Poll about Nadal & Djokovic rivalry

What would you rather?


  • Total voters
    84

zagor

Bionic Poster
Yes because us and france have the same threat level? Jesus christ! And stop selectively quoting and replying.
Pretty much the same threat level to top players all things considered.

Also, I'll quote and reply however I want.

Nadal could drive to Paris. NY on another continent. He would have won USO but was not vulturing during a pandemic.
He would have won USO but for the simple fact that he ran away so he doesn't get spanked by Novak on HC yet again, got it.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Novak lost to Busta...let's not even go there. He was defending champion ffs, no reason to run away.
DQ was a freak accident and Novak was healthy this year.

Remind me, when was the last time Nadal took a set off Novak on HC?
 
Pretty much the same threat level to top players all things considered.

Also, I'll quote and reply however I want.



He would have won USO but for the simple fact that he ran away so he doesn't get spanked by Novak on HC yet again, got it.
You can quote and reply however you want, but in doing so, like your idol Novak, you're proving to be devious and disingenuous.

Lol @ claiming someone travelling from Spain to us has the same threat level travelling from Spain to France.
 
DQ was a freak accident and Novak was healthy this year.

Remind me, when was the last time Nadal took a set off Novak on HC?
When was the last time Novak reached him at uso? Where was he in 2017 and 2019 uso? Where was novak in ao 2014, 2017, 2018 when rafa would have most like beaten him to a pulp?
 

swizzy

Hall of Fame
Who cares about H2H historically? It wasn't even mentioned prior to about 15 years ago. It's all about winning slams, period. Nobody knows or cares about the H2H in other previous great rivalries and no one will care about current H2H's in 10, 20 or 30 years.
tons of people care. it is pretty telling... the slams are clearly and very obvious in that they end up with a tangible piece of hardware. the head to head is the undeniable results of each player pitting their talents against the other. we have never been in a heated battle on this scale before.. and that started about 15 years ago. so much has been made of this topic that it has changed the conversation and that will not be forgotten in 100 years.. we are into something that is very different from the past and will likely never be seen again.
 

D.Nalby12

Legend
I think Nadal fans need to put h2h argument to back burner. He no longer has huge lead against Federer. Also he now has same number of Slams - so h2h argument is not needed to claim Nadal' superiority.
 

Thriller

Professional
The main problem with Emerson's slams is that they were all on the amateur tour when the top players were on the pro tour, therefore, Roy could never be in a GOAT conversation.
If Emerson's H2H with Laver was 50:50 or 70:50, he would definitely be in the GOAT conversation, even with 12 amateur slams.
 

aldeayeah

Legend
Hitman is better than 99% of the regular posters here. He just doesn't want to deal with the inevitable flood of hostile t*rd bullsh*t that fills the forum in these occasions.

Hell, I'm a big Nadal fan and still I am disgusted with a lot of the crap that's been posted in the last week.
 

Eren

Professional
Hitman is better than 99% of the regular posters here. He just doesn't want to deal with the inevitable flood of hostile t*rd bullsh*t that fills the forum in these occasions.

Hell, I'm a big Nadal fan and still I am disgusted with a lot of the crap that's been posted in the last week.
After 40-15, and Fed being called a weak era chump by lots of Nole fans for years and several other laughable quotes before the RG 2020 final like quote Lew II: "I am sure people will think of Fed as the GOAT after seeing the FO 2008 massacre"

You have to allow for others to laugh at this now.

Federer 2008 was playing in the sun, with a high bouncing surface. Djokovic had a roof, no sun, lower bouncing court and ... got massacred as well.
 

NADALalot

Hall of Fame
The 10-6 is especially damaging because Nadal leads their US Open H2H.
And in turn, the fact Nadal leads the US Open H2H is very significant when paired with the fact that Nadal has won more US Opens than Djokovic.
 
The 10-6 is especially damaging because Nadal leads their US Open H2H.
And in turn, the fact Nadal leads the US Open H2H is very significant when paired with the fact that Nadal has won more US Opens than Djokovic.
It will be very damaging for Djokovic if Federer somehow wins another ao as according to novakfam logic, that would make Fed better than Djokovic at all 4 slams.
 

DSH

G.O.A.T.
I think Nadal fans need to put h2h argument to back burner. He no longer has huge lead against Federer. Also he now has same number of Slams - so h2h argument is not needed to claim Nadal' superiority.
What does Nadal have to do, in your perspective, to surpass your idol on the GOAT list?
:unsure:
 

Beckerserve

Legend
For example, there is apparently a person who can't digest slam victories of nadal and roger, especially the former. When nadal wins a slam, a specific person disappears from the forum.
He is the worse example of a fake tennis fan. Always is defeated by factual statements then does not respond but makes thread after thread saying how Djokovic will be GOAT. One day before USO he literally filled the first page here with threads. I agree with every word you have said
 

Tony48

Legend
Lol weeks at number 1 are a tie breaker if slams are equal, not even Djokovic is Murray's whole career behind the big 2.
Weeks at No. 1 is too massive of an achievement to be considered a mere “tiebreaker.” It’s an achievement that spans an entire career and something that not everyone can even achieve. There are even slam champions that have yet to ascend to No. 1.
 

Tostao80

Rookie
Why have you left out uso?

Their last Wimbledon match was a 5 setter played indoors on a sunny day simply because novak feared Rafa on outdoor grass (and then pathetically denied it at the press conference...)

Nadal would have been favoured at ao if djokovic had made it to him in 2009, 2014, 2017, 2018....its not rafas fault he can't guard his throne like rafa can his.

Rafa may very well win vs Djokovic at ao if they meet but even if he doesn't, he is the prohibitive favourite at rg and uso and it is 50-50 at Wimbledon (Nadal breadsticked Federer last year there and Djokovic got breadsticked by him btw and had to rely on the mother of all chokes to win)
I love Rafa but there is no way he is 50'50 with Novak at Wimbledon. How have they both performed there the last couple of years? Novak is easily the favourite.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
I love Rafa but there is no way he is 50'50 with Novak at Wimbledon. How have they both performed there the last couple of years? Novak is easily the favourite.
If you for once reject your own biases and instead adopt all of mine I'm sure you'll agree that Nadal is the better grass courter despite the last 9 years
 
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