Players to be automatically removed from tournament if they 'leave bubble' - US Open protocols revealed

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https://opencourt.ca/wordpress/2020/08/04/answers-usta-covid-19-logistics/

The US Open will be using the swab test. They anticipate getting the results back within 24 hours. It’s mandatory; the antibody test is recommended, but not mandatory. Players and support staff will be tested again 48 hours later, although in the interim they will have access to the site. Those who don’t take the antibody test (or have negative antibodies) will be re-tested every four days; those with positive antibody results, every seven days.

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If a player tests positive, he or she will be immediately isolated for 10 days. If they’ve already started their tournament, they will be automatically withdrawn. If a player is sharing a room with a guest, and that guest tests positive, the player will be required to self-isolate for 14 days. The USTA doesn’t recommend the sharing of rooms and even if a player is allowed to bring up to three people (two per room, two rooms), they prefer that the player bring only one team member, each to his or her room.

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*If a player “leaves the bubble” without written permission from the Chief Medical Officer or tournament director Stacey Allaster, the player will be removed from the tournament. They would get the ranking points from the last round they completed, and pay a financial penalty. If a coach or player guest leaves, the guest or coach’s credential will be revoked and they must leave the hotel within 24 hours. There will also be a fine, and that guest will not be able to attend the 2021 US Open, either.

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About time we have protocols. They seem fine to me except if things go south.

They have no protocol for when too many cases is too many. But I don't see more than maybe a couple. Still could make the tourney a sham if it is late in the tourney.

Don't like that a coach can get C19 but the player can still play. Seems likely the player would get it too.
 
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I like how we're all supposed to pretend that professional tennis players are at risk from the virus. Hasn't anyone looked at the demographic data about the risk characteristics?

The only people at any risk are the elderly umpires/commentators, etc.
 
So, I was right, and if there is a positive nothing will happen other than the player/person in question being removed. What happened with "if there is a positive case we will stop the tournament immediately" which was the original pledge? Where is the cutoff for when the tournament could be halted?

USO organisers will remove Djokovic, if he "leaves the bubble" and it is not done openly and as a demonstration.

Does anyone believe that?

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Tennis_Hands said:
So, I was right, and if there is a positive nothing will happen other than the player/person in question being removed. What happened with "if there is a positive case we will stop the tournament immediately" which was the original pledge? Where is the cutoff for when the tournament could be halted?

USO organisers will remove Djokovic, if he "leaves the bubble" and it is not done openly and as a demonstration.

Does anyone believe that?

:cool:
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Sends someone to pick up one of those backdated get out of jail cards.:sneaky::whistle:

“If a player “leaves the bubble” without written permission from the Chief Medical Officer or tournament director Stacey Allaster, the player will be removed from the tournament.“
 
Rosstour said:
But he has his own apartment he wants to stay in.
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It’s all good. The “bubble“ is whatever they make it. And it may be expanded too.;)

“If a player “leaves the bubble” without written permission from the Chief Medical Officer or tournament director Stacey Allaster, the player will be removed from the tournament.“
 
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Tennis_Hands said:
So, I was right, and if there is a positive nothing will happen other than the player/person in question being removed. What happened with "if there is a positive case we will stop the tournament immediately" which was the original pledge? Where is the cutoff for when the tournament could be halted?

USO organisers will remove Djokovic, if he "leaves the bubble" and it is not done openly and as a demonstration.

Does anyone believe that?

:cool:
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They will back date his letter of approval to leave the bubble ...
 
All eyes will be on Djokovic.
We will see if he is an example or not in these times so hopeless for humanity.
:X3:
 
Tennis_Hands said:
So, I was right, and if there is a positive nothing will happen other than the player/person in question being removed. What happened with "if there is a positive case we will stop the tournament immediately" which was the original pledge? Where is the cutoff for when the tournament could be halted?

USO organisers will remove Djokovic, if he "leaves the bubble" and it is not done openly and as a demonstration.

Does anyone believe that?

:cool:
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When USO officially said what you claim they said?
"if there is a positive case we will stop the tournament immediately"
Quote please...
 
beard said:
When USO officially said what you claim they said?
"if there is a positive case we will stop the tournament immediately"
Quote please...
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You will never get the quote because there is none.
Ignore the :cool: Troll spreading lies and misinformation. It was never said.

