Playtest: RF97 vs PS97 vs PS97 LS

I can't help you with that. The PS 97 offers quite a bit of power and pop but due to the specific string setup I find it hard to state if is more powerful than the Pure Storm Tour which additionally I didn't really care for.

I'd say it has more power than the Ox10 325g.

I doubt the PS 97 is as powerful as the Pure Storm Tour given the difference in static weight perhaps a comparison to the RF 97 instead. I used to hit with the Pure Storm Tour and think it's one of the most stable and powerful racquet out there with the downside being sluggish on serves.

Automatrix - The Graphene Speed Mp was a very nice racquet but I opted for the Graphene Speed Pro because it lacked heft and was not as stable against heavy top spin hitters. Is the PS 97 better in this regard and can you compare the RF 97 against the Speed Pro?
 
Automatrix - The Graphene Speed Mp was a very nice racquet but I opted for the Graphene Speed Pro because it lacked heft and was not as stable against heavy top spin hitters. Is the PS 97 better in this regard and can you compare the RF 97 against the Speed Pro?
I don't like closed patterns, so I did not try the Speed Pro. Though I can easily say that if you're after a frame with a hefty feel the RF97 is for you.
 
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For me the power level would be similar to a PSC 6.1 95, just in a more control/manageable manner. Definitely more power than a PS 6.1 95.
Wait, aren't those two the same racquet? Or did you mean more power than the PS 6.0 95 or current PS 95 or current Six-One 95? I know it's confusing.
 
I doubt the PS 97 is as powerful as the Pure Storm Tour given the difference in static weight perhaps a comparison to the RF 97 instead. I used to hit with the Pure Storm Tour and think it's one of the most stable and powerful racquet out there with the downside being sluggish on serves.

Automatrix - The Graphene Speed Mp was a very nice racquet but I opted for the Graphene Speed Pro because it lacked heft and was not as stable against heavy top spin hitters. Is the PS 97 better in this regard and can you compare the RF 97 against the Speed Pro?

I have to agree with the storm tour being stable. However, I wouldnt call it powerful on its own. I had to swap out grips to get it to swing a bit more freely (changed to leather).

But, I wholeheartedly agree with the sluggish on serves. I don't wanna blame the racket because I'm not that great of a player, but it is more difficult than other rackets (even a wooden one haha).
 
This review was possible thanks to Tennis Warehouse Europe and Wilson.

This is a review of the upcoming Wilson Pro Staff 97

Setup: Luxilon 4G 1.41mm @ 24kG (1 piece)

Specs:
Headsize: 97 sq.in. / 625.81 sq. cm*
Length: 685mm**
Weight: ±315g (11.1oz)* / ±330g (11.64oz)**
Balance: ± 310mm (10HL)* / ±321mm (6.8HL)**
Beam: 21.5mm*
String pattern: 16x19
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* Unstrung manufacturer advertised specs.
** Strung specs of the owned model.


Graphics, looks and overall impression...
I'll be honest. When Wilson was realising the teaser pictures showing some parts of the RF97 Autograph which shares the paintjob with the Pro Staff 97 I was really pleased with the looks of this new frame up until they showed the mostly red head. I was disappointed, while the paintjob wasn't in my opinion ugly I was hoping for a more stealth look - more black, less red so to speak.

Luckily photos don't make justice to this paintjob. In person the 97 looks very good, the graphics are sleek and elegant. The red is a true red colour and not some strange lighter shaded one which could be mistaken for pink or whatever. To sum up the paintjob is nice and by no means busy. Congrats to our very own PeterFig. Kudos, my friend!

Feel, comfort & stability...
The frame offers crisp and direct feel which you could probably define as specific for certain Wilson frames - most certainly correlated with graphite braided kevlar. You get a pretty good sense of what's going on with the ball on the stringbed. However while you feel the heritage of the old box beam Pro Staffs it is by no means a PS 6.0 85 or PS 90 with a bigger headsize. If you want that distinctive thin box beam feel but with a bigger headsize buy a Pro Staff 95 and bring it up to your specs with lead. This model still beats almost any racquet in the Wilson line up (6.1 95, Blades etc.) in the feel department and while it's not exactly what the diehard purists would want it still preserves a lot of "old school" in its fibres while achieving certain characteristics which makes it more tuned for the needs of the modern game, more on which later on.

