please suggest a soft poly, Yonex Vcore Pro 97

Tranqville

Rookie
I'm looking for a soft poly/copoly to string my new Yonex VCP 97 310. String pattern 16x19.
The frame is a bit muted so I want a lively, responsive yet controlled stringbed. I prefer 1.25 gauge but am open to suggestions. Will string around 40-44 tension, unless you would suggest otherwise for a specific string.

Priorities:
- Arm-friendly
- Crisp (neither brassy nor muted)
- Great feel
- Decent spin
- Decent duration


I'm an NTRP 4.0-4.5 1HBH aggressive baseliner who used to hit flat with moderate topspin and now developing a more heavy topspin game.

I have several candidate strings I have never tried and that are available in my area. I would like to find a long-term setup, changing strings too often is detrimental to my arm and game. Which one would you choose and why?

Luxilon Element
Tourna Big Hitter Black Zone
Tourna Big Hitter Silver
Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour
Kirschbaum Evolution
Yonex PTP


Some strings I tried recently:
Luxilon Smart (duration too short)
Luxilon 4G Soft (hurt my wrist)
Kirschbaum Pro Line 2 (good)
Kirschbaum Touch (excellent multifilament, but I prefer poly)
Yonex PTP Rev (nice, lacks a bit of feel, excellent spin, comfort is good)

I will very much appreciate your suggestions!
 
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blai212

Hall of Fame
silver 7 tour 1.25 mains/kirschbaum evolution 1.25 crosses at 44/42 tension should be good. I strung my own stick with HG 1.20/SPPP 1.18 and the crisp feel of HG works well in my VCP97
 

ichaseballs

Semi-Pro
yonex ptf and pts should have more pop than PTP

also proline2 is a great string, esp at that price range.
its got good pop for a soft-ish string
 

smithie

Rookie
Out of your list I have tried: Lux Element, S7T & PTP (all 1.25 gauge) so I will rank these in your categories for you:
Arm-friendly: Element > PTP > S7T
Crisp: S7T > PTP/Element
Feel: Element > S7T > PTP
Spin: S7T > Element > PTP
Duration: S7T > Element/PTP

If arm health is your priority I would choose either Element or PTP with a nod to Element if you can afford the additional cost as IMO, you get a better all round string. However, if you want a crisper response with a more spin, S7T is great but people have reported arm issues.
Its also worth noting that a number of people on here have reported that Yonex poly's play better in Yonex rackets so you might want to ignore everything I said above and go with PTP...
 

Tranqville

Rookie
Not much love for Black Zone string? From the specs and some of the reports, looks like a great soft all-rounder. Has very low friction against itself and snap back. BTW, I was surprised to find out that Element is one of the lowest friction strings out there.
 

smithie

Rookie
Not much love for Black Zone string? From the specs and some of the reports, looks like a great soft all-rounder. Has very low friction against itself and snap back. BTW, I was surprised to find out that Element is one of the lowest friction strings out there.
Honestly Element is such a good string that seems to go under everyone's radar (so I'm not surprised). I got it strung out of pure curiosity when I purchased my Gravity Tour's and was blown away. I was getting just as much spin and action on the ball as I do with shaped strings (i.e. that classic luxilon dip you see at the baseline/kick serves). The only thing I would say is that when using it in open pattern rackets, people have complained about its playability and durability. However, in my 18x20 Gravity Tour's, the longevity is better than the times reported and I can normally play with it until it breaks.

@J011yroger put out a shining review on his thread, so it is definitely one to consider.
 
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10S-Junkie

Rookie
Not much love for Black Zone string? From the specs and some of the reports, looks like a great soft all-rounder. Has very low friction against itself and snap back. BTW, I was surprised to find out that Element is one of the lowest friction strings out there.
I used to string Tourna Black Zone in my Vcore Tour G 310 when I had that racquet and it met all the criteria you listed.
 

Tranqville

Rookie
silver 7 tour 1.25 mains/kirschbaum evolution 1.25 crosses at 44/42 tension should be good. I strung my own stick with HG 1.20/SPPP 1.18 and the crisp feel of HG works well in my VCP97
Would such low tension work for an open pattern 97 racquet?
 

socallefty

Legend
Quoting you but I'm open to anyone for comparaing Cyclone Tour 16 VS Hyper G Soft 1.30 ? I appreciate Cyclone tour 16 but interested in a comparaison from another soft popular string.
For me, VCT had slightly less power/higher control, smaller sweet-spot and less spin than HyperG and HyperG Soft. I played both in 18g on a Pure Strike Tour at 44 lbs. I also hybrided them with VS mains at 47/44 lbs and the comparison was similar. They both feel soft, but HG Soft lasts about 15-18 hours for me before it goes dead whereas VCT felt ‘boardy’ after about 10 hours.
 
