Playing indoors vs Outdoors

tlm

G.O.A.T.
Went indoors last night for the first time since early spring. It is amazing how much easier it is indoors compared to outdoors, to me it is like night and day. So much easier to swing away aggressively and keep the ball in.

Much easier serving also you can hit harder serves and hit at a higher % at the same time. My 2 hand backhand which is a work in progress is much better indoors, I was even able to rip it down the line pretty well which does not happen often. I do not get as much jump with my topspin shots indoors compared to outside especially when the sun is on the court, so that is the one downfall.

I still prefer playing outdoors because I like being out in the fresh air and to me tennis is meant for being outside. But if you live in a cold climate you have to go indoors if you want to play in the winter.
 

BlueB

Legend
I love playing indoors. However, my club has lights that quite irritate/ deceive my eyes.

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tlm

G.O.A.T.
I love playing indoors. However, my club has lights that quite irritate/ deceive my eyes.

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I have noticed there is a difference in lighting at different clubs. But most I play at are fine and my home club the lights are good. It takes me a few times to get used to indoor lighting because it is a little darker than outside.
 

rkelley

Hall of Fame
I haven't played indoors in I-can't-remember-when. I guess it's what you're used to. As long as it's not windy I like outdoors. Not as loud either.
 

Raul_SJ

Legend
I've played both don't notice much difference on the serve power indoors compared to an outdoor non-breezy day.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
We started indoors two weeks ago. The summer was warmer and longer than usual and it was nice to be outdoors but it is absolutely easier to play indoors. You don't have to fight sun, wind, insects and usually a higher degree of stuff on outdoor public courts compared to indoor courts at a club where the courts are cleaned everyday.

Playing outside is good for getting a good workout and thinking about additional variables. Playing indoors is better for grooving strokes and working on your execution with fewer distractions. Indoor play also gives you sound-effects if your racquets are of the type that make a lot of noise. The outdoor courts that we use tend to be more quiet - there's usually nobody else on the courts. There are usually more people on the indoor courts or running on the track or playing basketball.

The outdoor courts are free too. Our indoor courts have been free so far (we just walk on if they're not in use) but that will likely change as it gets colder.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
I haven't played indoors in I-can't-remember-when. I guess it's what you're used to. As long as it's not windy I like outdoors. Not as loud either.
You are lucky to live in such a nice climate that you don't have to play indoors.
 

Booger

Hall of Fame
Raining today. Switching to indoors until May, FML :(. brb moving to the south where houses are $12 and you can play outdoors most of the year.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
Yes I am. I try to remember that.
I much prefer playing outdoors, love the fresh air and natural conditions. Plus much better for my game outside, indoors is better for the player that likes to attack more and come to the net. A big serve and good net game is very effective indoors.

I have played some guys that have serves that are tough to handle inside but go outside and their serve is much more manageable. It's also harder to lob indoors and overheads are much easier.
 
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Deleted member 120290

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I wish there were at least a few indoor courts in LA but there are none that I know of. I would like to play indoors during the 2 days of the year that it rains or it gets unbearably cold, below 65 degrees.
 

rkelley

Hall of Fame
OK TenFanLA, you're just being mean now. And it's not even accurate. It probably rains 10 days a year. And if you play at night it could get down to 60.
 

rkelley

Hall of Fame
I used to live in SW Washington state where if you wanted to play seriously you would need to belong to a club with indoor courts. It rains/mists/etc about 10 months a year. OTOH, the cost of living was way cheaper than San Diego. I pay for my sunshine.
 
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I used to live in SW Washington state where if you wanted to play seriously you would need to belong to a club with indoor courts. It rains/mists/etc about 10 months a year. OTOH, the cost of living was way cheaper than San Diego. I pay for my sunshine.
Me too. It's worse in LA and even worse than that in SF.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
I love playing indoors. However, my club has lights that quite irritate/ deceive my eyes.

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I run into this same problem.

Can't ever hit too many overheads because the floodlights shine directly into my eyes.