While crisp the frame remains comfortable. The racquet equipped with a dampener is literally vibration free (naturally the handle is foam filled). Of course if you hit near the frame you feel it, you get a somewhat blunt sensation but still, not one annoying vibe.
I don't have elbow problems but was a bit scared what a 1.41mm poly could do to my arm, a really pleasant surprise, I must say.

What is also worth mentioning is a very generous sweetspot and beyond average stability in its weight class which could actually go on par with many heavier frames.


Power, spin & control...
Every trait has a trade-off, well for this model the trade-offs are minimised as much as it gets. You get quite a lot of "controllable" power without sacrificing much of the control. You can't have the best of both worlds but this model does a fantastic job at balancing these aspects. It is not as "scalpel" precise as the Pro Staff 90/95 models but it sure isn't a "ball sprayer" either. If you've got solid strokes you won't have a slightest problem to place the ball exactly where you want. What you get in return is good access to power which really shines when your on the attack and doesn't make you as helpless when you're on the defence allowing you to return a deep ball even when pushed far from the baseline.

Still the player is rewarded the most for staying aggressive from either the baseline or inside the court. Serve and volley acolytes need not worry, half or put away volleys after that first smashing serve aren't a problem.

Spin access was good however I think that the uber gauge of the used string hampered this aspect the most and while producing satisfying topspin was doable thanks to the possibility of achieving good racquet head speed, I found these strokes to be the most erratic, especially on the backhand side. Funny enough low sitting slices from both wings weren't a problem. Still I think this frame is above average in the spin department.


Overall playability...
In the immortal words of Jason Huang "I really enjoyed this playtest".
I think Wilson did a great job balancing out the characteristics of this model adjusting it to fit the needs of the modern player while maintaining as much of that classic old school feel as possible. They basically created a frame without any significant weaknesses and some good highlights like the already mentioned generous sweetspot. Solid on returns as well as volleys, precise from all areas of the court, gives those extra mph when needed. The racquet plays great stock still leaving some place to customise to your preferred specs.

Believe it or not but in my opinion this is one of the best frames Wilson released in years. I predict a bestseller.
 
Great review. I am leaning towards getting one to have along with the leaded pro staff 95s Im using.

Sounds like it has a little more weight on it than the PS95 as well.
 
Automatix I know you posted the length of the pro staff 97 somewhere earlier but is it a true 27 inch ie 685.8mm thus when I'm calculating balance I use the figure of 342.9mm
 
This review was possible thanks to Tennis Warehouse Europe and Wilson.

This is a review of the upcoming Wilson RF97 Autograph

Setup: Luxilon 4G 1.41mm @ 24kG (1 piece)

Specs:
Headsize: 97 sq.in. / 625.81 sq. cm*
Length: 685mm**
Weight: ±340g (12.0)* / ±361g (12.73oz)**
Balance: ± 305mm (12HL)* / ±313mm (9.3HL)**
Beam: 21.5mm*
String pattern: 16x19
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* Unstrung manufacturer advertised specs.
** Strung specs of the owned model.

Side note: Due to the fact that the RF97 Autograph is the same mold, composition and paintjob as the PS97 some fragments of the reviews are identical.


Graphics, looks and overall impression...
I'll be honest. When Wilson was realising the teaser pictures showing some parts of the RF97 Autograph I was really pleased with the looks of this new frame up until they showed the mostly red head. I was disappointed, while the paintjob wasn't in my opinion ugly I was hoping for a more stealth look - more black, less red so to speak.

Luckily photos don't make justice to this paintjob. In person the 97 looks very good, the graphics are sleek and elegant. The red is a true red colour and not some strange lighter shaded one which could be mistaken for pink or whatever. To sum up the paintjob is nice and by no means busy. Congrats to our very own PeterFig. Kudos, my friend!

