Please Take A Guess And Vote On Which Legends Are Part Of This Exceptionally Exclusive Club

Which Legends Are Part Of This Exceptionally Exclusive Club

  • Connors

  • Borg

  • McEnroe

  • Lendl

  • Becker

  • Agassi

  • Sampras

  • Federer

  • Nadal

  • Djokovic


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Neptune

Hall of Fame
Peak 6-year span with a win rate above 70% against both top5 and top10.

>70% against top5
>70% against top10


Borg 1976-81
76.92% 50-15 (65)
80.91% 89-21 (110)

Lendl 1984-89
70.27% 52-22 (74)
71.55% 83-33 (116)

Pete 1993-98
72.34% 34-13 (47)
71.29% 72-29 (101)

Nole(1) 2011-16
72.53% 66-25 (91)
80.46% 140-34 (174)

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Connors 1974-79
61.36% 27-17 (44)
74.04% 77-27 (104)

McEnroe 1979-84
60.81% 45-29 (74)
67.50% 81-39 (120)

Becker 1986-91
67.27% 37-18 (55)
70.83% 68-28 (96)

Agassi 1998-03
60.00% 21-14 (35)
58.73% 37-26 (63)

Fed 2004-09
65.67% 44-23 (67)
75.21% 91-30 (121)

Rafa 2008-13
64.38% 47-26 (73)
69.92% 93-40 (133)

Nole(2) 2018-23
68.52% 37-17 (54)
74.51% 76-26 (102)
 
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nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Peak 6-year span with a win rate above 70% against both top5 and top10.

>70% against top5
>70% against top10


Borg 1976-81
76.92% 50-15 (65)
80.91% 89-21 (110)

Lendl 1984-1989
70.27% 52-22 (74)
71.55% 83-33 (116)

Pete 1993-98
72.34% 34-13 (47)
71.29% 72-29 (101)

Nole 2011-16
72.53% 66-25 (91)
80.46% 140-34 (174)
Lol surprised
 

Jonesy

Legend
Kinda surprised that guy is not on this list. Not that suprised that other guy is on this list even if i didn't vote in him before i checked.
 

Holmes

Hall of Fame
Peak 6-year span with a win rate above 70% against both top5 and top10.

>70% against top5
>70% against top10


Borg 1976-81
76.92% 50-15 (65)
80.91% 89-21 (110)

Lendl 1984-1989
70.27% 52-22 (74)
71.55% 83-33 (116)

Pete 1993-98
72.34% 34-13 (47)
71.29% 72-29 (101)

Nole 2011-16
72.53% 66-25 (91)
80.46% 140-34 (174)
Fed?
Made ya look!
 

Pheasant

Legend
Ok. I will fire away. Which players played .700+ ball vs the top-5 and top-10 for a years?

Becker was known to play elite players very tough. I'll add him. Lendl was so incredibly dominant after he fixed his diet at the end of 1984, that I'll include him, although he'll be close. His 1985-87 seasons were truly legendary; probably enough to offset his whole laundry list of injuries in 1988, along wtih his decline years of 1989-91. Sampras was incredibly dominant as well. He's the easiest pick. Oh yeah. There's Borg. There's no doubt Borg is there.

Let's see, that's Borg, Becker, Lendl, Sampras. And honestly, the Big 3 is the toughest, except Djoker. Djoker is clearly there. I'm not sure Fed made it. years like 2013, 2016, and 2008 wreck his stats. Nadal probably made it. The guy probably played .850 ball against elite players on clay. With early round knockouts on grass, he wouldn't have faced many. That leaves hard courts. Nadal will be there.

Ok. I'll say:

Borg
Djokovic
Sampras
Becker
Lendl
Nadal

And I will say in that order too. I.e, if you add the top-5 winning pct to the top-10 winning pct, I think the list will be in this order.
 

Pheasant

Legend
Nadal ruined Federer's top 5 count in those years.
Good call. At one point, Nadal beat Fed 5 straight times. And I’m pretty sure Nadal was ranked in the top-5 each time. I also remember Fed going 2-4 vs Nadal, yet 90-1 vs the rest of the field in 2006. By 2007, his stats started slipping(After Dubai).
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Good call. At one point, Nadal beat Fed 5 straight times. And I’m pretty sure Nadal was ranked in the top-5 each time. I also remember Fed going 2-4 vs Nadal, yet 90-1 vs the rest of the field in 2006. By 2007, his stats started slipping(After Dubai).
Just imagining this wasn't even peak Rafa and still went 2-4 vs fed.

I am sure in 2006 fed didn't care but he should have taken this Nadal issue more seriously then itself.
 

Pheasant

Legend
Just imagining this wasn't even peak Rafa and still went 2-4 vs fed.

I am sure in 2006 fed didn't care but he should have taken this Nadal issue more seriously then itself.
I wish that Fed had switched rackets much earlier. But he didn’t, so that’s on him.

Fed, 90 inch racket years vs 97 inch racket years.

