plants as in the garden variety synguts, multis etc. zombies as in the 'dead after 3 hours' but 'hey, pros all use them' stuff. I think the zombie madness is out of control. over the past few years I have regularly hit with 2 dozen or so strong 4.0 to 5.0 level guys, out of which only 2 I'd consider can get benefit out of using polys... the rest of them, either won't see any benefit, or will only see minimal benefit that doesn't justify for the sharp performance drop off these zombies have. so 2 out of 24, call it 10%, then consider the guys I hit with are among the top 5% (conservative guess) of the rec crowd, that means only 0.5% of the rec crowd can really benefit... yet you look at this place, half the threads are related to zombies, with a few others complaining about elbow pains caused by zombies. this is insane.