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graycrait

Hall of Fame
I've been experimenting with nat gut, multis and syn gut in the POG 107s up to today. I strung up 18G Ashway Kevlar in the mains at 60lbs and 16G Zyex in the crosses at 65lbs. More bite on ground strokes than the gut, slices come off the bed a bit differently so have to adjust to that, serve control was very good. Weighs 12.9oz, 11pts HL with two overgrips & dampener.
 

shamaho

Semi-Pro
So it looks like the POG is dead...
This iteration at least... I wanted to buy a couple after demoing it, but they did not get back in stock as advertised in the product page.

So I had to look elsewhere.


Excuse my brevity, sent from mobile on puny keyboard and rocking public transport
 

mrw

Semi-Pro
Yes but once the present stock is gone... kaput. Even worse is that I can not find grommets anywhere. For a racquet with such a long production and with a faithful following you would think Prince would at least make the grommets available for a few years after it is discontinued.

Probably a marketing decision. F'm force them to buy a new stick...
 

shamaho

Semi-Pro
Yes but once the present stock is gone... kaput. Even worse is that I can not find grommets anywhere. For a racquet with such a long production and with a faithful following you would think Prince would at least make the grommets available for a few years after it is discontinued.

Probably a marketing decision. F'm force them to buy a new stick...
Now there's an opportunity for a business! for someone with a 3d Printer.... if they could get the exact designs, they could print them... and even incorporate some improvements....
 

jonestim

Hall of Fame
Yes but once the present stock is gone... kaput. Even worse is that I can not find grommets anywhere. For a racquet with such a long production and with a faithful following you would think Prince would at least make the grommets available for a few years after it is discontinued.

Probably a marketing decision. F'm force them to buy a new stick...
I don't think it's a marketing decision. I think it's just that Prince has been really mismanaged over the last couple years. TW is having problems getting in grommets for their CURRENT racquets. Their products are great. Their management is horrible.
 

mrw

Semi-Pro
Now there's an opportunity for a business! for someone with a 3d Printer.... if they could get the exact designs, they could print them... and even incorporate some improvements....
This is a great idea. Grommets for classic racquets long out of production. I have a need for a slew of Head Composite Edge grommets and a few others.

So who among us is computer nerdly enough to pull this off?
 

graycrait

Hall of Fame
Its a shame
Ah but that s the 107, I was talking about the 100... and I'm in Europe so... it's a no go for me
I see TW USA has 1 new POG 100 left and 1 used POG 100 for sale. But shipping would be a killer. Even so I feel your "pain." It has been just lately I "fell in love" with the POG 107, so grabbed 4 off TW's used and new list.
 

BlueB

Legend
Just re-checking in to report that I went back to my lightest POG 107 4-stripe for doubles play. My volley and FH serve return are fearful to the opponents :)
My serves have tons of pace and various spins for about 1, 1.5 sets. However, it seems that it tires me out after it...
 

shamaho

Semi-Pro
Just re-checking in to report that I went back to my lightest POG 107 4-stripe for doubles play. My volley and FH serve return are fearful to the opponents :)
My serves have tons of pace and various spins for about 1, 1.5 sets. However, it seems that it tires me out after it...
Easily solvable on your part ;) either you get tired because too much tension in your arm or not enough strength, either way, easy solves :)
To keep your fearful shots.

Taking the way to choose other sticks is more expensive and most probably an endless road circling back to the venerable one... :)

Excuse my brevity, sent from mobile on puny keyboard and rocking public transport
 

un6a

Semi-Pro
Enjoying my PCG 100 lately. If i could change one thing about it, i would change string pattern to 16x19 with densier spacing in center or maybe even to 18x20.
 

dcheung

Rookie
Whats the difference between Prince Original Graphite and Prince Classic Graphite? Why is there a price difference between the two on the used racquet section with both Grade B?
 

BlueB

Legend
Whats the difference between Prince Original Graphite and Prince Classic Graphite? Why is there a price difference between the two on the used racquet section with both Grade B?
I think from 4-stripe version of POG there wouldn't be too much difference to the later ones, including PCG. The POGs older then 4-stripe were heavier and had more SW.
 

