Players want more money
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Theferael_me
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No, they want a bigger cut of the revenue. It's nothing but pure greed from many of them who are already millionaires many, many times over. Wimbledon has two weeks to make its cash to sustain it for the rest of the year, unlike a football stadium that generates cash week in, week out. The top tennis players are already extremely well paid, both in terms of prize money and vast amounts of sponsorship cash. The slams should call their bluff.
Better_Call_Raul
Legend
Wrong. The players do not want a bigger share of the profits.
The players want a bigger share of the REVENUE PIE.
The players have no comprehension that there are huge costs and expenses to conducting an event.
Roland Garros prize money has generously increased year over year for the last 20 years.
The spectators attend the slams to see the elite players. The Top 100.
While Challenger Events featuring players with an average ranking of 200 are attended by a few dozen people.
Our favourite Bart would not attend a Challenger Event if you gave him free tickets.
The ATP #100-ranked player will often be earning well over a million a year.
Where is it written that the #200 player is owed a living?
If you can't reach the Top 100, kindly find something else to do.
That’s why the young Sinner and the screechy Sabalinka threatening a Slam boycott are just lip service.
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nighthawkrr
Professional
One thing that shocked me is the more I make the more chill the job becomes. To me a chill job that pays the bills lets me afford US Open tickets and live near NYC for the best art, shows and food.
DSH
Bionic Poster
Pheasant
Legend
This is just business as usual. However, tennis is behind the NBA, NFL, NHL, and MLB by a few decades. I’m surprised that it took tennis this long.
That said, it’s still sad to see the greed bleed through from both sides. Ultimately, it will mean that the fans will pay a lot more to attend sporting events. And it ultimately means that the players themselves will become more and more separated from the fans.
A former NFL player spoke about this on a local radio show. He said that back in his prime, he would tailgate with the fans after a game. They’d grill him up a steak and he’d stay around and shoot the breeze with some fans. But nowadays, the players are completely isolated from the fans. He also said that back then, you could bring a family of 4 to a game for 80.00, which included food and beverage. Nowadays, it’s 1000.00 to do the same thing.
That said, it’s still sad to see the greed bleed through from both sides. Ultimately, it will mean that the fans will pay a lot more to attend sporting events. And it ultimately means that the players themselves will become more and more separated from the fans.
A former NFL player spoke about this on a local radio show. He said that back in his prime, he would tailgate with the fans after a game. They’d grill him up a steak and he’d stay around and shoot the breeze with some fans. But nowadays, the players are completely isolated from the fans. He also said that back then, you could bring a family of 4 to a game for 80.00, which included food and beverage. Nowadays, it’s 1000.00 to do the same thing.
Better_Call_Raul
Legend
Slam ticket prices are already out of reach for the vast majority.
We have no problem with slams raising ticket prices; the wealthy can easily afford.
The problem is that both the pampered spoiled players and the greedy organizers are refusing to share the revenue pie with stadium event workers.
Let's say the player share of revenue is increased from 11% to 22%.
Will the players distribute any of that to the struggling event workers? Answer: No!
Will the players negotiate for higher wages for event workers? Answer: No!
To the contrary, the organizers will squeeze the stadium workers more to pay the players.
Both corrupt sides need to start there first. With the truly exploited event workers.
Stadium and hospitality workers demand better wages ahead of Houston World Cup events
Workers say rising prices and growing crowds should also mean better pay.
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So Sinner and Saba are lying and will never boycott when push comes to shove? You saying they will back down about more profit ?Wrong. The players do not want a bigger share of the profits.
The players want a bigger share of the REVENUE PIE.
The players have no comprehension that there are huge costs and expenses to conducting an event.
Roland Garros prize money has generously increased year over year for the last 20 years.
The spectators attend the slams to see the elite players. The Top 100.
While Challenger Events featuring players with an average ranking of 200 are attended by a few dozen people.
Our favourite Bart would not attend a Challenger Event if you gave him free tickets.
The ATP #100-ranked player will often be earning well over a million a year.
Where is it written that the #200 player is owed a living?
If you can't reach the Top 100, kindly find something else to do.
That’s why the young Sinner and the screechy Sabalinka threatening a Slam boycott are just lip service.
So why do fans still go ? If the demand was not there for ticket prices no one would go. Why they getting sell outs still if it’s so out of reach for for avg ppl?
StefanosRespecter
Professional
I think it's ridiculous that players outside of the top 100 will lose money in a year when accounting for coaches/training/travel.
Top 200 at least should be able to make a living from the sport.
