Players we never talk about

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
My list:

Andrei Medvedev

Richard Krajicek

Andres Gomez

Michael Stich

Sergi Bruguera
I really enjoyed Medvedev's game. Does anyone know what he is doing these days? Also, Stich had such a powerful and effortless serve, and great game. Did he leave the tour due to injuries or for other reasons?
 

fezer

Rookie
I really enjoyed Medvedev's game. Does anyone know what he is doing these days? Also, Stich had such a powerful and effortless serve, and great game. Did he leave the tour due to injuries or for other reasons?
stich had serious shoulder problems. that made him leave the tour. in 96 he was not sure, wether to play rg due to bad preparation. then he delivered one of his masterpieces with his final run beating muster in 4 sets (rd16). but the final vs kafelnikov showed once more that he lacked the ultimate will. he was up a break in every set and lost all of them...
stich was the prototype of a fair weather player. he was simply unstoppable when he felt fine. even sampras, becker or edberg - stich beat them so easily on his day - but michael couldnt handle pressure and was rarely ready to fight.
a very intelligent person btw and also a very talented soccer player. he could have become an alltime great - no doubt
 
Nalbandian, Rios, corretja and pioline are all slam finalists, so i think they get talked about.
Safin, Guga, Rafter, Korda, noah, cashy, krajicek and stichw ere awesome, too, but they won slams.

I am going to go with some sweet players who rarely get a mention in the grand scheme.

Magnus norman. One-time Rg finalist. Great coach. Effort and character all the way.

Thomas johansson. Oz open champ. Huge serve for a shorter guy.

Ronald agenor. What a game. Like a smaller Yannick noah, with reat technique.

Jakob hlasek. Beautiful, strong game.

Wojtek fibak. One of the finest slice backhands ever. Great tactician.

Jose luis clerc. Had it all.

Carlos kirmayr. Quick guy. All around great game.

Nicolas pereira of venezuela. Beautiful, exciting game.

Jamie oncins, similar.

Alberto mancini. Awesome one hander.

Roberto carretero. Stocky spanish guy who hit a very heavy ball. Won hamburg, then partied a ton. Never made it back.

Hicham arazi. Like an underpowered rios or mcenroe. Joy to watch.

Derrick rostagno. Vw bus. Quick like cat at net. Cool guy.

Jeff borowiak. Completely cool, laid back guy. Tough on the court.

Tom gorman. Irish-american from the great state of washington. Davis cup captain.

I always loved watching marcos baghdatis.

Fernando gonzalez always drew a crowd with his forehand. Not a bad slice bh, either.

Ramesh krishnan was so smooth.

Jaime yzaga once beat sampras at the us open.

Mark filappoussis had a fantastic game, especially when he was healthy. Throttled sampras once, in melbourne.

Tommy robredo and tommy haas.

Daniel evans has a nice game.

I always enjoyed seeing the tall south African davis cupper, izak van der merwe.

Show and tells with juan balcells.

James blake and his crazy/confident shot selection.

Fat Tuesday (mardy) Fish. I don't always like two handed backhands. But when i do, i prefer mardy fish's.

Marc kevin goellner has a nice game.

So did alex antonitsch.

Alexandr volkov. Served and approached a lot.

Karel novacek.

Tomas smid.

Martin jaite.

Kent carlsson. Topspin forehand. Western grip. Not a fan, but he deserves a mention.

Paul haarhuis.

Jacco eltingh.

Sjeng schalken. Got to a us open semi with not much of a serve.

Leander paes. What an animal at the net.

Mikael pernfors.

Johan kriek.
 

urban

Legend
Fine selection, slice. I remember a day in Hamburg, when Arazi completely destroyed Thomas Muster on clay, and Muster was near his peak and still a clay monster. Arazi won the last game with four aces - on clay. I also remember a fantastic match between Arazi and Rios at RG, which Arazi won in four sets. Arazi was one of the very few guys since Laver, who could direct and dominate play with his one-handed backhand.
 
I really enjoyed Medvedev's game. Does anyone know what he is doing these days? Also, Stich had such a powerful and effortless serve, and great game. Did he leave the tour due to injuries or for other reasons?

