PLS, Tell me about the Prince Precision Graphite!

Tenny

Professional
I am really trying not to expand my racquet collection but unfortunately, I've reached the point where I am getting racquets for free!

I was given a old Prince Precision Graphite by my older T-buddy. Looks like an OS, matte black color with blue and white stripes around frame. Most distinguishing feature is the 6 o'clock part of the frame. It's different from the rest of frame. It's another piece of flat-looking material and strings go through to the sides of the frame. I remember I've seen a similar shaped racquet but made of metal (aluminum?).

Where in the racquet history is this located? How did it play? Was there any pro who played this racquet??? Thanks in advance!

Tenny
 

J D

Semi-Pro
The Prince Precision Graphite came out around 1983. It was designed to be a slightly lighter, easier to swing version of the POG. I believe it weighs about 11.8 ounces. It was made in both a MP and OS head. It has good spin, excellent control, and a little more power than the POG. The MP in particular is a really nice player's frame. Pam Shriver used the OS for a couple of years, but she's the only pro I remember playing with one.
 

!Tym

Hall of Fame
More power? Hmm, don't know if I would agree with that, but I havn't tried the OS version.

I have the mid version, a 90sq. in. head, clearly smaller than the POG Mids 93 head.

It comes from the same mold as Pioline's white painted racket that he used to make the U.S. Open finals.

The Precision Graphite comes with a plastic throat bridge, which makes it feel VERY flexible in my opinion.

The racket has kind of a bland, muted, somewhat dead feel, but fery fiberglassy feeling and solid too.

The spin is excellent, but the racket has NO power whatsover. Compared to the POG Mid or the PS6.0 Mid, and there is no comparison. The Precision Graphite simply does not stand up in the new era power wise, it's particularly anemic. It seems as though no matter how hard you swing, the racket just absorbs all the energy like a sponge. It really feels that flexible, no pop.

However, you can easily keep the ball deep with the racket with pinpoint control, you just can't really put any STING on the ball is all.

It's got the BEST mold for a frame ever...it just feels soooo natural in the hand. More natural than any other mold I've ever tried in my hands. The mold and aerodynamics of the racket GREATLY facilitate volleys and one-handed backhands. It's a FUN racket to play with, you can maneuver the ball at will and absolutely no arm or wrist paint to speak of. It's the most therapeutic racket I've ever tried, though admitedly I havn't tried them all.

All in all, it's a great racket but dated for today's play. The POG and PS 6.0 due to their relatively high stiffness stand up MUCH better in my opinion. They were in a way ahead of their time I feel, whereas some rackets of that time were simply just too mushy or soft to transition to the "modern" era of frames.

I sometimes toy around with it when I'm playing a weaker player as it makes things more even (not as much putaway power) and more pleasureable for both. For me, it makes things MORE pleasureable actually. I feel total mastery of the ball with this racket and totally at one with it. Is the feel the best I've tried? No, it's a little too vanilla and bland for my tastes, maybe the most vanilla feeling I've ever tried in fact; but it's the MOLD of the frame that keeps me coming back. It feels SO much like an extension of your arm that you'd think I was Edward Precision Hands...such is my precision when wielding this thing.

With that said, STRINGING this puppy up CAN be a REAL chore...possibly, maybe, sometimes... The wide open 14x18 string pattern is a breeze IF you can get to that point. Weaving the strings through the plastic throat bridge can be problematic, however. Sometimes you can and sometimes you can't...without 30 minutes of wiggling and niggling and cursing and sipping ice tea and such...very frustrating. See the thing is you have to wiggle the string through a very narrow curved and long channel to get it through the throat bridge. Sometimes it slides right through, sometimes it gets stuck and you have no leverage to wiggle it through...sooo frustrating.

I wish Prince would make an updated version of this mold without the plastic throat bridge...simply not enough rigity to give enough pop in my opinion.

If they did update this mold, it would be my choice for a player's racket easy.
 

Deuce

Banned
The "white painted racquet" of Pioline's was the Prince Magnesium 90. His was the only white version of the frame I've ever seen - all other Mag 90s were grey. I've got 4 of Pioline's white Mags. Unfortunately, they're all dead - a couple have hairline cracks.

The Precision Graphite was a great frame. I very briefly owned two. In the mid-eighties, a guy at the courts had an OS one that I tried. I hit absolutely everything with it. But I hated the idea of Oversize. Nonetheless, the feeling was so good that I ordered two the very next day (hey - I was a dumb tennager at the time). I ordered them from a well known place in the Baltimore area. When they arrived, however, one had the nylon throatpiece - with which I was familiar - and the other one had a 'regular' throat - simply a continuation of the racquet head. This latter one was the new version of the frame. I couldn't believe that the store had sent me two different versions - so I sent them both back.
 

J D

Semi-Pro
!Tym, I'm surprised at your statement. For over 2 years, I used the POG mid and my doubles partner used the Precision MP. His MP felt a lot softer but definitely had more power than my POG's. Perhaps your Precision is completely played out or maybe its balance is off. Prince's quality control back then was really bad. Every frame was the correct weight but the balance could vary by over 1/2 inch one way or the other. I think my partner went through several before he found a couple he liked.

BTW, Deuce, the Precision OS was a sweet hitting frame and the second highest scoring frame ever rated by Tennis Mag back in the good old days when they used an extensive numerical scoring system. And before anyone asks, the highest rated frame through 1985 was the Yamaha Black Gold 90, not the Pro Staff (which was third).
 

!Tym

Hall of Fame
It's in basically brand new condition, as close to brand new as can be, so it's not played out.

Maybe we have different rackets in mind? The Precision Graphite MID I'm talking about was definitely way lower in power than the Graphite Mid and way flexier as well, there is absolutely no comparison...these names are rather generic, so we might well be talking about different models. Because if you tried mine, there is abolutely no way anyone would mistake it for having more power than the POG.