Top 200 at least should be able to make a living from the sport.
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
Totally agree
This is more of Novak’s BS. He realized the PTPA was dead in the water, jumped ship and is now getting Sinner and Sabalenka to be the faces of his next power play against the tour.
He wonders why he isn’t beloved?
big ted
G.O.A.T.
the thing is nobody wants to see players outside the top 100 so they get paid what they deserve
Do plastic fans have to say sorry to players ranked 150-200, for lacking interest in them?
You claim next power play but didn’t say what, why not ?
big ted
G.O.A.T.
huh?
Devilito
Legend
******** TITLE. Players don't want, "more money", they want a fair percentage of the rake, which implies more money because tournaments are making record amounts and not sharing the profits. Also, top players aren't being greedy. They constantly say that more of that money should be funneled to lower ranked players.
Razer
G.O.A.T.
I think Djokovic's ways have always been like that of a rebel, he has never been pro establishment. He comes across as a divisive force while Federer was always promoting what the sponsors and establishment wanted to make the sport bigger, Nadal also played along following Roger's footsteps. Novak has always been about breaking the wheel type of a guy.
NachoGPT
Hall of Fame
Djokovic is CM Punk. Nadal is John Cena and Federer is HHH
Razer
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is CM Punk. Nadal is John Cena and Federer is HHH
Yes that kind of an analogy could work too when we are strictly talking of PG era only by pretending attitude era never existed.
NachoGPT
Hall of Fame
Razer
G.O.A.T.
WWF/E parallels don't work in Tennis.
The stars of 1990s Hbk/Undertaker/Austin/Rock were all pretty larger than life and yet none of them went against Vince McMahon who was the establishment of WWE always.
The only person who went against Vince was Bret the Hitman Hart, so unless you are ready to compare Djokovic to the HItman, none of this will work. I know you don't like Bret Hart because he was as boring as Sampras, but then from a rebellious aspect he was like Djokovic maybe. So these parallels all fall flat because you cannot find Big 3 parallels in WWE.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
It's unfortunate that, except for Alcaraz and Sunner, the tour is only worth half a coin at most.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Bret Hart being boring certainly is a view. 
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THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Talent's current personal financial resources are not to be used to determine how much they earn as they continue to work and generate profits for the organizations behind the sport. They (the players) are not there as a charity service for organizations raking in millions from the players and sponsors.
...and the organizations will lose. Without the players, what do the organizations have to offer to keep themselves alive?
Where is it written that the individual is not owed a living in their chosen profession--the expectation of every profession in the world?
Agreed.
Sabalenka has broader shoulders than Sinner. She's huge.Wrong. The players do not want a bigger share of the profits.
The players want a bigger share of the REVENUE PIE.
The players have no comprehension that there are huge costs and expenses to conducting an event.
Roland Garros prize money has generously increased year over year for the last 20 years.
The spectators attend the slams to see the elite players. The Top 100.
While Challenger Events featuring players with an average ranking of 200 are attended by a few dozen people.
Our favourite Bart would not attend a Challenger Event if you gave him free tickets.
The ATP #100-ranked player will often be earning well over a million a year.
Where is it written that the #200 player is owed a living?
If you can't reach the Top 100, kindly find something else to do.
That’s why the young Sinner and the screechy Sabalinka threatening a Slam boycott are just lip service.
nighthawkrr
Professional
The US Open is actually reasonably priced for NYC. Of course a tourist is gonna think it’s expensive. But a Knicks or Rangers game is around the same price for a lot less action.
Also a lot of older folks myself included have felt the shock of inflation. My grandparents had the same shock .
Either way they want more money for lower ranked to , and a larger percentage of profits equals more money . They believe they have bargaining power to want more , they clearly ain’t settling don’t act like they are settling .
You said tourists will find it expensive as will older folk ? So who doesn’t find it expensive then ? Which demographic is cool with the current prices to rangers games ?
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Admit it, you like Novak better and think Fed is a yes man.
The top 100 players are good only due to the competition they faced when they played the current lower-ranked players, and the excitement is about the next lower-ranked player who will break into the top 100.Wrong. The players do not want a bigger share of the profits.
The players want a bigger share of the REVENUE PIE.
The players have no comprehension that there are huge costs and expenses to conducting an event.
Roland Garros prize money has generously increased year over year for the last 20 years.
The spectators attend the slams to see the elite players. The Top 100.
While Challenger Events featuring players with an average ranking of 200 are attended by a few dozen people.
Our favourite Bart would not attend a Challenger Event if you gave him free tickets.