2010-2013, age 29-32 seasons(last 4 seasons of old racket):
248-55, .818 overall
23-25, .479 vs top 5
46-34, .575 vs top 10
Includes:
5-5 vs Murray
3-9 vs Nadal
7-10 vs Djokovic
3-5 vs Berdych
10-0 vs Wawrinka

2014-2017, age 33-36 seasons. First 4 years of new racket.

206-34, .858 overall
21-10, .677 vs top 5
47-17, .734 vs top 10
Includes:
5-1 vs Nadal
5-0 vs Murray
6-8 vs Djokovic
8-0 vs Berdych
7-2 vs Wawrinka

Fed completely turned things around against players like Nadal, Murray, and Berdych. He was a combined 11-19 against those 3 with the crap racket. After the switch, he went 18-1 against those same 3 players. Djoker still kept his winning ways against Fed. Djoker was the only one that solved old man Fed with a new racket.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
I wish that Fed had switched rackets much earlier. But he didn’t, so that’s on him.

Fed, 90 inch racket years vs 97 inch racket years.

2010-2013, age 29-32 seasons(last 4 seasons of old racket):
248-55, .818 overall
23-25, .479 vs top 5
46-34, .575 vs top 10
Includes:
5-5 vs Murray
3-9 vs Nadal
7-10 vs Djokovic
3-5 vs Berdych
10-0 vs Wawrinka

2014-2017, age 33-36 seasons. First 4 years of new racket.

206-34, .858 overall
21-10, .677 vs top 5
47-17, .734 vs top 10
Includes:
5-1 vs Nadal
5-0 vs Murray
6-8 vs Djokovic
8-0 vs Berdych
7-2 vs Wawrinka

Fed completely turned things around against players like Nadal, Murray, and Berdych. He was a combined 11-19 against those 3 with the crap racket. After the switch, he went 18-1 against those same 3 players. Djoker still kept his winning ways against Fed. Djoker was the only one that solved old man Fed with a new racket.
Can you please do this for age 29 to 31 instead ? 2013 might skew things a bit plus he did switch his racket for Hamburg once.
 

Pheasant

Legend
2010-2012 seasons.
200-37, .844 overall
21-17, .553 vs top 5
42-24, .636 vs top 10
Includes:
3-5 vs Nadal
5-4 vs Murray
3-4 vs Berdych
11-13 overall vs these 3

Also note that now, 2010-2012 includes all heathy years.

2014-2017 includes his bad knee year(2016). His knee actually buckled vs Raonic in that heart-breaking match. I was 100% confident that his career was over after that.
 

thrust

Legend
Ok. I will fire away. Which players played .700+ ball vs the top-5 and top-10 for a years?

Becker was known to play elite players very tough. I'll add him. Lendl was so incredibly dominant after he fixed his diet at the end of 1984, that I'll include him, although he'll be close. His 1985-87 seasons were truly legendary; probably enough to offset his whole laundry list of injuries in 1988, along wtih his decline years of 1989-91. Sampras was incredibly dominant as well. He's the easiest pick. Oh yeah. There's Borg. There's no doubt Borg is there.

Let's see, that's Borg, Becker, Lendl, Sampras. And honestly, the Big 3 is the toughest, except Djoker. Djoker is clearly there. I'm not sure Fed made it. years like 2013, 2016, and 2008 wreck his stats. Nadal probably made it. The guy probably played .850 ball against elite players on clay. With early round knockouts on grass, he wouldn't have faced many. That leaves hard courts. Nadal will be there.

Ok. I'll say:

Borg
Djokovic
Sampras
Becker
Lendl
Nadal

And I will say in that order too. I.e, if you add the top-5 winning pct to the top-10 winning pct, I think the list will be in this order.
Becker and Lendl over Federer-NONSENSE!
Djokovic
Nadal
Federer
Borg
Sampras
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
I wish that Fed had switched rackets much earlier. But he didn’t, so that’s on him.

Fed, 90 inch racket years vs 97 inch racket years.

2010-2013, age 29-32 seasons(last 4 seasons of old racket):
248-55, .818 overall
23-25, .479 vs top 5
46-34, .575 vs top 10
Includes:
5-5 vs Murray
3-9 vs Nadal
7-10 vs Djokovic
3-5 vs Berdych
10-0 vs Wawrinka

2014-2017, age 33-36 seasons. First 4 years of new racket.

206-34, .858 overall
21-10, .677 vs top 5
47-17, .734 vs top 10
Includes:
5-1 vs Nadal
5-0 vs Murray
6-8 vs Djokovic
8-0 vs Berdych
7-2 vs Wawrinka

Fed completely turned things around against players like Nadal, Murray, and Berdych. He was a combined 11-19 against those 3 with the crap racket. After the switch, he went 18-1 against those same 3 players. Djoker still kept his winning ways against Fed. Djoker was the only one that solved old man Fed with a new racket.

Crazy stats...
 

thrust

Legend
Ok. I will fire away. Which players played .700+ ball vs the top-5 and top-10 for a years?

