tlm
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you must be new here... don't you know anyone viewed on ttw reduces your ability by 1.0 NTRP minimum?
Your right I almost forgot. Lol
you must be new here... don't you know anyone viewed on ttw reduces your ability by 1.0 NTRP minimum?
I'd love to win a league match only hitting slices and relying on my fitness. Hmm...I win by grinding and attacking when it’s a high % shot. But I’ve been working on being able to be a better offensive player. But I use what works best for my abilities and grinding and hitting a lot of topspin mostly with some short chips and drop shots mixed in.
Most of my opponents don’t like my style either. My strongpoints are consistency and fitness which I’ve been able to use to win my share of matches.
10% better? try doing interval training on an outdoor public stair. just sprint up then walk down to catch your breath, for 15 minutes, it will turn you into a beast on the court. almost 100% guarantee you will be fitter than your opponentMan, if you haven't, incorporate deadlift and some leg work in your training. I been doing that for 2 months now and my footwork is 10% better. its like walking on clouds.
I do HIIT running once a week. And 10% better is not enough???? I think if you can get 10% better in 2 month, how far you can go in a year????10% better? try doing interval training on an outdoor public stair. just sprint up then walk down to catch your breath, for 15 minutes, it will turn you into a beast on the court. almost 100% guarantee you will be fitter than your opponent
120% if theres no law of diminishing returns, but there is...I do HIIT running once a week. And 10% better is not enough???? I think if you can get 10% better in 2 month, how far you can go in a year????
Apparently Thiem trains in the forest with no equipment.120% if theres no law of diminishing returns, but there is...
Its cool you find dead lifts to help. For me I want to train as least amount as possible, i've just noticed huge gains from only 15 minutes of training on the stair. No gym membership or expensive weights required either
Yeah, I don't think weights are necessary for tennis players. Especially not rec players. Might be useful during some rehab stuff I guess, but usually that stuff is due to weak supporting muscles or tendons and requires very little weight (a 2L bottle of water is probably enough lol)Apparently Thiem trains in the forest with no equipment.
Smart guy.Apparently Thiem trains in the forest with no equipment.
I'd love to win a league match only hitting slices and relying on my fitness. Hmm...
No 1 4.0 player in my club is a slice/dropshot junk baller with a good serve. I couldn't win a set off him yet and i am 10 years younger haha.I'd love to win a league match only hitting slices and relying on my fitness. Hmm...
I played a 4.0 during mixed. He had a driving slice for BH that was super good. He would run around his FH to his BH. His serves were not that awesome, but he never DF'd. Just relied on winning every rally with his BH.I hit mostly topspin from the forehand side but slice a lot on the backhand.
Looks like you have a nice FH and serve. Looked a bit lazy on getting to balls not in your strike zone.They played 100%, trust me I know, so I know their level and my level. I never said what the result was or how hard I got crushed or how I faired against them tho, I was just teasing tlm a bit.
Most players fall 0.5-1.0 NTRP once they play formal matches until they can deal with playing under pressure. Just saying.
If I understand the USTA rating system correctly (and I might not, so take my comment with a grain of salt) then perhaps aiming to achieve a solid 4.5 rating might be more realistic, and yet still extremely difficult. If I were you I would set that as my first goal, and if you ever achieve it be happy. From the videos I've seen, going from 4.5 to 5.0 will be as much of a struggle as it is just getting to 4.5.
No 1 4.0 player in my club is a slice/dropshot junk baller with a good serve. I couldn't win a set off him yet and i am 10 years younger haha.
Yeah, I don't think weights are necessary for tennis players. Especially not rec players. Might be useful during some rehab stuff I guess, but usually that stuff is due to weak supporting muscles or tendons and requires very little weight (a 2L bottle of water is probably enough lol)
My serve is definitely exploitable. So i am working on that. Its getting better so i might give him a better match.What are you working on to try and counter his game?
Ding Ding Ding .... there is such a thing as being "seasoned" or getting match-toughness. It also allows someone to win on the court against someone with perhaps technically "better" tennis.
My first couple seasons I played down a few levels in matches compared to practice. Now, 150+ league and tournament matches later I am a bit the opposite.