Stich is a true all-courter, has every shot in tennis wiki and very tactical player. He is one of very few people who can handle Sampras. His knowledge about tennis is good and he's funny guy. It's shame that he suffered a lot of injuries. When his game is ON, well...

Medvedev is a talent, he played like Kafelnikov, but has a little more power. He was touted as the next champion but his problem that he didn't love tennis, he's the kind of person where you can't tell him what to do, because he won't do it, unless he feels like it.

When he made the RG final, he was basically already on the verge of hanging it up. He went up with Agassi at a club just before the tournament, and he said to hang in there, that he was at a similar road a few years ago, and that he had the talent and it would turn around. Then, bam, he make the finals ranked I believe like 66 or something at the time, knocks out the defending champion Kuerten in straight sets in I think the second round, and has Agassi in the ropes in the final.

Really, that was an absolute GIFT from Agassi, he was choking so bad, but Medevedev was on fire too. He let it slip away, but the important thing to note is that while he may have let it slip away, Agassi didn't just go away

He also did have some injury problems mid career, but more so I think his problem was simply that he was too stubborn. He needed someone to push him over the hump, but the problem was that once he got rich enough, he fired anyone who would push him according Lepeshkin (old school Russian coach)
 

Gizo

Hall of Fame
Adrian Voinea – Had a pretty big forehand which was his main weapon a nice one hand backhand. He was fairly tall but quite thin and not exactly a physical specimen. Unfortunately his career was cut short by shoulder and lower back problems. He reached the quarter-finals at RG in 1995, beating Becker in 4 sets in the 3rd round and then Chesnokov before falling to Chang. He won the title at Bournemouth in 1999. He beat the world no.1 Muster at Indian Wells in 1996.

Bernd Karbacher – Had a unorthodox but effective service motion and a big forehand which were his 2 main weapons, but his fitness or lack of it was a major weakness, as he often tired easily in longer matches. He won his titles at Cologne in 1992 (beating Muster in the semis) and at Bastad in 1994 (beating the favourite Skoff in the final). He was the opponent in Lendl’s final professional match at the 1994 US Open, winning the 1st set and coming from 0-5 down and holding off 9 set points in the 2nd set, before Lendl’s back was in too much pain for him to continue. He reached the quarter-finals there and at RG in 1996 where he thumped Ivanisevic in R4. He had numerous other victories over top players i.e. Sampras at Indianapolis in 1995.

Ronald Agenor – He had excellent groundstrokes and good court movement, along with a decent serve. He was a very flashy, talented player who was a lot of fun to watch. His main success was on clay, with him reaching the quarter-finals at RG in 1989, and winning 2 of his 3 titles on the surface. He had a lot of big wins over elite players i.e. Agassi, Wilander etc, but had problems with his consistency. He retired in 1996, then came back in 1998, broke into the top 100 again, and played in an entertaining match against the world no. 1 Kuerten at Montreal in 2001, He retired for a second time aged 37 in 2002, but then played in a challenge event as recently as 2009 aged 44.

Andrew Ilie – Often adapted a ‘go for broke’, kamikaze strategy, with little margin for error from the baseline. He was spectacular to watch when in good form, and the media loved him as he was accessible and outspoken. He was also famous for his post-victory celebrations, when he ripped his shirt off hulk style. His best grand slam results both came at home at the Australian Open with him reaching the 4th round there in 1999 and 2001 (beating Ferrero in R2 and losing in 4 sets to Agassi). He won both of his titles on green clay in the USA. Unfortunately things went downhill for him after his performances in a Davis Cup tie in Buenos Aires in 2002. He was beaten badly in both of his matches by Gaudio and Chela (although the second one was a dead rubber), and was accused of showing a lack of effort and partying the night before the dead rubber. His relationship with Tennis Australia hit the rocks after that. He retired due to chronic back injury problems.
 

urban

Legend
From the German players of the 90s i remember Karsten Braasch, who had an unorthodox lefty style with a wicked service motion. Probably his best result was a 6-0,-6-1 over Venus Wiliams.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Men
Grosjean- never achieved much but I always loved watching him play
Corretja
Stich
Haas
Johansson - OK honestly there have been a LOT of low profile interesting swedes through the years but he was always cool to watch