Feel, comfort & stability...
Just as the PS97 the frame offers crisp and direct wilsonish feel associated with the graphite braided kevlar layup. You get a pretty good sense of what's going on with the ball on the stringbed however do to the sheer weight behind the shot it is somewhat harder to fully control the racquet head. You most certainly feel the heritage of the old box beam Pro Staffs but the RF97 is by no means a PS 6.0 85 or PS 90 with a bigger headsize. The heft and weight distribution makes this stick much closer to the [K]PS88 than anything else. If you're looking for a bigger headsize version of a Pro Staff 85 or 90 look somewhere else. The biggest noticeable difference you may encounter is manoeuvrability. You really feel the weight of this racquet making it harder to whip than any released 90.

In terms of vibration and shock absorption the frame is very comfortable.
It also provides what advertised, a forgiving and big sweetspot.

As the specs suggest the racquet is absolutely rock solid. If the International Bureau of Weights and Measures in Sevres was to have a standard for stability the RF97 would be it. Blocked returns or volleys are a pinch if you can get the racquet head where it should be. The racquet won't be pushed back by a millimetre. More so the noticeable mass behind your shots results in unbelievable plowthrough crushing the ball like it was a ping pong ball.

This frame is simply all about stability.


Power, spin & control...
If you have the muscle to swing it you'll be rewarded with lots of power.
The head heaviness makes it easier to drive through the ball than trying to brush it applying topspin. You have to work hard to achieve satisfying RPM on topspin strokes and while not impossible as the game goes on it gets harder by the minute resulting in multiplying frame clipping.

The Autograph really punishes hesitation and passiveness. Its definitely not for the baseline grinder endlessly trading shots waiting for the opponent to commit an unforced error. If you have the game to dominate the opponent you might benefit from its attributes.

It is essential to have fluid and stable strokes to squeeze all this frame has to offer. If you keep on muscling the ball not only your shots won't make any damage to your opponent due to lack of pace but you'll also get tired out before the first set is over. While this is mind the racquet grows on you and the longer you play with it you get a better sense of how it "behaves" and how to fully exploit its inherited mass.


Overall playability...
This is what you call a pro spec racquet, heck its every graphite fibre simply screams pro. You need to be a fit and accomplished player to really make the Autograph sing. It might be a fun racquet for the average joe for an hour of hitting due to it's great stability, access to power and great solid feel but in the long run it can be really tolling on your body and while the shock absorbing character will protect your elbow from vibrations the same can't be said for your muscles and wrist. Depending on your technique and amount of wrist action on your strokes the amount of strain resulting from the heft of the racquet head may overwhelming.

All in all as an every day racquet its only for the selected few who's game is really top notch. As an occasional fun hit it can bring joy to many who will take it out of their bag once in a while.
 
why would they send the racquets with Luxilon 4G in super thick gauges?!?!? That string is SUPER STIFF and would make it hard to give a good playtest. Something like this, they should have done a hybrid or asked what string.
 
Great reviews Automatix! In your opinion what are the differences between the RF97 and PS97? Is it basically static weight, balance and swing weight? Does the racquet stiffness between the two frames feel similar? Thanks in advance.
 
why would they send the racquets with Luxilon 4G in super thick gauges?!?!? That string is SUPER STIFF and would make it hard to give a good playtest. Something like this, they should have done a hybrid or asked what string.

There could be many reasons... the most obvious one is that to prevent playtesters from snapping the strings during play.

While the same string strung at the same tension in all 3 racquets make the comparison in theory easier, the gauge favours the 97LS.

The gauge is one of the reasons I was so impressed with the comfort and sweetspot size of these racquets.
 
Great reviews Automatix! In your opinion what are the differences between the RF97 and PS97? Is it basically static weight, balance and swing weight? Does the racquet stiffness between the two frames feel similar? Thanks in advance.
I found both feel and stiffness to be similar.
The difference is the extra weight and its distribution. The PS97 isn't simply a lighter RF97 because the Autograph has definitely more weight in the head.
 
Believe it or not but in my opinion this is one of the best frames Wilson released in years. I predict a bestseller.

Thanks Automatix for a great PS97 review. Very measured and well written. I believe you wouldn't make the above prediction lightly either.