BlueB

Legend
Easily solvable on your part ;) either you get tired because too much tension in your arm or not enough strength, either way, easy solves :)
To keep your fearful shots.
Taking the way to choose other sticks is more expensive and most probably an endless road circling back to the venerable one... :)
I've got many racquets, mostly Prince. However, over the years, I mostly flip-flopped between O3 White and POG OS. With the White I do not tire on serves and it's slightly better on my arm, so I played that the most. However, I volley better with POG and hit long less often (lower trajectory).
At 47, it is not likely that I'd get any stronger, or that my joints would get any better. Gym, no thanks - it's waste of time I could spend playing one of the sports I love.
 

bmcmichl

New User
Hey guys!

I have bought 2 POGs on the bay some years ago.
Please help me to identify the version! Seems to be the 4 stripe version. But I am curious about the code inside the throat! Is that common or do I have gem inside my bag?




 

rlau

Hall of Fame
Hi Michael, I also have a four-stripe POG OS, but mine does not have such code. Could yours be a pro stock version?

Hey guys!

I have bought 2 POGs on the bay some years ago.
Please help me to identify the version! Seems to be the 4 stripe version. But I am curious about the code inside the throat! Is that common or do I have gem inside my bag?


 
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Seth

Hall of Fame
Hey guys!

I have bought 2 POGs on the bay some years ago.
Please help me to identify the version! Seems to be the 4 stripe version. But I am curious about the code inside the throat! Is that common or do I have gem inside my bag?




The Prince pro stock code for every POG OS is TC0A-107.

No matter which generation, the code begins TC0A. I have a four-stripe POG but it doesn't have a code. Basically, this is a "pro stock" POG, but may not be (and probably isn't) any different than any four-stripe you could pick up off the rack back in the day.

Very nice find, regardless.
 

bmcmichl

New User
The Prince pro stock code for every POG OS is TC0A-107.

No matter which generation, the code begins TC0A. I have a four-stripe POG but it doesn't have a code. Basically, this is a "pro stock" POG, but may not be (and probably isn't) any different than any four-stripe you could pick up off the rack back in the day.

Very nice find, regardless.

Nice! :)

Didn´t know I own a pro stock racket. Both exactly weigh 330grams. Haven´t measured the balance yet. But the racket cut´s through the air very quickly, despite its weight and size

Also played with the PCG100 but I didnt like it as much as the POG OS. My OS felt crisper with better ball feel. PCG100 feels a bit cheap copared to my POG.
 

Lucas2015

Professional
I read many threads about pogs differences . Conclusions:

-A few say they feel all the same.
-A few say the stiffness has increased over time.
-Many say the weight/sw has decreased over time (I think this could be the reason of the different stiffness sensation, a heavy racquet tends to feel flexier)
 

JayP

New User
Anyone add lead tape. I feel that without lead its a completly different racket and with leads turns into a weapon more spin, power and bigger sweetspot. I added 8grams at 3 and 9 and 2 grams to 12,also added 5grams to the handle. Total swingweight of 363, and weighs 360 grams.
 

shamaho

Semi-Pro
Anyone add lead tape. I feel that without lead its a completly different racket and with leads turns into a weapon more spin, power and bigger sweetspot. I added 8grams at 3 and 9 and 2 grams to 12,also added 5grams to the handle. Total swingweight of 363, and weighs 360 grams.
I feel it's a never a case of more more more in exchange of nothing, one must loose something somewhere, in my case it's swing speed (or racket head acceleration to the ball), or maneuverability... or quick reaction ability at net...

always something must be compromised in exchange of more this or more that...

So, my priority is acceleration and quick flick ability in reaction shots, so no lead for me...

and BTW if want more heft in the hoop, I can easily turn to my EXO3 graphite... but yuck I much prefer the HL balance of the PCG
 

gooberwho

Rookie
I returned to the 107 after a mostly unsuccessful stint with the IG Prestige Pro 2015-2016. It swung easier, had good control, and was stable, but my teammates all noticed a lack of power with the stick.
 

graycrait

Hall of Fame
I call the POG 107 my therapy sticks. When I hurt my wrist, shoulder or elbow trying to emulate Sock etc., I just get the POG 107s out and play through it for a few weeks before venturing off on another harebrained racket notion. On the other hand I picked up a minty Spectrum Comp 90 and am liking that a bit better than my 8 POG 90s. The nuttiness never ends...
 

grhcan99

Semi-Pro
I've got 4 (2 old and 2 new). I've just switched full time to this. Coming from the C10 Pro this racquet is just so much easier to play with. I am currently loving my set up right now. Wilson Shock Shield grip + an overgrip, Wilson Revolve 16g strung at 43, 12.6oz, 350+ SW.
 
