PLease discuss Nadal's potential game plan against Federer.

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meg0529

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To win. :)

Plus whatever Tio Toni cooks up in his lab tonight!
 

Polaris

Hall of Fame
I wanna make a tread! :)
1. Plan A: Attack Federer's backhand.
2. Plan B: Attack Federer's backhand.
3. Plan C: Attack Federer's backhand.
4. ... and so on.

And, if you are going to crap out worthless threads just to make fun of other threads, please do us the favor of running a mental spellcheck before clicking the "submit" button.
 
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meg0529

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1. Plan A: Attack Federer's backhand.
2. Plan B: Attack Federer's backhand.
3. Plan C: Attack Federer's backhand.
4. ... and so on.

And, if you are going to crap out worthless threads just to make fun of other threads, please do us the favor of running a mental spellcheck before clicking the "submit" button.
LOL. The "tread" is actually deliberate. It's a trend started by a rather delusional Nadal fan. So good times :)
 

viduka0101

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opps forgot then when feds in the front row to his backhand hit down the line.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
i am surprised nadal is the only one who would play this way against federer :)
It's more than just playing to Federer's BH. Other players have tried that strategy (even other lefties) and nobody else makes it work. So, it's more complicated than some on this forum make it out to be.

I've noticed that Federer likes hard flat hitters as he uses their pace to re-direct the ball much of the time. He then waits for any opportunity to pounce with his FH. Unfortunately, Nadal hits a deeper ball that hangs longer in the air and then explodes with incredible spin upon hitting the court. It messes up his rhythm and timing off both wings.
 
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Mick

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It's more than just playing to Federer's BH. Other players have tried that strategy (even other lefties) and nobody else makes it work. So, it's more complicated than some on this forum make it out to be.

I've noticed that Federer likes hard flat hitters as he uses their pace to re-direct the ball much of the time. He then waits for any opportunity to pounce with his FH. Unfortunately, Nadal hits a deeper ball that hangs longer in the air and then explodes with incredible spin upon hitting the court. It messes up his rhythm and timing off both wings.
yep. also, federer's backhand is good enough to beat most of the other players on the atp, so it's pretty tough to do what rafa does and have a successful result.
 

Tennis_Monk

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Start the point by putting ball back in play.
Loop 1000 times
Hit to Federer's back hand
End loop
Fist pump and celebrate the point.
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Serendipitous

Guest
1. Plan A: Attack Federer's backhand.
2. Plan B: Attack Federer's backhand.
3. Plan C: Attack Federer's backhand.
4. ... and so on.

And, if you are going to crap out worthless threads just to make fun of other threads, please do us the favor of running a mental spellcheck before clicking the "submit" button.
Sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy......:cry::cry::cry:
 

Gaudio2004

Semi-Pro
Not just as easy as "hit to his backhand", Nadal will have to do a few things tomorrow:

-> When trying to move to the net or be aggressive, hit heavily to Federer's forehand to make him defend by moving to the right (for Federer), Federer is a brilliant defender when forced to move to the left (his BH side, where he can slice), but on his forehand side, more errors creep in.

-> Ensure that his second serve isn't too weak by constantly being brave and going for a little bit more than he usually would.

-> Hitting those hard, moonball-esque shots to Fed's backhand when in a defensive position, and then hitting down the line when in an aggressive position.

Nadal will not make the same mistake Murray did at AO 2010 and he same mistake Nadal made at AO 2009 (where effectively, Federer was the better player for 4 sets), and that's just to hit to Federer's backhand point after point. Versatility and the element of surprise is the key.
 

Tennis_Monk

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Not just as easy as "hit to his backhand", Nadal will have to do a few things tomorrow:

-> When trying to move to the net or be aggressive, hit heavily to Federer's forehand to make him defend by moving to the right (for Federer), Federer is a brilliant defender when forced to move to the left (his BH side, where he can slice), but on his forehand side, more errors creep in.

-> Ensure that his second serve isn't too weak by constantly being brave and going for a little bit more than he usually would.

-> Hitting those hard, moonball-esque shots to Fed's backhand when in a defensive position, and then hitting down the line when in an aggressive position.

Nadal will not make the same mistake Murray did at AO 2010 and he same mistake Nadal made at AO 2009 (where effectively, Federer was the better player for 4 sets), and that's just to hit to Federer's backhand point after point. Versatility and the element of surprise is the key.
Cmon. it looks like your posts seem very Logical. cant do that at TW anymore.

EPIC FAIL !!! ;)
 

dmt

Hall of Fame
nadal needs to try and use angles to federer's backhand side, drive him out of the court before hitting winners

The first set will be crucial, if nadal wins, federer will be under too much pressure and would be unlikely to win. If federer can take the first set, he has a good chance at taking the whole thing
 

Tennis_Monk

Hall of Fame
Haha I agree!

What are your thoughts on the match-up?
As far as i am concerned this match has more "between the ears" ie mental aspects than physical aspects. There isnt a shot these players cant hit and they both are extremely versatile.

Given that this is Hard court match, i believe this is Federer's match to lose.

Either result doesnt surprise me. They both have beaten each other before (despite the lopsided H2H) and whatever may be result tommorow doesnt prove a damn thing for me.
 
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meg0529

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Fed should play Rafa more, it will really improve his back hand it seems. I hope Rafa is not tired tom. AO was a once in a lifetime thing. He's been beaten miserably by fed before after grueling semis matches. dammit Murray!
 

CMM

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Fed should play Rafa more, it will really improve his back hand it seems. I hope Rafa is not tired tom. AO was a once in a lifetime thing. He's been beaten miserably by fed before after grueling semis matches. dammit Murray!
He's had 5 weeks of rest before this tournament. That should help him. Three hours is not that much.
Plus, he's younger than his opponent.
 

Messarger

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Fed should play Rafa more, it will really improve his back hand it seems. I hope Rafa is not tired tom. AO was a once in a lifetime thing. He's been beaten miserably by fed before after grueling semis matches. dammit Murray!
Nope he wont be. Let's not forget that even in the first week of majors that's about the time he needs to finish off a 5 set match. After that he went on to the second week with no problems so i think it's okay. If anything i thought the Murray match gave him a good preparation for today, especially if it goes to tie breaks again.
 

timnz

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Lendl/Sampras

Interesting that the standard Nadal play book against Federer is a high, deep, heavy topspin to the back hand. Then gets a short backhand reply from Federer then Nadal does a forehand down the line to Federer's forehand side.

Such a play wouldn't have worked with either Lendl or Sampras. Then both crowded over to the backhand side, daring opponents to go wide to their forehands. If the opponent hit it there, both of them were incredibly fast moving to their right and would hit these massively powerful running forehands. Federer moving to the right is good, but not great and that is what Nadal takes advantage of. Even though particularly Sampras didn't have as good a backhand as Federer he ran to the right much better. Lendl did have as good a backhand but he had an even better running forehand.
 
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