This frame can only play much better with something other than 1.41 mm Luxilon 4G, I'd imagine.
 
Ok so im back, i played with the rf 97 315g racket today.

First some info.

Two handed backhand
I play mostly from the baseline
Strings Wilson sensation 1.30
Tension a think around 55ibs a little bit to hard for me I use to play with
50ibs.

This racket feels stable as a rock but same time very
Smooth.

Volley is really nice, stable And nice to your arm and it feels like
You can put the ball where you want.

Backhand and forehand are very nice and you have good grip of the ball
Crisp, and topspin feels good

I also tried a few serves and that felt good to, I think you can get a lot of power from this racket.

The racket doesn't feel heavy at all with this setup, I use one over grip but that was to small I think, I will try more later this week,

For now I'm very pleased with this racket!

Amazing feeling
 
Thanks Automatix for a great PS97 review. Very measured and well written. I believe you wouldn't make the above prediction lightly either.
As far as I remember this is the first time I wrote something like that... it is simply a very good offering, the best in Wilsons recent years.

This frame can only play much better with something other than 1.41 mm Luxilon 4G, I'd imagine.
That is my assumption as well. The only reason I won't switch is the standard length.

I'd switch if there was a 27.5 inch version of the PS97 with similar or slightly lighter specs. Sadly, no chance for this to happen. People who use extended frames need to use custom services or hunt for pro stocks which is sad because looking at the pros frames floating on auction sites and the all known forum there are quite a few who use such.

If you look at the current offerings except for Babolat there are literally no extended players frames. Additionally the extended Wilson 6.1 models released in the past were very heavy and unwieldy thus making them unattractive to many. I think the [K]Factor had a swingweight of around 360.
The tricky thing with extended racquets is that its better to make them a bit lighter so the swingweight doesn't end up as high.

But this is turning into a rant... sorry.
 
Is the PS 97 available anywhere tomorrow 9/15?

I just received my 3 Pro Staff 97 rackets from Tennis Warehouse Europe. After work i am going to string the rackets with Luxilon Savage white and tomorrow i am going to play with them.
 
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Both (haha) and with regards to the auction site, I don't see any regular PS's available. Otherwise I would have definitely been all over it!
 
Did you preorder it?/Would you be willing to sell one (Sorry for hijacking the thread)

I ordered 3 for myself and can't miss one. If you order the rackets today on Tennis Warehouse Europe you will have them in 2 days.
 
^ Thanks for the info. Bummed out again to see that the 3/8 grip size isn't in stock just yet. Happy to see that it has a sooner in stock date than the US TW though.
 
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How does it compare to Blade 98 16x19

Hi Automatrix,

Just wondering if you had experience with Blade 98 16x19 and if so how does PS97 compare in terms of manoeuvrability, power, etct?

Thanks

Let me elaborate about the PS97.

It is not a soft frame, so if you expect a nBlade or RQiS Tour-1 softness level you will be disappointed. While the RDC flex rating may be misleading at times there is no way in hell you will get the feel of a sub 60RA racquet when the measured stiffness is in the upper 60s.

HOWEVER IMHO the PS97, as well as RF97, is a pretty comfortable frame with a crisp and very direct response with a very generous sweetspot. It feels softer than a Graphene Speed MP for example. I'd say it is very finely balanced when it comes to feel, comfort, shock absorption and control.
 
Hi Automatrix,

Just wondering if you had experience with Blade 98 16x19 and if so how does PS97 compare in terms of manoeuvrability, power, etct?

Thanks

I've played with Blade 98 16x19 with leather grips added for about 6 months now. I've previously played with SixOne.95, Head Graphene Speed Pro and IG Prestige Pro.

I recently spent one hour with a PS 97 (315g) in stock form. That particular racquet had a SW of 330, weighed 337g strung with 1.30 Wilson Ripsping, an over grip and a damper.

My Blades have SW of 324 - 327 and still I found the PS 97 easier to maneuver, had better control and a more solid feel. I could instantly adjust to that frame.

I have also hit with an RF97 for about an hour which I found surprisingly maneuverable given the stats. I had no opportunity to measure that racquet however.