Let me know if you ever receive the quote and I will respond.
:rolleyes:

The U$TA is not going to take all the trouble of insisting on holding a tournament and then cancelling after a single positive.

The show will go on.

But if everyone follows the rules of the carefully constructed biosecure NYC bubble, the chances of infection will be very minimal.

Practice physical distancing and masking with everyone. Even with your Coach and Masseuse. Do not share hotel room with anyone. Use common sense. Don't be a Dunderhead.

You can put me in the that biosecure NYC bubble any day.
I am much safer inside of that bubble than living in the outside world.
 
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If Djoker and others have tested positive, in theory they should be immune and the safest person to be around, even if they leave the bubble.
 
beard said:
When USO officially said what you claim they said?
"if there is a positive case we will stop the tournament immediately"
Quote please...
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It was Stacey Allaster, who said that if there is a problem at the US Open the tournament will be stopped, and she was asked by a journalist what happens if someone tests positive. That was early days, before USO came up with their "plan".

Then there is that: "
U.S. Open facilities will be equipped to rapidly screen and test players to ensure the major tournament runs with minimal interruptions this summer, U.S. Tennis Association Chief Revenue Officer Lew Sherr said Thursday.
Tennis officials are enacting strict safety standards, including temperature checks and coronavirus testing, to maintain a safe playing environment at the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center in New York. While a positive test for COVID-19 would result in a player’s withdrawal from the tournament, Sherr said any other medical screen results that raised alarms would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis."

So, ever since they announced reluctantly that they intend to hold it, they started off with what I said, to appease the public that if the worst happens there will be no need for the people to be worried, if it will continue, and then gradually backed off, little by little, first by announcing that any medical situation will be evaluated separately, and then getting even more limited in their "plan" by removing only the player that eventually tested positive.

All that while we were promised "the plan" of which no one has seen anything regarding different medical scenarios.

All in all USTA has directly announced that financial concerns take precedence over anything else and their "plan" is effectively an instrument to do the necessary PR, so that the tournament wouldn't be cancelled.

:cool:
 
Good. Players who don't follow protocol should be removed from the tournament without question, no matter who it is. No one should be above the rules of the sport.
 
TripleATeam said:
I disagree. No one should be above the rules of the sport, period. Unless it ends up being something serious like they have to be taken to the hospital because of a broken bone, I want every player respecting that bubble.
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"That bubble" has an almost hilarious sound to it ever since one particular poster started preaching the "bubble" gospel.

The truth is that USTA has already announced that they care first and foremost about their money, and also that they have no intention whatsoever to shed light over how they are going to approach the matters, if there is a serious medical issue at the tournament. All they are focused on is to "assure" that "the bubble" TM, will be enough. Doubtful that they believe that, as they are also not willing to put their money where their mouth is, and will let the players sign a waiver that will free USO from any responsibility should something grave happen. It is a rotten scheme top to bottom, and the players and the other participants should pray that nothing really happens, otherwise they are screwed and on their own.

Yeah, everyone respecting the rules would be nice, but the organisers already built a back door even into that.

:cool:
 
Your beloved event has become a national championship, so you've lost that round too.

The show will, indeed, go on ... but, in another sense, it is already over.

Raul_SJ said:
You will never get the quote because there is none.

The U$TA is not going to take all the trouble of insisting on holding a tournament and then cancelling after a single positive.

The show will go on.
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Tennis_Hands said:
"That bubble" has an almost hilarious sound to it ever since one particular poster started preaching the "bubble" gospel.

The truth is that USTA has already announced that they care first and foremost about their money, and also that they have no intention whatsoever to shed light over how they are going to approach the matters, if there is a serious medical issue at the tournament. All they are focused on is to "assure" that "the bubble" TM, will be enough. Doubtful that they believe that, as they are also not willing to put their money where their mouth is, and will let the players sign a waiver that will free USO from any responsibility should something grave happen. It is a rotten scheme top to bottom, and the players and the other participants should pray that nothing really happens, otherwise they are screwed and on their own.

Yeah, everyone respecting the rules would be nice, but the organisers already built a back door even into that.