I've found that with Yonex poly's, you just need to get a gauge thinner than you would normally get. Their 17g is 1.20 anyway, so if you usually get 17, go ahead and get 17g. You'll be getting 1.20 instead of 1.25.
 

Tranqville

Rookie
silver 7 tour 1.25 mains/kirschbaum evolution 1.25 crosses at 44/42 tension should be good. I strung my own stick with HG 1.20/SPPP 1.18 and the crisp feel of HG works well in my VCP97
In general, when we string hybrid poly/poly, do we put the spin-oriented and stiffer string in the mains and softer round poly in the crosses?
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
I've found that with Yonex poly's, you just need to get a gauge thinner than you would normally get. Their 17g is 1.20 anyway, so if you usually get 17, go ahead and get 17g. You'll be getting 1.20 instead of 1.25.
-not a direct coment on you @Steve Huff ,, more like a mini RANT from me on this topic

-this is what frustrates me about the way yonex and some other companies are labeling their strings now, more so now then before
-the yonex sales rep. was like, "i prefer the 1.25mm!", he avoided saying he liked the 17g strings, i just quietly listened and bit my tongue the whole time, :mad:

-16g = 1.30mm "."
-17g = 1.25mm "."
-18g = 1.20mm "."

-soo frustrating, why they gotta make it so difficult/complicated
-even the PROS are having to be on the look out for this "miss labeling" (per a recent TW pod cast with a WTA pro)
 

Borissimo

New User
I play with the 2018 or 19 VCP 310 (red lettering, 2 gens prior to the newest) and IMO Poly tour rev 17g is fantastic in that frame. I have sensitive elbow and have not had any issues.
 

Nate7-5

Professional
-not a direct coment on you @Steve Huff ,, more like a mini RANT from me on this topic

-this is what frustrates me about the way yonex and some other companies are labeling their strings now, more so now then before
-the yonex sales rep. was like, "i prefer the 1.25mm!", he avoided saying he liked the 17g strings, i just quietly listened and bit my tongue the whole time, :mad:

-16g = 1.30mm "."
-17g = 1.25mm "."
-18g = 1.20mm "."

-soo frustrating, why they gotta make it so difficult/complicated
-even the PROS are having to be on the look out for this "miss labeling" (per a recent TW pod cast with a WTA pro)
Who cares about the "gauge?" There is no standard they all follow, so just go by the exact diameter. Are you mad that Luxilon calls 1.25 16L? There are also plenty of strings that are 1.23 or 1.18.
 

AceyMan

Semi-Pro
I've been stringing this Yonex for my local clients who have already added this frame to their bag,

=> TF 4S 1.25 x YPTP 1.25 is a fine ride.

Substitute your favorite square string for the mains; I have a reel of the 4S.

In this mix I run the cross about +1 lbs/0,4 kg over the mains.

/Acey
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
Who cares about the "gauge?" There is no standard they all follow, so just go by the exact diameter. Are you mad that Luxilon calls 1.25 16L? There are also plenty of strings that are 1.23 or 1.18.
-its the confusion that mislabeling creates that buggs me
-luxilon is not the worst anymore!,
-solinco, gosen, yonex are the bad ones now
-if one/you are not aware of the string thickness you are buying/wanting, you'll get the incorrect thickness eventually
-next time you are purchasing string, take a closer look at the "mm" number before you buy

-i have to deal with this all the time while stringing for others
-it can take extra wasted time (on the phone) to reach clients and/or ascertain their correct/desired string gaguge/thickness
-here is a video of this instance at a WTA level event
 

Tranqville

Rookie
I copy my report about Black Zone here. I had my first hit with BZ 16 yesterday. Yonex VCORE PRO 97, strung @ 48.5/46 Feels like resins make it play elastic, plush, comfortable, yet firm, crisp and controlled, not mushy. Love the sound. I found the string to be less powerful than I expected. Power was great in the sweet spot, but dropped abruptly on off-center hits. Spin requires a lot of HRS. It's a strong candidate for long-term setup for me. I hope to test it against Kirschbaum Evolution, Luxilon Element, Hyper-G and Hyper-G soft.
 