Women- all the following were top 10 but never really did much...all had gusto though
Chanda Rubin
Patty Schnyder
Ai Sugiyama
Maggie Maleeva
Brenda Schultz - gosh that serve, sadly she didn't have a ton else going for her
 

Capulin Zurdo

Hall of Fame
My list:

Andrei Medvedev

Richard Krajicek

Andres Gomez

Michael Stich

Sergi Bruguera
Good list. Thanks to everyone for posting; as I haven't known some of the players mentioned here and learned about them. I also wanted t mention Richard Krajicek; I really enjoyed his matches against Sampras.
 

Mikael

Professional
How about the two Magnuses from the 90s, Gustafsson with his windmill forehand and Larsson, who showed great promise in the early 90s and then never really lived up to it. Both of them instrumental in Sweden winning the davis cup in 1997 and 1998, + reaching the final in 1996.

Speaking of that 1996 final reminds me of another forgotten Swede: Nicklas Kulti! What a heartbreaking loss in the 5th rubber to Arnaud Boetsch, after having held MPs. Big game but like Gustafsson and Larsson, never able to break out of the pack.
 

sabala

Semi-Pro
Slice BH beat me to Alberto Mancini so my pick is -

Slobodan,(Bobo) Zivojinovic...big boy tennis! Plus I like saying his name lol. I remember seeing him play Agassi at the At&T Challenge on tv in like 88' or so. That was the first match I ever recorded on our first VCR haha, wish I still had the tape. Good power tennis in that match!



edit: Looks like that match was at the 1988 Forest Hills tournament...

1988 – Andre Agassi defeats Slobodan Zivojinovic 7-5, 7-6 (2), 7-5 to win the WCT Tournament of Champions in front of 12, 898 fans at the West Side Tennis Club in Forest Hills, N.Y. The title is the most significant to date for the 18-year-old Agassi, who moves to an ATP ranking of No. 15 following the victory. Says Zivojinovic of Agassi, “It’s very difficult to say he’s good. He looks like he’s having a lot of fun, and he’s winning. I don’t know how long it’s [his outlook] going to stay – maybe a year, maybe forever. He doesn’t worry about the ball going in or out, winning or losing. He was a hell of a good player today, and with this tournament and maybe one more, he’ll be in the top 10.”
 
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Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
It seems like a disproportionate number of promising and successful Swedes had their tennis careers hampered and shortened by injuries. The list is long.

Andrei Chesnokov was an early player to have success going into the modern era for Russians. He was once shot by rubber bullets in Ukraine (about ten years ago) after arguing with some guys, and is now a coach.

Torben Ulrich is said to have been very talented. I haven't seen footage of his playing days, but would like to. He is now an artist, and his son, Lars, plays drums for Metallica.
 

vive le beau jeu !

Talk Tennis Guru
Slice BH beat me to Alberto Mancini so my pick is -

Slobodan,(Bobo) Zivojinovic...big boy tennis! Plus I like saying his name lol. I remember seeing him play Agassi at the At&T Challenge on tv in like 88' or so. That was the first match I ever recorded on our first VCR haha, wish I still had the tape. Good power tennis in that match!
good choice !

i remember when he led 5-2 in the 5th against wilander at RG 1988... unfortunately for him, it was one of the first times i TV-witnessed the possibility to "come back from the brink" in tennis !
(i also have some blur memories of the end of mcenroe-chang in the same round, but that wasn't close) ;)

some other names...
di pasquale ? yzaga ?
 
Oui, oui, di pasquale had agassi on the ropes at roland....i think 1999, the yr dre won it!

Adrian Voinea

Bernd Karbacher
Horst Skoff

Ronald Agenor

Andrew Ilie
Love this list, especially adrian voinea!

Slice BH beat me to Alberto Mancini so my pick is -

Slobodan,(Bobo) Zivojinovic...big boy tennis!
Haha, sorry to step ahead of you on mancini.

Bobo zivo!