Same thing receiving serve sometimes. The ball at the server's contact point is right in front of the floodlights from the next court over so I developed a bad habit of not looking at the ball as well as I should.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
I run into this same problem.

Can't ever hit too many overheads because the floodlights shine directly into my eyes.

Same thing receiving serve sometimes. The ball at the server's contact point is right in front of the floodlights from the next court over so I developed a bad habit of not looking at the ball as well as I should.
That is a bad light set up, I've played in a lot of indoor clubs and never experienced anything like that. Most you can't see directly into the lights because they are pointed up to the ceiling. Some are a little dark which takes a little time to get used to but that is it. Once you get used to the lighting it is about as good as it gets, the courts have dark background so the depth perception is very good. A well lighted indoor facility makes tennis much easier than outdoors.
 

BlueB

Legend
I don't know, ours point up and you still kinda see the glare when looking directly at them.
The light doesn't bounce back evenly and there are always slightly darker spots at the court.
Also, there's something really strange about the light, almost as if it had super fast strobo frequency that you notice only with fast moving objects (ball)... Other then that, I love indoors.

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movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
We have fluorescent lights and some people have problems with them. I noticed that Costco has LED tube replacements now and maybe a lot of lighting is going to get better.
 

esgee48

Legend
Indoor tennis is the best, no real hazards to get in the way.
Ha! You forgot about the side netting.
Up here, the inside lighting is horrible and the atmosphere smells of mildew. I haven't played indoors in decades and will not play indoors, mainly because I can't see the ball (HORRIBLE lights reflect off the ceiling). When it rains, there's the library, bridge games, restaurants to try out. :p
 

JoelSandwich

Hall of Fame
Ha! You forgot about the side netting.
Up here, the inside lighting is horrible and the atmosphere smells of mildew. I haven't played indoors in decades and will not play indoors, mainly because I can't see the ball (HORRIBLE lights reflect off the ceiling). When it rains, there's the library, bridge games, restaurants to try out. :p
Most of the courts that I've ever played indoors at are in great shape all around, but fair enough.
 
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depends on the indoor courts i think.

Some are immaculately maintained. good lighting. excellent background for contrast. excellent climate control (eg. air conditioned in the summer, heated in the winter).

others are terrible: poor lighting, lighting in places that interfere with my line of sight, poor backgrounds (eg. white ceilings), low ceilings, poor climate control (humid especially indoor clay courts because they are watered regularly), etc...
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
depends on the indoor courts i think.

Some are immaculately maintained. good lighting. excellent background for contrast. excellent climate control (eg. air conditioned in the summer, heated in the winter).

others are terrible: poor lighting, lighting in places that interfere with my line of sight, poor backgrounds (eg. white ceilings), low ceilings, poor climate control (humid especially indoor clay courts because they are watered regularly), etc...
My usual indoor courts don't have a lot of room on the side except for one court which has a lot of room on just one side of the court. So you can serve your opponent into the netting separating the courts so-to-speak. I've never run into this problem on outdoor courts.
 
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My usual indoor courts don't have a lot of room on the side except for one court which has a lot of room on just one side of the court. So you can serve your opponent into the netting separating the courts so-to-speak. I've never run into this problem on outdoor courts.
on big points, my goto serves are to slice out wide on the deuce side, and kick serve on the ad side.
when done well (with surprise), even if they see it coming, it will hit the net before they have a chance to return :p
if i do it too soon, they'll know to move the net
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
My club charges $12/hour and just the income tax alone in California would be vastly more in court time than I could conceivably play. Then add in cost of housing, insurance, sales taxes, commuting headaches and court costs are a tiny fraction of the expenses of living in CA.
 
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My club charges $12/hour and just the income tax alone in California would be vastly more in court time than I could conceivably play. Then add in cost of housing, insurance, sales taxes, commuting headaches and court costs are a tiny fraction of the expenses of living in CA.
$12/hr court time is definitely something i miss about living in New Hampshire!!
It's 4x in the suburbs of NYC, 10x in NYC.

While it is expensive in CA, compensation is considerably more than NH, (even if you are making a Boston salary).
 
