a bit when Piotr got into it, he was definitely out of line.
 
woodrow1029 said:
I worked 26 grand slams between 1997-2008 (11 US, 8 FO, 4 AO, 3 Wimb). I chaired a Mixed Doubles final and Women's Doubles Final at the US Open.

The players are actually pretty well controlled these days. Hawkeye helps with that a bit.

The hardest type of tennis to officiate at the pro level is at the futures. The chair umpire calling some or all of the lines from the chair, tougher conditions, some more feisty players, etc. At the top level of the game, you have (usually) some of the best line umpires in the world, more experienced players, ballkids, better working conditions.

Now, I pretty much only work college tennis, and some local stuff. I had to get a "real job" so I stopped traveling on the pro tour.
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thanks..yes i suppose hawkeye much reduces the chance of a player 'doing a mcenroe' on you..but then again just occasionally someone loses the plot like janowizc.
 
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