If i may add...
Andrei pavel. Big one hander. Nicest guy on the tour (on a par with corretja in the class department).

Karsten braasch. Weirder serve than bernd karbacher or even the great steve denton.

Jean phillippe fleurian. Sweet one hander. Stylish game.

Florin segarceanu. Typical, smooth romanian.

Minhea nastase. Nephew of the great meesterr nastase.

Renzo furlan. An italian with a consonant at the end of his last name. Nice game. One hander. Once beat chang in san jose.

Sergio casal. The blondest spanish guy i have ever seen up close.

Vive le beau jeu mentioned jaime yzaga. Well done. Similar player: ramesh krishnan. Smaller guy, great feel and anticipation. Gave some big boys fits.

Is fabrice santoro too famous for this thread?
 
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Migelowsky

Semi-Pro
Raul Ramirez ( Mexico )

Singles
Highest ranking No. 4 (7 November 1976)
Grand Slam Singles results
French Open SF (1976, 1977)
Wimbledon SF (1976)
US Open QF (1978)
Other tournaments
Tour Finals SF (1974)
WCT Finals QF (1975, 1976, 1978)

Doubles
Highest ranking No. 1 (12 April 1976)
Grand Slam Doubles results
French Open W (1975, 1977)
Wimbledon W (1976)
US Open F (1977)

 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
Ramirez is a great name. Before my time, but I've been collecting the Annual World Tennis Books, and his name figures a great deal in the 70s.
Apparently quite a character.
 

Capulin Zurdo

Hall of Fame
Rafael Osuna (Mexico)- Was a former world no. 1 and won the U.S. Open in 1963 as well as winning grand slam doubles in Wimbledon and U.S. open. He also lead Mexico to a Davis Cup final in 1962.
 

kiki

Banned
Raul Ramirez ( Mexico )

Singles
Highest ranking No. 4 (7 November 1976)
Grand Slam Singles results
French Open SF (1976, 1977)
Wimbledon SF (1976)
US Open QF (1978)
Other tournaments
Tour Finals SF (1974)
WCT Finals QF (1975, 1976, 1978)

Doubles
Highest ranking No. 1 (12 April 1976)
Grand Slam Doubles results
French Open W (1975, 1977)
Wimbledon W (1976)
US Open F (1977)

Great you brought him up.He and Gottfried were a classic team in the 1970´s, but his singles record is excellent, too
He thumped Borg at Teheran 6-0,6-1, beat Connors in a DC classic ( after which Connors forgot about that competition) and beat in straight sets, the US Open champion Manuel Orantes at the cc Italian Open final in 1975 ( the Italian was second only to RG on clay)

he won the third biggest cc title at the Montecarlo Open in 1978, defeating the czech Tomas Smid

Unfortunately, he had a big set down by 1979, I think due to marriage.However, I remember him beating Adriano Panatta, the clay court artist, in a GP match played on clay, which Ramirez won in three tough sets after playing his best tennis for a while.

He was just as good on grass, hard and carpet as he was on clay; he used to play for UCLA during his junior days and felt equally comfortable on a fast or a slow court.
 
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Gizo

Hall of Fame
Michael Westphal. He took part in and won my favourite Davis Cup match of all time in 1985, when he staged a huge comeback to beat Tomas Smid 6-8 1-6 7-5 11-9 17-15, in 5 hours 29 minutes in Frankfurt. The win put Germany 2-0 ahead in their semi-final against Czechoslovakia, and made him a national hero. The match was interrupted twice when the very poorly laid carpet ripped as Westphal lunged for the ball (thankfully he didn't injure himself), and had to be fixed, and the 85 game contest lasted until after mid-night. He battled away pretty bravely in the final in his matches against Wilander and Edberg as well.

Westphal had very loose, free swinging groundstrokes, and his hair was pretty cool and made him look like a young popstar. He wasn't able to win a singles title, losing in 2 finals in 1984-1985. Unfortunately he died of AIDS in 1991 aged just 26. His girlfriend, an actress, later married and then divorced Stich, who was from the same town as him.
 