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Frost warning for tonight so I guess it's officially indoor season in New Hampshire.
I used to play down to 40 degress (F), but i my old age... 50 is my limit :p
so yeah, indoor season for me too..
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
$12/hr court time is definitely something i miss about living in New Hampshire!!
It's 4x in the suburbs of NYC, 10x in NYC.

While it is expensive in CA, compensation is considerably more than NH, (even if you are making a Boston salary).
It depends on your work arrangement. I work for a CA company so the salary scales are based on salaries there.

There's considerable telecommuting today for some industries. My son's employer is in Boston and he lived there for several years but he telecommutes from a lower-cost location now.

The son of a friend lives in Sydney and works for a Singaporean company. His cowokers are scattered around the globe.
 
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Frost warning for tonight so I guess it's officially indoor season in New Hampshire.
I got hamstring cramps for playing 5 hours in a doubles tournament in 94 degree heat this past weekend...it was brutal.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
Autumn and 'winter' where I live is perfect. 10-20C with low humidity and rain. Play for hours without sweating or getting tired.

Indoors is a necessity for places with four actual seasons, but I would prefer to play outdoors whenever I can because sunlight >>>> floodlights, and wind forces me to focus on my footwork more--and I need every prompt I can get to improve my footwork.

That said, I do wish there were indoor courts during the spring and summer because it's always freaking raining here during those seasons...if not that, then its 36C and 95% humidity in scorching sunlight.
 
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100+ per hour in NYC? really?
$100-120/hr is probably avg peak for nyc (might need to travel a bit)
closer to $80 for peak westchest rates...
i've played in nyc above grand central, and it's $200-280/hr: http://www.vanderbilttennisclub.com/pages/index.cfm?siteid=16509 (played dubs, so it was split :p)

playing off peak, and buying in bulk, willing to travel (ie. NJ, Randall's Island, Queens, etc...), can reduce NYC rates down to $60-80/hr
playing off peak, and buying in bulk, can reduce Westchester rates down to $40/hr
 

movdqa

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$100-120/hr is probably avg peak for nyc (might need to travel a bit)
closer to $80 for peak westchest rates...
i've played in nyc above grand central, and it's $200-280/hr: http://www.vanderbilttennisclub.com/pages/index.cfm?siteid=16509 (played dubs, so it was split :p)

playing off peak, and buying in bulk, willing to travel (ie. NJ, Randall's Island, Queens, etc...), can reduce NYC rates down to $60-80/hr
playing off peak, and buying in bulk, can reduce Westchester rates down to $40/hr
This makes the cost of tennis racquets a moot point.
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
Went indoors last night for the first time since early spring. It is amazing how much easier it is indoors compared to outdoors, to me it is like night and day. So much easier to swing away aggressively and keep the ball in.

Much easier serving also you can hit harder serves and hit at a higher % at the same time. My 2 hand backhand which is a work in progress is much better indoors, I was even able to rip it down the line pretty well which does not happen often. I do not get as much jump with my topspin shots indoors compared to outside especially when the sun is on the court, so that is the one downfall.

I still prefer playing outdoors because I like being out in the fresh air and to me tennis is meant for being outside. But if you live in a cold climate you have to go indoors if you want to play in the winter.
So much harder to serve outdoors
So if your like me then outdoors will level out the serve difference more
 

Fintft

Legend
I love playing indoors. However, my club has lights that quite irritate/ deceive my eyes.

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That and the fact that the indoor courts are hard courts (as opposed to the clay for the outdoors ones) made me injury my self at the end of the indoor season (when getting out of winter) 3 times out of the last 4 years.

So while I agree that my power game is better suited for hard courts (indoor) and that I can also change directions easier on hard courts, rather then on clay (due to my Tsonga weight), I'd rather play outdoors, on clay and get a sun, plus feel the breeze...
 

Dan R

Semi-Pro
It is easier indoors, no wind, no sun, perfect surface. I'd prefer to play outdoors. I always feel like the court is bigger outdoors than indoors, just seems like there's more room outdoors. Not sure why.
 
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