There is a woman at the club, 20 years my junior, very fit, every stroke is faster, spinnier and better than mine. (except serve) She is not on any league teams nor done any tournaments. (interesting story why for some other thread) Her teaching pro has set up 3 matches against me. I have beaten her 2s and 3s every time. She has no match toughness. She has zero point construction, doesn't play percentages and when frustrated becomes overly agressive in her play. Once she starts playing "real" matches, and gains that match toughness, she will likely bagel me every time.
I find that there is a mental, match toughness range too. Just like physical range and limitations such as serve speed, foot speed, forehand power, people have mental limitations too.
You are not going to see a Monfils player become a Nadal mentally.
Unlimited limitations?+1
My mental limitations know no bounds in singles especially
Unlimited limitations?
What are you working on to try and counter his game?
Also a thanks to the weakminded haters who tell me I cant achieve something and il never reach my goals, u give me extra motivation to prove you all wrong and to push that little extra 110% everytime I go play or train
Definitive answer to the question of what to work on to counter a junk ballers game: Avoidance.
Life is too short to put up with one trick ponies that won't play an enjoyable game of tennis. Yes i could spend weeks learning counters to all these "special snowflakes". But the agony and annoyance wouldn't be worth it. That's why a lot of people don't play leagues. You have to put up with the oddballs that use a specialty shot they've honed in the backyard to defeat people. If you played these people all the time you'd naturally figure them out, but the league system offers them the element of surprise. And of course the encounter is so unpleasant you never add them to your tennis buddies list.
Why are realists always called "haters" when they question the likelihood of a dreamer achieving his dreams. I don't think hate has anything to do with it. It's more a pragmatic analysis of the scenario and an odds based assessment. It's nothing personal. I don't think anyone hates you or wishes you ill will. They just don't believe in backing long shots because they rarely come in.
I mean would you support someone that said their retirement strategy was "lottery winnings".
Play tennis, try to get better, have fun. Let the NTRP fall where it may.
Why are realists always called "haters" when they question the likelihood of a dreamer achieving his dreams. I don't think hate has anything to do with it. It's more a pragmatic analysis of the scenario and an odds based assessment. It's nothing personal. I don't think anyone hates you or wishes you ill will. They just don't believe in backing long shots because they rarely come in.
I mean would you support someone that said their retirement strategy was "lottery winnings".
Play tennis, try to get better, have fun. Let the NTRP fall where it may.
What’s an enjoyable game of tennis? The idea of playing tennis is to try and beat your opponent not make it enjoyable for him. I thought the idea is to make your opponent uncomfortable and to throw them off with whatever works. Wether that be coming into net often, or pounding their backhand or driving them back and then hitting drop shots.
Every opponent is different and it’s always a challenge to figure out what combination of shots is effective against that player. When I started playing league tennis the first thing I found out is most all players are very consistent and they are not going to beat themselves. Their also not going to try and blast shots all the time and make a bunch of errors. So it’s a tough game and I found I have to grind it out until I find a combination that will work.
In my winter league I played in I went 5-1 and I had some opponents complaining like you are about not hitting consistent pace and using chips and drop shots. I just figured well they are just poor losers. When I drive a looping topspin shot deep and they start playing well behind the baseline I’m going to hit a dropper. It’s no different than baseball you hit it where they ain’t.
This is the first sport I’ve played in where the opponents will complain a lot about the opponents style so much. Regardless of the style if you can’t beat it then your opponent was better on that day. It would be like playing baseball and telling the pitcher you only want to see fastballs because you can’t hit curve balls well.
This is a good post and very accurate. Nobody’s hating just trying to give some advice and who knows maybe this guy can make 5.0 and I hope he does. But it’s much much harder than a lot of people think. My main suggestion is work your way up. First see how good you can do in a 3.5 league and then 4.0.
Hitting around and practice does not mean much. I’ve heard many guys say I’ve been hitting with the better 4.0 or 4.5 players and I’m doing well. That’s great but it means nothing until you can beat them in a real match.
People dont like to lose, but even more so they hate to lose to someone who plays "worse" than them in the sense that they hit fast shots while the other person just blocks and bunts things back and yet they lose, it drives them nuts, so they hate on the other players style because they are angry that they got beat.