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B Cubed

Semi-Pro
I should probably already be in this club. I was a user of the versions out in the early 2000's, and was using the PCG 100 exclusively for a while. I'm not sure if this is sacrilege, but I've been a big fan of the PCG 107 (2014) version lately. I've got it weighted to my specs, and really enjoy the slight extra pop.
 

shamaho

Semi-Pro
Good evening all. Add me to the POG club. I now own 5 of the new version!!! Tried all the modern sticks not for me!!! Thanks again
eheh 5 just like me! in my case all bought second hand. but I have one that is very different from the rest... it seems very or... extremely polarized and a much heavier hoop than the others... no idea why.
Also disrupting my smooth transition between them is all sorts of grip sizes and material:
- 3 having L3
- 2 having L4

Out of the 3 L3: two were enlarged with Balsa wood under the Wilson sublime grip - of these, one of them is strangely much slippery than the other (bought and installed on the same day)
Then 2 L4 with Wilson Sublime.

Everything was more or less in balance: grip size and material.

Then the latest addition messed up everything.... has it had L3 with leather grip - and I liked it.

So, changed the L4 to leather grip.... but they require an overgrip... which makes them much larger than plain L3 or enlarged L3...


what a mess....
Any ideas to sort this out... ?
 

BlueB

Legend
eheh 5 just like me! in my case all bought second hand. but I have one that is very different from the rest... it seems very or... extremely polarized and a much heavier hoop than the others... no idea why.
Also disrupting my smooth transition between them is all sorts of grip sizes and material:
- 3 having L3
- 2 having L4

Out of the 3 L3: two were enlarged with Balsa wood under the Wilson sublime grip - of these, one of them is strangely much slippery than the other (bought and installed on the same day)
Then 2 L4 with Wilson Sublime.

Everything was more or less in balance: grip size and material.

Then the latest addition messed up everything.... has it had L3 with leather grip - and I liked it.

So, changed the L4 to leather grip.... but they require an overgrip... which makes them much larger than plain L3 or enlarged L3...


what a mess....
Any ideas to sort this out... ?
L4 with a leather grip is typically smaller than with a normal thickness synthetic. Adding an overgip should bring it back to the ballpark, actually.
Speaking of which, overgrip should be used with any type of grip...

As far as the feel/play goes, matching the SW and balance within few points is more important, then static weight. Even 5g out won't be noticed much if the first 2 parameters are close to the desired spec. Fir me st least...

Not to forget the strings. The differences there would be more noticeable and might be misinterpreted as difference in the frame itself.

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ushynoti

Rookie
I still use the 100s and 107s regularly as my main sticks. I can use either one, depends on how much spin the opponent is hitting. The 107s are good for players who really torque the ball because it gives a bigger hitting surface and sweetspot to absorb that stuff!
 

erosblue

New User
Today I played with a POG one strip with individual grommets,no bumper,strung with an hexagonal black Kirschbaum(Can't remenber the name)at 57 lbs.It felt really good but is a heavy beast.Greetings!!!!
 

gooberwho

Rookie
Alas, I've switched to a leaded-up RF97 (5g of lead under the bumper at 12 o'clock). More powerful and more stable than the POG (albeit missing the extra 10 sq in..)
 
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BkK_b0y14

Semi-Pro
Alas, I've switched to a leaded-up RF97 (5g of lead under the bumper at 12 o'clock). More and more stable than the POG (albeit missing the extra 10 sq in..)
DId you move to the regular RF97 or the RF97 autograph? Curious because I'm looking for a new frame too...finding grommet replacements is getting extremely hard...:(
 

shamaho

Semi-Pro
PCG 100 was a terrific racquet!

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Correction... IS a great racket, just because it's not manufactured doesn't stop it from still being great ;-) if one wields it on-court! ;-)
I started with them about 3 years years ago... I plan on returning to them (I have 5) when... body condition says I can't wield the POG Mid effectively anymore....
 
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