Please, stop whining about next generation "failure"...

beard

Legend
Endless whining from two fans groups...

Next generation is constantly in slam QFs, SFs and Fs... Last rounds are packed with next generation players...

Yes, they can't get over finishing line, but there is a reason... They play against goat who is in his arguably best, and if not his best, then near his best...

Look at Federer who can get to multiple slam finals but can't beat same goat. Same with Rafa who can't beat Novak outside the clay for 8 years, can't even get set at hard court...

And now, you expect from some younger players (younger isn't advance anymore, deal with it) to beat Novak in slam final while Fedal can't do it for eternity...

Next generation is experiencing fate od Rodicks, Hewitts, Murrays and other numerous victims of greatest players ever... They are not their lever... no one in tennis history is... But, they ARE great players, and will be even greater in time to come...

Please stop whining... Big 3 will go away in few years and things will get back to normal, till another tennis freak emerge...
 

Omega_7000

Legend
Endless whining from two fans groups...

Next generation is constantly in slam QFs, SFs and Fs... Last rounds are packed with next generation players...

Yes, they can't get over finishing line, but there is a reason... They play against goat who is in his arguably best, and if not his best, then near his best...

Look at Federer who can get to multiple slam finals but can't beat same goat. Same with Rafa who can't beat Novak outside the clay for 8 years, can't even get set at hard court...

And now, you expect from some younger players (younger isn't advance anymore, deal with it) to beat Novak in slam final while Fedal can't do it for eternity...

Next generation is experiencing fate od Rodicks, Hewitts, Murrays and other numerous victims of greatest players ever... They are not their lever... no one in tennis history is... But, they ARE great players, and will be even greater in time to come...

Please stop whining... Big 3 will go away in few years and things will get back to normal, till another tennis freak emerge...
Really?

Dimitrov, Raonic, Nishikori etc were beating everyone but the big three?

Kyrgios, Goffin, Thiem, Pouille, PCB etc. were beating all but big three?
 

beard

Legend
Lol comparing veterans vs veterans.
Leave big3/Sampras/agassi level talent aside, If NextGen were even at the talent level of young delpo or Murray, none of the big3 would've won any slam after 2015 or 2016.
Those veterans are still better than older atgs... Delpo had only one great run... First and only... Murray lost bunch of slam matches against big 3 before finally winning first slam...

It's not that simple to win against goat, in slam final... How can't you all understand that?
 

beard

Legend
Really?

Dimitrov, Raonic, Nishikori etc were beating everyone but the big three?

Kyrgios, Goffin, Thiem, Pouille, PCB etc. were beating all but big three?
Lol, even big 3 lost numerous times against non big 3... Just look at this year QFs at slams and beyond... It's loaded with younger players... They haven't won slam/s just because they played goat in finals... Rafa and Fed lost most times in that situation... And you expect them to succeed?
 

Omega_7000

Legend
Endless whining from two fans groups...

Next generation is constantly in slam QFs, SFs and Fs... Last rounds are packed with next generation players...

Yes, they can't get over finishing line, but there is a reason... They play against goat who is in his arguably best, and if not his best, then near his best...

Look at Federer who can get to multiple slam finals but can't beat same goat. Same with Rafa who can't beat Novak outside the clay for 8 years, can't even get set at hard court...

And now, you expect from some younger players (younger isn't advance anymore, deal with it) to beat Novak in slam final while Fedal can't do it for eternity...

Next generation is experiencing fate od Rodicks, Hewitts, Murrays and other numerous victims of greatest players ever... They are not their lever... no one in tennis history is... But, they ARE great players, and will be even greater in time to come...

Please stop whining... Big 3 will go away in few years and things will get back to normal, till another tennis freak emerge...
Two 6 & 5 years younger ATG's is what Fed had to deal with throughout his prime....Djokovic did not.... other than Nadal on clay and a geriatric Fed on other surfaces.
Lol, even big 3 lost numerous times against non big 3... Just look at this year QFs at slams and beyond... It's loaded with younger players... They haven't won slam/s just because they played goat in finals... Rafa and Fed lost most times in that situation... And you expect them to succeed?
Yes as it has happened forever....younger players at their physical peak should take over the older gen.

Fed,Hewitt, Roddick took over Sampras/Agassi

Djokovic, Nadal, Murray took over Federer gen

Who has taken over Djokodal?....and it's not just one gen but multiple gens spanning 10 to 12 years
 
Slams won by guys born in 80’s: 73
Slams won by guys born in 90’s: 1 (Thiem without beating any Big 3)

WTF? Not only has Lost Gen. lacked mental toughness and an All Time Great, Next Gen. seems poised to be slam less until their late 20’s.
 

maupp

Semi-Pro
Endless whining from two fans groups...

Next generation is constantly in slam QFs, SFs and Fs... Last rounds are packed with next generation players...

Yes, they can't get over finishing line, but there is a reason... They play against goat who is in his arguably best, and if not his best, then near his best...

Look at Federer who can get to multiple slam finals but can't beat same goat. Same with Rafa who can't beat Novak outside the clay for 8 years, can't even get set at hard court...

And now, you expect from some younger players (younger isn't advance anymore, deal with it) to beat Novak in slam final while Fedal can't do it for eternity...

Next generation is experiencing fate od Rodicks, Hewitts, Murrays and other numerous victims of greatest players ever... They are not their lever... no one in tennis history is... But, they ARE great players, and will be even greater in time to come...

Please stop whining... Big 3 will go away in few years and things will get back to normal, till another tennis freak emerge...
Very well said.

I always chuckle when I see people on these boards chastising next genners for getting tight on big points and "choking" against Nole when even their idols have had their fair share of "choking" against Djokovic.

Like you've said, these guys are consistently going deep in slams, reaching the later stages and mostly being stopped by Djokovic, the same guy that could stop any of Federer, Nadal, Murray and any other great players in the past, so like you I don't understand where this idea of calling them mugs for failing to beat Djokovic comes from. Does this mean your Federer, Nadal and co were also mugs for failing to beat Nole when they faced him in Slams? I mean Federer hasn't beaten Nole in a slam for almost 10 years while Nadal hasn't done so in any slam outside RG for almost as long.

I feel like most of these Next genners bashers don't think much before posting because most of the arguments they use to slam these kids can be used against their idols as well. "Oh look he got tight against Djokovic, he choked on a big point", so did Federer. "Look these kids can't beat Nole in a slam", neither could Federer for almost a decade. Some posters should start thinking before posting their moaning and whining about the next genners because it always comes off funny considering most of their ridicules could also apply to their idols.
 

Ace of Aces

Semi-Pro
It’s not like Tsonga, Ferrer, Berdych, or even Murray have been dominating the young guys. It’s the three best players of all time and just Djokovic lately. The real group to complain about are the guys older than Theim and younger than Delpo/Cilic.
 
Lol comparing veterans vs veterans.
Leave big3/Sampras/agassi level talent aside, If NextGen were even at the talent level of young delpo or Murray, none of the big3 would've won any slam after 2015 or 2016.
There is no way that Nadal would have dropped Roland Garros 2017 against a youngster with the talent of a Del Potro or a Murray, even if said youngster were a clay specialist. Nadal wouldn't even have been taken to five sets by such a youngster.
 
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