Tranqville

Rookie
I had my first hit with Element today. It's a good string but somehow does not open up the best in VCORE PRO. I can't quite explain it. It plays soft and comfortable, as advertised. Spin is surprisingly good. I found it low-powered, slightly muted.

Compared to BZ, it's slightly more comfortable and less crisp. Based on the first hit only, I slightly prefer BZ.
 

faded_lines

Rookie
Still playing with gut/poly in the VCP97. Probably have about 10 hrs on the setup and still playing great. I'm finally getting dialed in and really loving this setup. I'm swinging faster and smoother to generate more spin to compensate for the power of the gut and balls are really jumping off the court.

I also just strung up my other VPC97 with Oehms Black Pearl Rough 1.21 after reading great reviews on them. Will report back how they feel in the VPC97.
 

Tranqville

Rookie
I had a second training session with Element today. I'm so impressed with the string! The string broke in and plays great. I felt so connected to the ball on my topspin backhand when hitting crosscourt. Painting the desired ball path in the air, hitting extreme angles, or deep into the corner with pace. Tons of easy spin. Wonderful comfort, feels so silky smooth. Played a couple of nice touch volleys. I just hope Element lasts a bit before performance drops down.
 

Blahovic

Semi-Pro
I'm looking for a soft poly/copoly to string my new Yonex VCP 97 310. String pattern 16x19.
The frame is a bit muted so I want a lively, responsive yet controlled stringbed. I prefer 1.25 gauge but am open to suggestions. Will string around 40-44 tension, unless you would suggest otherwise for a specific string.

Priorities:
- Arm-friendly
- Crisp (neither brassy nor muted)
- Great feel
- Decent spin
- Decent duration


I'm an NTRP 4.0-4.5 1HBH aggressive baseliner who used to hit flat with moderate topspin and now developing a more heavy topspin game.

I have several candidate strings I have never tried and that are available in my area. I would like to find a long-term setup, changing strings too often is detrimental to my arm and game. Which one would you choose and why?

Luxilon Element
Tourna Big Hitter Black Zone
Tourna Big Hitter Silver
Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour
Kirschbaum Evolution
Yonex PTP


Some strings I tried recently:
Luxilon Smart (duration too short)
Luxilon 4G Soft (hurt my wrist)
Kirschbaum Pro Line 2 (good)
Kirschbaum Touch (excellent multifilament, but I prefer poly)
Yonex PTP Rev (nice, lacks a bit of feel, excellent spin, comfort is good)

I will very much appreciate your suggestions!
Mate, my honest advice is--just play with the Kirschbaum string you like, as long as you're fine with the price.

You'll go crazy and spend loads of money comparing strings. If there's something you like and it lets you do what you want to do, just stick with it. Once you find something you like, stick with it for a decent length of time and build consistency.

I'm not saying strings don't matter--they do-- but the differences between good polys are minor. Any gains for amateurs like us are going to be so marginal.
 

kimboslice

New User
I've myself started my journey with softer poly strings. The ones that stick out to me are:

-Hyper G Soft (17 gauge). I like this string because I prefer shaped poly strings, and I currently have this set up with the exact same racket, Yonex VCP 97 (310).
-Tolason Pro Focus. Harder string to find, but they are soft rounded polys which move nicely in the stringbed. I love the feel of these strings, but I'd prefer a shaped poly for more bite/spin.
 

Tranqville

Rookie
If there's something you like and it lets you do what you want to do, just stick with it. Once you find something you like, stick with it for a decent length of time and build consistency.
That's my plan, exactly, and the reason I started on this journey. I'd like to find a long-term setup.
I'm a big hitter, and I have a sensitive arm. String and racquet tech matter to me - a lot. Connection to the ball is important to my game. I play by feel. Strings feel very different to me, so they matter. I'm not a pro, I cannot reproduce my best performance day in and day out, but I just want to give myself a better chance.
 

BPlain

Rookie
That's my plan, exactly, and the reason I started on this journey. I'd like to find a long-term setup.
I'm a big hitter, and I have a sensitive arm. String and racquet tech matter to me - a lot. Connection to the ball is important to my game. I play by feel. Strings feel very different to me, so they matter. I'm not a pro, I cannot reproduce my best performance day in and day out, but I just want to give myself a better chance.
All sounds very familiar/similar - sensitive arm, big hitting, and play by feel - and I landed on Tier One Black Knight 1.23 as my go-to. If I ever went to a non-ProKennex frame, VCP 310 would be my first stop.
 
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