The ATP #100-ranked player will often be earning well over a million a year.
Where is it written that the #200 player is owed a living?
If you can't reach the Top 100, kindly find something else to do.
That’s why the young Sinner and the screechy Sabalinka threatening a Slam boycott are just lip service.
Razer
G.O.A.T.
Depends, being a rebel always is not good, being a yes man everywhere is not good either. In Federer's case he was so popular that things went his way and he did not always have to say yes to things he did not like.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Our resident communist wants you to think he is for the downtrodden workers, just like Don the Con!
Slam ticket prices are already out of reach for the vast majority.
We have no problem with slams raising ticket prices; the wealthy can easily afford.
The problem is that both the pampered spoiled players and the greedy organizers are refusing to share the revenue pie with stadium event workers.
Let's say the player share of revenue is increased from 11% to 22%.
Will the players distribute any of that to the struggling event workers? Answer: No!
Will the players negotiate for higher wages for event workers? Answer: No!
To the contrary, the organizers will squeeze the stadium workers more to pay the players.
Both corrupt sides need to start there first. With the truly exploited event workers.
Stadium and hospitality workers demand better wages ahead of Houston World Cup events
Workers say rising prices and growing crowds should also mean better pay.
BorgTheGOAT
G.O.A.T.
Back in the day you could watch a football match in Germany of a top team for 8 Euro per ticket. Today even for the middle teams you have to pay 20-30 Euro min. In England it is even worse. English football fans start to watch women football or traveling with cheap flights to Germany to watch away games of their teams (which is sometimes still cheaper than watching it at home).
BorgTheGOAT
G.O.A.T.
It is completely fine for the players to demand a higher revenue share. Fact is the players are the ones generating the money, without them there would be zero money to begin with. I really wonder, if the share is so low for the players who else gets the money. Useless organizers or ATP functionals?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
BorgTheGOAT
G.O.A.T.
Fedal are both yes-sayers who typically replicate whatever sponsors want to hear. Nadal went at least a little against that when he was asked about that equal prize money nonsense, but Fed actually says everything exactly how PR manager tells him. When asked he even said that Serena is the overall GOAT men and women after what happened to McEnroe. Completely lame. Then again, he also has this gentleman image built which he has to milk unlike Rafa and Novak.
Razer
G.O.A.T.
Rebelling against sponsors is foolishness, they bring the big money. Federer understand this and he also understands that he has the image which he can utilize. Djokovic has 0 image, he tried to do comedy and blend in with everyone but that backfired. Djokovic got some respect in 2011 after he usurped the throne from Nadal, that was the point when even Nadal family started to take him seriously. Until 2011 Nadal was "friends" with Nole in a way that the most popular boy in university would have sidekicks trying to help him lure the girl. All the friendship vanishes if the girl takes a liking to one of the friends of this so called popular guy.... thats what happened with DJokodal, suddenly Nadal's friendship was over when Novak was no longer Beta. So I would say Novak's image that he gained of the rebel in 2011 was good but the audinece were never going to like him, so he does not have to maintain any political correctness like Federer. Novak still tried to blend in by saying politically correct words, that did not go down well with Fed-Dal fans as they accused him of being fake.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
We saw that they were only getting something like 14%, while players in the NFL NBA, etc. we’re getting 50%
So I think they should definitely get the players more money, especially the lower level players so we can help foster better talent to come up and mix things up
StefanosRespecter
Professional
Do people even want to see players outside of the top 30?
ForehandCross
G.O.A.T.
You do know this is the worst possible argument?
The players ranked below 100 make the tour "A tour". The players you see on television are result of a funnel framework created by the lower ranked ones.
The stars in their youth can't just walk into a the top 100. They need the structured growth as they develop into actual top 100 players. Something that is provided by the lower ranked players and the challengers , 250s and 500s.
That's right. Every big shot athletes in other sports want to maximize their earnings too. They pay hefty money on agents to handle contract negotiation and secure endorsements to maximize the athlete's career earnings and opportunities. Lebron James, Juan Soto for example...money comes first, winning is second.
Money talks
big ted
G.O.A.T.
Players below 100 make the tour BUT they’re nameless .. meaning they’re easily expendable. What if the players ranked 100-200 boycotted tennis? Nothing! players below them will take their place and im sure nobody would even know the difference in playing level ! And believe you me the players below would love to take their place with the current prize $ !
big ted
G.O.A.T.
i would but im hard core like that . I wouldn’t watch outside top 100 tho thats amateur tennis
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