Good list. Thanks to everyone for posting; as I haven't known some of the players mentioned here and learned about them. I also wanted t mention Richard Krajicek; I really enjoyed his matches against Sampras.

Krajicek is one of my very favorite. He's one of very few people who can handle Sampras in Sampras's prime. When his serve is on, he's unbreakable. I do enjoy most of their matches too, he outaced Pete a lot
 

jaggy

Talk Tennis Guru
Michael Westphal. He took part in and won my favourite Davis Cup match of all time in 1985, when he staged a huge comeback to beat Tomas Smid 6-8 1-6 7-5 11-9 17-15, in 5 hours 29 minutes in Frankfurt. The win put Germany 2-0 ahead in their semi-final against Czechoslovakia, and made him a national hero. The match was interrupted twice when the very poorly laid carpet ripped as Westphal lunged for the ball (thankfully he didn't injure himself), and had to be fixed, and the 85 game contest lasted until after mid-night. He battled away pretty bravely in the final in his matches against Wilander and Edberg as well.

Westphal had very loose, free swinging groundstrokes, and his hair was pretty cool and made him look like a young popstar. He wasn't able to win a singles title, losing in 2 finals in 1984-1985. Unfortunately he died of AIDS in 1991 aged just 26. His girlfriend, an actress, later married and then divorced Stich, who was from the same town as him.
Wow that's fascinating, I had no idea.
 

cigrmaster

Semi-Pro
One of my favorite all time players was Ille Nastase. He was a mad genius on the court and one of the fastest if not fastest in his era. I saw him play at the Longwood Cricket club and was amazed at what he could do.
 

Capulin Zurdo

Hall of Fame
Krajicek is one of my very favorite. He's one of very few people who can handle Sampras in Sampras's prime. When his serve is on, he's unbreakable. I do enjoy most of their matches too, he outaced Pete a lot
He had a monumental game from what I've seen; exceptional matches from him when he faced Sampras and I feel good for him having won Wimbledon in '96.
 

Capulin Zurdo

Hall of Fame
Another player that I haven't heard much talk about is Joachim Johansson (Sweden). His game is enjoyable to me and he had awesome power on his strokes. My favorite match of his is the 2004 US Open quarterfinal against Roddick. They were blasting away groundstrokes, serves, aces. I felt a tad bummed out Roddick lost the close match and didn't get to defend the title, but also felt happy that Johansson made the semi's. Though, his career was plagued by injuries and if not for that, I believe he could have achieved more.
 
Daniel Vacek. Good in singles and dubs.

Brett steven of nzL. Stylish game. Great guy.

Chris lewis, also a kiwi. Wimbledon finalist. Lost badly to mac.

Fernndo gonzalez. Kidding. People still talk about that guy's forehand.
 

DerekNoleFam1

Hall of Fame
Yeah man, petr korda was sickly looking. What a backhand. Flowing game. Streaky.

Well, he won a slam. He is kind of a big deal.

Maybe because he was charged as a drug cheat, people are forgetting about him?
That was later in his career, so the record still stands he was and is an AO champion.
There were quite a few surprise winners, and even more so Finalists, in Melbourne over the years.
 

magnut

Hall of Fame
Daniel Vacek. Good in singles and dubs.

Brett steven of nzL. Stylish game. Great guy.

Chris lewis, also a kiwi. Wimbledon finalist. Lost badly to mac.

Fernndo gonzalez. Kidding. People still talk about that guy's forehand.
I followed Brett Steven a bit. He was a pretty underrated player and exceptionally fit. One of the best volleyers on tour. nice guy. I wonder what he is up to these days. He would make a great coach on the tour. Probably busy with his kids though.

Vacek was a trip. quite the physical specimen for a tennis player. Straight up czeck style all the way. Very flat, penetrating, powerful and lots of weapons. he never seemed to get his head consistent for singles though.



anyone remember arnaud boetsch? my spelling is probably off. he was a very talented french player. his stroke production was very modern. lots of wrist lagging and flicking off both wings. Pretty fun guy to watch.
 
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I followed Brett Steven a bit. He was a pretty underrated player and exceptionally fit. One of the best volleyers on tour. nice guy. I wonder what he is up to these days. He would make a great coach on the tour. Probably busy with his kids though.