:cool:
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in June the USTA laid off 110 people(20% of their staff), so obviously they aren’t in a great state. I’m not sure they will be making money off holding this years USO. there are articles that show the most $ they make yearly is from ticket sales and there are none this year. The tv deals are from existing contacts. It’s impressive that they are even able to equal prize money from last year(and some players like Cilic complained there was no increase In money this year)

I’m a little uneasy that this event is going on, but I think many of you are being a bit harsh. There are many threads here year after talking about how hard it is to make a living as a pro player. I’m sure players ranked 75-200(some even went on unemployment benefits when the tour shut down) are pretty thrilled they have a chance to make some money this year. Many coaches basically only get paid when their player gets paid. I’m sure they are struggling right now, so many of them are also thrilled to have a chance to make money. Wangs coach was recently fired, there are probably a lot more that have been fired over the last few months we haven’t heard about. He mentioned before he was fired that he tried to get a reduced salary from her when the tour shut down, but she refused. I doubt most players are paying their teams anything right now(and lower ranked players probably can’t afford to).

the pandemic has obviously changed the world, but I fear tennis(more so than team sports which have billion dollar stadiums that are named after huge companies supporting them and built in fan bases going back decades) will never recover unless some of the majors at least try. Sadly, most on here only care about the big 3 and the slam race, not the bigger picture of what the USO can give to the sport, especially right now.

the trickle down effect will soon be seen in 2021. Small tourneys have mentioned how much of a struggle it is to even break even, do you think they will all survive? why would a sponsor for a 250 or 500 event sign on for another year of the event if it gets cancelled In ‘20 or ‘21? A lot of these companies that are sponsors have been hit hard by the pandemic. You think if Auckland, Rotterdam, etc lose their sponsor it will be easy to get another one? I don’t think many of you realize how bad it’s gonna get. So many people have lost their jobs, and you think tennis can just cancel every event indefinitely and the structure of the calendar and draw sizes, prize money will remain the same? All I can say is enjoy pro tennis while you can, there’s probably gonna be a lot less of it in the years to come.
 
Moose Malloy said:
in June the USTA laid off 110 people(20% of their staff), so obviously they aren’t in a great state. I’m not sure they will be making money off holding this years USO. there are articles that show the most $ they make yearly is from ticket sales and there are none this year. The tv deals are from existing contacts. It’s impressive that they are even able to equal prize money from last year(and some players like Cilic complained there was no increase In money this year)

I’m a little uneasy that this event is going on, but I think many of you are being a bit harsh. There are many threads here year after talking about how hard it is to make a living as a pro player. I’m sure players ranked 75-200(some even went on unemployment benefits when the tour shut down) are pretty thrilled they have a chance to make some money this year. Many coaches basically only get paid when their player gets paid. I’m sure they are struggling right now, so many of them are also thrilled to have a chance to make money. Wangs coach was recently fired, there are probably a lot more that have been fired over the last few months we haven’t heard about. He mentioned before he was fired that he tried to get a reduced salary from her when the tour shut down, but she refused. I doubt most players are paying their teams anything right now(and lower ranked players probably can’t afford to).

the pandemic has obviously changed the world, but I fear tennis(more so than team sports which have billion dollar stadiums that are named after huge companies supporting them and built in fan bases going back decades) will never recover unless some of the majors at least try. Sadly, most on here only care about the big 3 and the slam race, not the bigger picture of what the USO can give to the sport, especially right now.

the trickle down effect will soon be seen in 2021. Small tourneys have mentioned how much of a struggle it is to even break even, do you think they will all survive? why would a sponsor for a 250 or 500 event sign on for another year of the event if it gets cancelled In ‘20 or ‘21? A lot of these companies that are sponsors have been hit hard by the pandemic. You think if Auckland, Rotterdam, etc lose their sponsor it will be easy to get another one? I don’t think many of you realize how bad it’s gonna get. So many people have lost their jobs, and you think tennis can just cancel every event indefinitely and the structure of the calendar and draw sizes, prize money will remain the same? All I can say is enjoy pro tennis while you can, there’s probably gonna be a lot less of it in the years to come.
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The world is in shambles, I agree.
It is sad but true.
:cry:
 
Moose Malloy said:
in June the USTA laid off 110 people(20% of their staff), so obviously they aren’t in a great state. I’m not sure they will be making money off holding this years USO. there are articles that show the most $ they make yearly is from ticket sales and there are none this year.
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The U$TA is not engaged in altruistic endeavours.

They heavily rely on the annual U.S. Open event for funding. Which typically compromises ticket sales, food/souvenirs and TV.

ESPN is paying them $70 million.

Have to believe they get zero or very little if tournament is not held.
 
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