Play For Both Teams in the Same Game??!!

[ollinger]

Danny Jansen will become the first major league baseball player to do so this Monday 8/26/24. He was a Toronto Blue Jay when the game started against the Boston Red Sox two months ago. The game was suspended mid-way by rain with plans to finish it when the two teams played a series again in late August. A month ago, he was traded to the Red Sox, and will be playing for them two days from now when the game is resumed.

 

[KingCarlitos]

Talk about betrayal?

 

[Mike Bulgakov]

In a poorly worded question, I posed a scenario to ChatGPT:

If a pitcher pitches for five innings with one team, the game is suspended, he is traded to the opposing team before the resumption, and the game resumes with him on the new team, under what circumstances could he be credited with both a win and loss?

ChatGPT said:​

This is a fascinating scenario and highlights some unique quirks in baseball's rules. Here's how it could theoretically happen:

Step-by-Step Breakdown:​

1. Pitching for the Original Team:
   
   • The pitcher starts the game with Team A and pitches for five innings.
   • If Team A is leading when the game is suspended, and the pitcher meets the criteria for a win (e.g., pitched at least five innings and left with the lead that the team maintained), he could be in line for a win.
2. Trade to the Opposing Team:
   
   • The game is suspended, and before it resumes, the pitcher is traded to Team B (the opposing team).
   • When the game resumes, the pitcher is now on Team B's roster.
3. Pitching for the New Team (Team B):
   
   • When the game resumes, if the pitcher takes the mound again, this time for Team B, he could be in a position to lose the game if Team B ends up losing.

Win and Loss Scenarios:​

• Win: If Team A (the pitcher's original team) maintains its lead and wins the game, the pitcher, having pitched the required five innings, could be credited with the win for Team A.
• Loss: If Team B (the pitcher's new team) falls behind and loses the game after the pitcher pitches for them in the resumed game, he could be the pitcher of record for the loss.

Conditions for Both a Win and a Loss:​

For the pitcher to be credited with both a win and a loss in the same game, the following must occur:

1. The pitcher must have been the pitcher of record when Team A was in the lead and remained so after the game was suspended, qualifying him for the win.
2. The pitcher must then pitch for Team B in the resumed game, where Team B falls behind and ultimately loses, making him the pitcher of record for the loss.

Conclusion:​

While this situation is highly unusual and would likely require some specific interpretations or rulings from the league, the pitcher could theoretically be credited with both a win and a loss in the same game due to the unique circumstances of the trade and the game's resumption. This would be an incredibly rare and perhaps unprecedented occurrence in baseball history.

 

[Bartelby]

I can't quite understand the fact that, if a match is not re-started but resumed, the player roster can be simply changed.

 

[esgee48]

I think substitutions are allowed which means it does not mean same players. i can see this easily for pitchers, injuries any trades occurring during the interim.

 

[Bartelby]

The original roster should be respected minus the trade. And the trade should not play for the other side to respect their original roster. This seems a better solution.

Their preferred solution would boost interest in the game, presumably.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Danny Jansen will become the first major league baseball player to do so this Monday 8/26/24. He was a Toronto Blue Jay when the game started against the Boston Red Sox two months ago. The game was suspended mid-way by rain with plans to finish it when the two teams played a series again in late August. A month ago, he was traded to the Red Sox, and will be playing for them two days from now when the game is resumed.

You neglected to mention that the since-traded player Jansen was at bat, second inning, with a count of 2-1, when the game was suspended. Making it all the more remarkable.
Now the game will be resumed, with a count of 2-1 to Jansen, but the since-traded Jansen will now obviously be unable to bat.
Very odd scenario. Might be better off to start the game fresh.

 

[Sudacafan]

I am not interested unless he threw and batted in the same pitch.

 

[ByeByePoly]

switch hitter … understandable given guys fear of commitment

he was playing the field, it was short stop at first team, 2nd team became his home base

 

[Lleytonstation]

Kind of happens almost every year in hockey. Many times the 3rd string goalie (Emergency goalie) of the home team will play for the opposing away team if needed. He is not technically on the home roster though, but has usually practiced at some point with the home team.

But the crazy part is they are literally just a fan in the crowd that ends up playing.

 

[vokazu]

Kyrgios to be granted a Finnish citizenship in the middle of Laver Cup tournament to help Europe recapture Laver Cup.

 

[Mike Bulgakov]

 

[BenC]

let's see someone pull this off in a USTA 3.5 league match

 

[Sudacafan]

Who's on first?

 

[Lleytonstation]

Who's on first?

Yu.

 

[Sudacafan]

Yu.

Hu?

 

[Lleytonstation]

Hu?

No, Hu is on second, Yu on first.