With it's nylon bridge, it's rather an anemic racket in my opinion. Cuts through the air beautifully however.

It's head size also is not a MP, mine it's written as a Prince Precision Graphite 90, and it's definitely got a visibly smaller head size than the POG Mid.
 

!Tym

Hall of Fame
The Magnesium 90 Pioline used looks like it has the EXACT same mold as my Precision Graphite 90. How does it differ? I assume slightly more flexible and otherwise the same?
 

Deuce

Banned
It's not the same mold. Magnesium is a metal, while the Precision Graphite is graphite, fiberglass, etc. Because magnesium possesses entirely different properties than does either graphite or fiberglass, they cannot share the same mold. If you ever have a Mag 90 in your hands, you'll see that the only thing it has in common with the Precision Graphite is the nylon 'yoke', or throatpiece.
 

!Tym

Hall of Fame
Ok, I'll take your word on it. But just from appearances, the Magenesium 90 looks like it has the EXACT same shape and mold as my Precision Graphite 90.

Of course, if I held it in my hand, I'm sure I'd pick out the nuances...no biggie.
 

nunchuku

New User
Has the Prince Precision Graphite evolved into any of the current Prince sticks? Is the Diablo the closest in terms of mould and specs? It is very stiff though. More Precision is the last one I know off.
 
More power? Hmm, don't know if I would agree with that, but I havn't tried the OS version.

I have the mid version, a 90sq. in. head, clearly smaller than the POG Mids 93 head.

It comes from the same mold as Pioline's white painted racket that he used to make the U.S. Open finals.

The Precision Graphite comes with a plastic throat bridge, which makes it feel VERY flexible in my opinion.

The racket has kind of a bland, muted, somewhat dead feel, but fery fiberglassy feeling and solid too.

The spin is excellent, but the racket has NO power whatsover. Compared to the POG Mid or the PS6.0 Mid, and there is no comparison. The Precision Graphite simply does not stand up in the new era power wise, it's particularly anemic. It seems as though no matter how hard you swing, the racket just absorbs all the energy like a sponge. It really feels that flexible, no pop.

However, you can easily keep the ball deep with the racket with pinpoint control, you just can't really put any STING on the ball is all.

It's got the BEST mold for a frame ever...it just feels soooo natural in the hand. More natural than any other mold I've ever tried in my hands. The mold and aerodynamics of the racket GREATLY facilitate volleys and one-handed backhands. It's a FUN racket to play with, you can maneuver the ball at will and absolutely no arm or wrist paint to speak of. It's the most therapeutic racket I've ever tried, though admitedly I havn't tried them all.

All in all, it's a great racket but dated for today's play. The POG and PS 6.0 due to their relatively high stiffness stand up MUCH better in my opinion. They were in a way ahead of their time I feel, whereas some rackets of that time were simply just too mushy or soft to transition to the "modern" era of frames.

I sometimes toy around with it when I'm playing a weaker player as it makes things more even (not as much putaway power) and more pleasureable for both. For me, it makes things MORE pleasureable actually. I feel total mastery of the ball with this racket and totally at one with it. Is the feel the best I've tried? No, it's a little too vanilla and bland for my tastes, maybe the most vanilla feeling I've ever tried in fact; but it's the MOLD of the frame that keeps me coming back. It feels SO much like an extension of your arm that you'd think I was Edward Precision Hands...such is my precision when wielding this thing.

With that said, STRINGING this puppy up CAN be a REAL chore...possibly, maybe, sometimes... The wide open 14x18 string pattern is a breeze IF you can get to that point. Weaving the strings through the plastic throat bridge can be problematic, however. Sometimes you can and sometimes you can't...without 30 minutes of wiggling and niggling and cursing and sipping ice tea and such...very frustrating. See the thing is you have to wiggle the string through a very narrow curved and long channel to get it through the throat bridge. Sometimes it slides right through, sometimes it gets stuck and you have no leverage to wiggle it through...sooo frustrating.

I wish Prince would make an updated version of this mold without the plastic throat bridge...simply not enough rigity to give enough pop in my opinion.

If they did update this mold, it would be my choice for a player's racket easy.

Thank you for the description of stringing this puppy. I am going to attempt to re-string the one I bought brand new as a young kid and was a bit hesitant with that plastic throat.
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
Playedmy best tennis of my life with that frame. Tons of spin and great control. Miss that stick
 
Man I loved this one too! So flexy .. great balance too mine was extremely head light like an old 85 pro staff . But even more head light than that .I'd put mine at 12-15 points HL. But 2 things eventually made me give her up. The overall weight . And the hmmmmmmmm how should I put this....... well..... that plastic / nylon throat Just screamed cheap old man cut off jean shorts and tank top. I hate that about myself but it's true in my own head.. just can't get over that plastic throat.....
But my lord that racket is just so "sublime" when hitting with it. I totally agree with the above poster's... it's like an extension of ones arm, albeit a heavy kinda "not so cool looking 70's dated " arm
 
Did anyone out there play with the ... I assume the second gen of this ? The one without the plastic throat? If so did it compare to the one with the plastic bridge?
I would solely be looking at the flex between the two. I'm also wondering where it flex wise , stacks up to the grey power flex 90 or the other prince 90 that looked damn near identical to the power flex.. ugh the name of that escapes me now. But yeah , be interesting to know the flex lineage for the 1984 to 1989 prince 90 series .
My guess is
The prince Boron 90?
The prince graphite 90 with the stabilizer bar green 4 striped
Prince spectrum 90
Prince graphite pro 90 maybe .......
After these I'm at a total loss.. anyone
 
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