Placement of a Kick-Serve Ball Toss vs. Execution of Biomechanics

[soft_manatee]

What an interesting thread. I myself am only 16 years old, yet have an 11.6 UTR, a 116+ MPH flat serve, 106+ topspin, and 101+ slice, each that I hit at around over 86%.

However, unlike OP (and the rest of the low-level poosters in this thread) I can hit a kick over the side fence.

Here is my UTR profile for comparison (pre-injury): https://app.universaltennis.com/profiles/3109578

 

[travlerajm]

Well there is a good chance it won’t him in the video if he post - that is the nature of trolling.

When he finally posts his kick serve in grainy vid footage for scrutiny, and you are the first one to prove that it is actually a 17yo Jim Courier, then you get to claim defeat.

 

[CAREDDINGTON]

What an interesting thread. I myself am only 16 years old, yet have an 11.6 UTR, a 116+ MPH flat serve, 106+ topspin, and 101+ slice, each that I hit at around over 86%.

However, unlike OP (and the rest of the low-level poosters in this thread) I can hit a kick over the side fence.

Here is my UTR profile for comparison (pre-injury): https://app.universaltennis.com/profiles/3109578

That's crazy. Lol

 

[CAREDDINGTON]

When he finally posts his kick serve in grainy vid footage for scrutiny, and you are the first one to prove that it is actually a 17yo Jim Courier, then you get to claim defeat.

No sir. You will claim
SR out

 

[matterer]

A 6 or 7 UTR is not high, my man. I'll put my serve on here when I feel all of you are ready, plus I have too many tournaments and not enough time right now.

PS: Just know you will be taking back what you have said.
-SR

I thought you were supposed to be good. Aren't you the "good" tennis player? Come on, SR, show me what you're made of! Me? I've seen things you wouldn't believe. Serve tosses without spin off the left shoulder of myself. Groundstrokes hitting the strings and going where I aimed them. It's too bad you won't make it past 4.0. But then again, who does?

 

[travlerajm]

No sir. You will claim
SR out

SR? Is that you, Shelby Rogers? Tough draw this week.

 

[J011yroger]

What an interesting thread. I myself am only 16 years old, yet have an 11.6 UTR, a 116+ MPH flat serve, 106+ topspin, and 101+ slice, each that I hit at around over 86%.

However, unlike OP (and the rest of the low-level poosters in this thread) I can hit a kick over the side fence.

Here is my UTR profile for comparison (pre-injury): https://app.universaltennis.com/profiles/3109578

Hey, I did that once!

Full disclosure it was on clay and assisted by the line.

J

 

[thisiscrazy]

I thought you were supposed to be good. Aren't you the "good" tennis player? Come on, SR, show me what you're made of! Me? I've seen things you wouldn't believe. Serve tosses without spin off the left shoulder of myself. Groundstrokes hitting the strings and going where I aimed them. It's too bad you won't make it past 4.0. But then again, who does?

Blade Runner!

 

[travlerajm]

Still waiting on OP’s hard kick serve?

Here’s another one from my shorty phase to analyze:

 

[J011yroger]

Still waiting on OP’s hard kick serve?

Here’s another one from my shorty phase to analyze:

I'm so confused. I don't see a player or a court.

J

 

[travlerajm]

I'm so confused. I don't see a player or a court.

J

Could it be SR?

 

[legcramp]

 

[jmnk]

I'm so confused. I don't see a player or a court.

J

That's weird. I, on another hand, see nothing but the court....

 

[HuusHould]

Someone posted this one on my "angled kicker" thread. This helped me a fair bit with getting the lateral movement off the court.

 

[Dragy]

Someone posted this one on my "angled kicker" thread. This helped me a fair bit with getting the lateral movement of the court.

Ulnar wrist flick is bad idea asking for injury. If you watch good servers delivering kick, they finish the swing arc by doing full ISR - rotating elbow to point up. Just like Fed here:

 

[HuusHould]

Ulnar wrist flick is bad idea asking for injury. If you watch good servers delivering kick, they finish the swing arc by doing full ISR - rotating elbow to point up. Just like Fed here:

Yeah, I think he was a bit sketchy on his terminology, he even mentioned "flexion" likening it to ulnar deviation, when they're 2 different things. Whatever you use to rip across the back of the ball, do it early, is the message. I agree Fed had a kicker worth paying attention to. I think I actually do what Federer does.

 

[J011yroger]

Ulnar wrist flick is bad idea asking for injury. If you watch good servers delivering kick, they finish the swing arc by doing full ISR - rotating elbow to point up. Just like Fed here:

My favorite thing about TW is when the people who can't do the thing tell the people who can do the thing that they are wrong.

J

 

[Dragy]

My favorite thing about TW is when the people who can't do the thing tell the people who can do the thing that they are wrong.

J

I can do quite decent kick serve

 

[J011yroger]

I can do quite decent kick serve

I don't remember it from your videos, link?

J

 

[Dragy]

I don't remember it from your videos, link?

J

 

[J011yroger]

Hey! Looks nice!

J

 

[Dragy]

Hey! Looks nice!

J

Thank you! When it’s on, it really pulls me through matches

 

[tennis3]

Peter P is sus, as actual kids would say

I had no idea the kids knew about "Sus Laws". Impressive.

Hey you gettin' drunk
So sorry, I got you sussed
Hey you smokin' mother nature
This is a bust

 

[jmnk]

I can do quite decent kick serve

which one was the kick serve? In particular I'm looking for a 'decent' one.......

 

[Dragy]

which one was the kick serve? In particular I'm looking for a 'decent' one.......

For my level those are quite decent, I am still to face someone to confidently attack it. And it kicks like above 5’, sometimes 6 on clay.

But I’m ok if it’s too weak of a serve for you, levels are different obviously.

 

[Shroud]

I think you are the only person ever that calls Boris Becker’s serve stance a pinpoint. When the definition of platform stance came out, they put Boris’s photo in it.

Its a wide pinpoint