I will probably by the RF version to begin with depending on what I can get hold of in terms of weight/SW on PS 97 frames.
 
Hi Automatrix,

Just wondering if you had experience with Blade 98 16x19 and if so how does PS97 compare in terms of manoeuvrability, power, etct?

Thanks
I found the PS97 to be superior in most categories.
The Blade swung heavier and felt more "cluby". The 97 had similar power but better control, feel, stable and was easier to maneuver.
 
I've played with Blade 98 16x19 with leather grips added for about 6 months now. I've previously played with SixOne.95, Head Graphene Speed Pro and IG Prestige Pro.

I recently spent one hour with a PS 97 (315g) in stock form. That particular racquet had a SW of 330, weighed 337g strung with 1.30 Wilson Ripsping, an over grip and a damper.

My Blades have SW of 324 - 327 and still I found the PS 97 easier to maneuver, had better control and a more solid feel. I could instantly adjust to that frame.

I have also hit with an RF97 for about an hour which I found surprisingly maneuverable given the stats. I had no opportunity to measure that racquet however.

I will probably by the RF version to begin with depending on what I can get hold of in terms of weight/SW on PS 97 frames.

Very interesting. My tailweighted 18*20 blx blades have a swingweight around 335. So with some lead, the PS97 should be in the ballpark of specs I like. Looking forward.
 
Hi mementi what grip size are your racquets . any chance you could measure round your handle in mm so we can assess consistency of grip sizes pls
 
Wait, you mean your racquets originally came pre-strung? Why didn't you just ask TWE to string it with your string of choice to begin with?

I selected no string but they came pre-strung with Wilson Sensation. I have my own strings and machine so i don't pay for stringing my rackets.
 
I selected no string but they came pre-strung with Wilson Sensation. I have my own strings and machine so i don't pay for stringing my rackets.
Interesting that they came pre-strung from the factory. I wonder if that's just a Europe thing. I doubt they come pre-strung in the U.S.
 
I've played with Blade 98 16x19 with leather grips added for about 6 months now. I've previously played with SixOne.95, Head Graphene Speed Pro and IG Prestige Pro.

I recently spent one hour with a PS 97 (315g) in stock form. That particular racquet had a SW of 330, weighed 337g strung with 1.30 Wilson Ripsping, an over grip and a damper.

I have also hit with an RF97 for about an hour which I found surprisingly maneuverable given the stats. I had no opportunity to measure that racquet however.

I will probably by the RF version to begin with depending on what I can get hold of in terms of weight/SW on PS 97 frames.

Can you compare the Graphene Speed Pro to the PS 97 and RF 97?
 
I found both feel and stiffness to be similar.
The difference is the extra weight and its distribution. The PS97 isn't simply a lighter RF97 because the Autograph has definitely more weight in the head.

You say that the RF97 has more weight in the head, but the specs suggests that the RF97 is more headlight than the PS97. Am I missing something here?
 
You say that the RF97 has more weight in the head, but the specs suggests that the RF97 is more headlight than the PS97. Am I missing something here?

The point is: the balance is the most meaningless parameter of a racquet.che RF97 feel is "head heavy" because of the huge swingweight it has.even if more HL,the high sw will give you an "heavy" feel while swinging.
The ps97 has less sw so even if less HL you will perceive less inertia while swinging it.
 
Love your reviews Automatix for the RF97 and PS97.

I'm currently playing with the VCore 95D. While being fantastic on serve on the one hand backhand, I struggle a little bit on the forehand (with most Yonex frames I have that problem as well especially on the DTL shot) and it's a little stiff for my wrist. Also it's not the easiest racquet to volley with

I've also demoed the Prostaff 95 and I pretty much loved the frame except for 2 areas: On the Run shots and sometimes erratic return of serves.

Can someone tell me if the Pro Staff 97 have improved on those 2 areas?
 
from twe the swingweights i have had measured do seem to really vary on the pro staff 97. average i have been told is 315 sw and 67 flex

they have varied from 308 sw to 314. i have gone for the highest one. bit of lead tape and were good to go
 
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