Becker was known to play elite players very tough. I'll add him. Lendl was so incredibly dominant after he fixed his diet at the end of 1984, that I'll include him, although he'll be close. His 1985-87 seasons were truly legendary; probably enough to offset his whole laundry list of injuries in 1988, along wtih his decline years of 1989-91. Sampras was incredibly dominant as well. He's the easiest pick. Oh yeah. There's Borg. There's no doubt Borg is there.

Let's see, that's Borg, Becker, Lendl, Sampras. And honestly, the Big 3 is the toughest, except Djoker. Djoker is clearly there. I'm not sure Fed made it. years like 2013, 2016, and 2008 wreck his stats. Nadal probably made it. The guy probably played .850 ball against elite players on clay. With early round knockouts on grass, he wouldn't have faced many. That leaves hard courts. Nadal will be there.

Ok. I'll say:

Borg
Djokovic
Sampras
Becker
Lendl
Nadal

And I will say in that order too. I.e, if you add the top-5 winning pct to the top-10 winning pct, I think the list will be in this order.
How can one rate Becker over Agassi who dominated their H-H, plus Andre has two more slams, 1 YE at #1 to Becker's-0, and many more weeks at #1? I was never an Agassi fan, but fact are facts. It seems to me Becker is the most overrated great player here. Also, there is no way Becker is superior to Nadal, assuming you ranked them #1-6.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
How can one rate Becker over Agassi who dominated their H-H, plus Andre has two more slams, 1 YE at #1 to Becker's-0, and many more weeks at #1? I was never an Agassi fan, but fact are facts. It seems to me Becker is the most overrated great player here. Also, there is no way Becker is superior to Nadal, assuming you ranked them #1-6.
It's just absurd. Agassi's career is clearly superior on every level to Boris's, and Boris is a legitimate ATG and legend. I don't think Becker is overrated since the vast majority of people here never watched him play (or Agassi for that matter), though I will exclude most of the people who are active on Former Pro Player forum. Not even Boris himself would argue his career was superior to Andre's-- it's impossible to make the argument.
 

DIMI_D

Hall of Fame
Peak 6-year span with a win rate above 70% against both top5 and top10.

>70% against top5
>70% against top10


Borg 1976-81
76.92% 50-15 (65)
80.91% 89-21 (110)

Lendl 1984-89
70.27% 52-22 (74)
71.55% 83-33 (116)

Pete 1993-98
72.34% 34-13 (47)
71.29% 72-29 (101)

Nole 2011-16
72.53% 66-25 (91)
80.46% 140-34 (174)
I had all 4 of these guys but guessed Connor’s and Fed as well
 

aldeayeah

G.O.A.T.
Well Novak has to be there, otherwise you wouldn't have made the thread. Now, who else? Borg, I guess.

edit: i knew it lol

This kind of cherry picking stat threads used to be really common a few years ago... :unsure:
 

SonnyT

Legend
I wish that Fed had switched rackets much earlier. But he didn’t, so that’s on him.

Fed, 90 inch racket years vs 97 inch racket years.

2010-2013, age 29-32 seasons(last 4 seasons of old racket):
248-55, .818 overall
23-25, .479 vs top 5
46-34, .575 vs top 10
Includes:
5-5 vs Murray
3-9 vs Nadal
7-10 vs Djokovic
3-5 vs Berdych
10-0 vs Wawrinka

2014-2017, age 33-36 seasons. First 4 years of new racket.

206-34, .858 overall
21-10, .677 vs top 5
47-17, .734 vs top 10
Includes:
5-1 vs Nadal
5-0 vs Murray
6-8 vs Djokovic
8-0 vs Berdych
7-2 vs Wawrinka

Fed completely turned things around against players like Nadal, Murray, and Berdych. He was a combined 11-19 against those 3 with the crap racket. After the switch, he went 18-1 against those same 3 players. Djoker still kept his winning ways against Fed. Djoker was the only one that solved old man Fed with a new racket.
That's what I was saying! Federer was getting better with age, except for Djokovic. There were '15 WB to '16 AO, three straight slams where Fed lost only to Djokovic. He was clearly the 2nd best player in the world.

Thanks, Pheasant!
 
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Razer

Legend
That's what I was saying! Federer was getting better with age, except for Djokovic.

Thanks, Pheasant!

If Federer got better and better with age then Nole now must be at his absolute peak when he got clobbered by Sinner and Alcaraz at USO and W.

Thanks, Sonny T(roll)
 

SonnyT

Legend
Nice try, but that's 10 years after!

It was amazing that Federer had a resurgence of such magnitude with a change of racquet. I take back all the bad things I said about him. Without Djokovic, he would've won 5 extra slams (3 WB, 1 AO + UO) after the racquet change.
 
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Neptune

Hall of Fame
Nice try, but that's 10 years after!

It was amazing that Federer had a resurgence of such magnitude with a change of racquet. I take back all the bad things I said about him. Without Djokovic, he would've won 5 extra slams (3 WB, 1 AO + UO) after the racquet change.
Both Fed and Nole have left slams on the table. Weeks@#1 is a very telling metric, although Borg and Rafa are exceptions for different reasons.
 
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