Vacek was a trip. quite the physical specimen for a tennis player. Straight up czeck style all the way. Very flat, penetrating, powerful and lots of weapons. he never seemed to get his head consistent for singles though.



anyone remember arnaud boetsch? my spelling is probably off. he was a very talented french player. his stroke production was very modern. lots of wrist lagging and flicking off both wings. Pretty fun guy to watch.
Yes, yes and yes.

Boetsch was awesome. What a backhand on that guy. Whippy FH, too. Avg height, but a big hitter. Typically stylish frenchman blessed with great eyes and hands. Used to get wrecked by the truly tough players like sampras, iirc. Oh, and i also remember him as one of the last to wear the terrible shortshorts...well into the nineties!

Ok, more forzhotten frenchmen for y'all to remember. Olivier delaitre. Thierry champion. Thierry tulasne (less stylish than the typical frenchies, but lots of promise coming out of jrs). Roldophe gilbert.
 

magnut

Hall of Fame
How about Tommy Ho. Tommy was asian american and came up around the same time as Chang. he was picked to have the bigger career.....lots of endorcements etc. etc. Things just never seamed to materialize. No idea what hes doing now. he was a good player though. Complete all court game. Bigger than chang. Good volleyer...better serve. I followed him for a while.

heres a forgotten one.... Lawson Duncan. Monster, Monster forehand on him. American who was actually kind of a clay court specialist. He was a practice partner of Lendl. Last I heard he was coaching Odesnik off and on.
 
Tommy ho had the early fila deal. Back problems did him in. He works in finance now. I think in houston, texas.

Lawson duncan, yeah.
Reminds me of dan goldie, rich matuzsewski and paul chamberlain. And tim pawsat.

Hey, remember tim Mayotte? Henman before henman. Good on grass. Gentleman tim.

Anyone remember wes moodie? Southa frocan kid who played for boise state. Won wimbledon dubs with stephen huss (of aus).

Ok, here is a pro name from my jr days: carlos goffi. Brazilian guy. Nice player who became a noted coach at port washington and on the circuit.

Speaking of brazilians....carlos kirmayr and cassio motta.

Ok, good night friends. More tomorrow, i'm sure.

Edit:
What the heck...a few more off the top of my head.

eric fromm. Ben testerman. Juan aguilera. Tamer el sawy. Andrei cherkasov. Daniele musa (moses)...the guys name was daniel moses. Biblical names squared for three hundred, please?

Antonio zugarelli!
Jose higueras.
Lou gloria.
Peter lundgren!

Good night.
 
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ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
Ok, more forzhotten frenchmen for y'all to remember. Olivier delaitre. Thierry champion. Thierry tulasne (less stylish than the typical frenchies, but lots of promise coming out of jrs). Roldophe gilbert.
Just adding to the French: Guillaume Raoux (my avatar), Lionel Roux, Jérome Golmard and, of course, Nicolas Escudé.
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
Ok, more forzhotten frenchmen for y'all to remember. Olivier delaitre. Thierry champion. Thierry tulasne (less stylish than the typical frenchies, but lots of promise coming out of jrs). Roldophe gilbert.
Just adding to the French: Guillaume Raoux (my avatar), Lionel Roux, Jérôme Golmard and, of course, Nicolas Escudé.
 

DerekNoleFam1

Hall of Fame
Mikael Pernfors, somebody did mention his name.
Infamously involved in the match against McEnroe at the AO in 1990, where Mac was disqualified, but also an RG runner up and most here remember his epic battles against Oz (esp Pat Cash) for the Davis Cup.
Anders Jarryd another Swede, did become a specialist doubles player but was also a great DC player and Wimby semi-finalist.
 
This thread is getting better and better. The recently mentioned frenchies, rosset and pernfors....awesome.

I also enjoyed the forehand of magnus larsson. Weird serve. Intense baseliner who came forward to finish.

Beautiful touch for a big man, as mac would say.
 

jaggy

Talk Tennis Guru
Anyone remember Angel Giminez who was small and came in on drive volley approaches a lot.
 
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