Personally i think tennis is a great variety sport and creativity and smarts are underrated nowadays when 99% of players just hit baseline fhs and bhs and never anything else, and any style is cool and interesting, even if someone serves underhand or something, its interesting to see something different.
Well baseball has some oddities as well like you’re not supposed to bunt to beat the shift. When you do, the opposing team gets their panties all in a bunch.What’s an enjoyable game of tennis? The idea of playing tennis is to try and beat your opponent not make it enjoyable for him. I thought the idea is to make your opponent uncomfortable and to throw them off with whatever works. Wether that be coming into net often, or pounding their backhand or driving them back and then hitting drop shots.
Every opponent is different and it’s always a challenge to figure out what combination of shots is effective against that player. When I started playing league tennis the first thing I found out is most all players are very consistent and they are not going to beat themselves. Their also not going to try and blast shots all the time and make a bunch of errors. So it’s a tough game and I found I have to grind it out until I find a combination that will work.
In my winter league I played in I went 5-1 and I had some opponents complaining like you are about not hitting consistent pace and using chips and drop shots. I just figured well they are just poor losers. When I drive a looping topspin shot deep and they start playing well behind the baseline I’m going to hit a dropper. It’s no different than baseball you hit it where they ain’t.
This is the first sport I’ve played in where the opponents will complain a lot about the opponents style so much. Regardless of the style if you can’t beat it then your opponent was better on that day. It would be like playing baseball and telling the pitcher you only want to see fastballs because you can’t hit curve balls well.
Well baseball has some oddities as well like you’re not supposed to bunt to beat the shift. When you do, the opposing team gets their panties all in a bunch.
Baseball has MANY crazy unwritten rules!This is true there can be complaining in any sport but tennis seems to be the worst.
There are no style points in tennis. Don't get it mixed up with another sport.
Basically if yr in a CC FH rally can smash. And of course if u get a short ball above net on FH. Everything else is normally running guy around so that u get that shot.
I played a league match against a guy who only sliced once (on grass) i found loopy balls he hated. It would be hard to slice on really high balls i thinkNo 1 4.0 player in my club is a slice/dropshot junk baller with a good serve. I couldn't win a set off him yet and i am 10 years younger haha.
Most players fall 0.5-1.0 NTRP once they play formal matches until they can deal with playing under pressure. Just saying.
Definitive answer to the question of what to work on to counter a junk ballers game: Avoidance.
Life is too short to put up with one trick ponies that won't play an enjoyable game of tennis. Yes i could spend weeks learning counters to all these "special snowflakes". But the agony and annoyance wouldn't be worth it. That's why a lot of people don't play leagues. You have to put up with the oddballs that use a specialty shot they've honed in the backyard to defeat people. If you played these people all the time you'd naturally figure them out, but the league system offers them the element of surprise. And of course the encounter is so unpleasant you never add them to your tennis buddies list.
I used to hate junk ballers and lob queens. But now I'm like " Bring it!" Yes trading strong baseline rallies is a blast, but I want to learn how to deal with everything. The junk ballers and lob queens only exposed my own weakness of inconsistencies. Now I welcome them so I can show I can consistently deal with anything that is thrown at me.I'm of a different view: I want to pick up those skills to deal with every kind of style. I enjoy league and tournaments and I can't choose my opponent. Therefore, I want the tools to do the job and am willing to put in the work to acquire them.
Work on your movement and footwork.No 1 4.0 player in my club is a slice/dropshot junk baller with a good serve. I couldn't win a set off him yet and i am 10 years younger haha.
I'm of a different view: I want to pick up those skills to deal with every kind of style. I enjoy league and tournaments and I can't choose my opponent. Therefore, I want the tools to do the job and am willing to put in the work to acquire them.
I used to hate junk ballers and lob queens. But now I'm like " Bring it!" Yes trading strong baseline rallies is a blast, but I want to learn how to deal with everything. The junk ballers and lob queens only exposed my own weakness of inconsistencies. Now I welcome them so I can show I can consistently deal with anything that is thrown at me.
LOL!i was rated TTW3.5... i'm hoping to get a bump to TTW4.0 soon. i working hard at improving my ISR, pomo fh, and 360 serve.... will post vid and request TDaniels to give an official eval.
That kid's 10? Wow, just a freak of nature. Must be nice to have talent.Anyone guess a set score the OP vs this girl?