[Poll] Who was the best athlete in the history of tennis?

Who was the best athlete in the history of tennis?

  • Nadal

    Votes: 23 33.3%

  • Djokovic

    Votes: 24 34.8%

  • Monfils

    Votes: 9 13.0%

  • Hewitt

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Alcaraz

    Votes: 2 2.9%

  • Federer

    Votes: 2 2.9%

  • Becker

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • De Minaur

    Votes: 3 4.3%

  • Lendl

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • Total voters
    69
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I think it was Nadal, a force of nature at its peak. But at the same time there are many other candidates who can compete, obviously always parameterized to their own eras given that a Borg was the precursor of the great athletes who lent themselves to tennis.
 
You excluded the best athlete of the 1990s - Sampras

Included a clown like De Minaur who is not even an athlete, because he can run? So what? Even I run a lot.

You poll has been disqualified brother.
 
Fred Perry. he was world table tennis champion and honed his athletic skills by training with Arsenal under Jimmy Hogan. Was by far the best athlete before the War. Emerson was a great athlete too, Fine sprinter in his youth. He said, that only kangeroos were faster than him, but they could not play tennis. Borg was fit as a sport shoe, beat once the French Olympic champion Guy Drut in a 600 m hurdle contest..
 
The best athlete that has played tennis is probably Monfils. The best athlete for tennis specifically is one of Nadal, Djoker, Alcaraz or Borg
 
Razer said:
You excluded the best athlete of the 1990s - Sampras

Included a clown like De Minaur who is not even an athlete, because he can run? So what? Even I run a lot.

You poll has been disqualified brother.
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Sampras was very explosive but as a court athlete I wouldn't put him among the main candidates. And in any case there is the option others. The real lack is that of Borg due to my carelessness when I listed the names of the candidates I was convinced that I had included him.

As for De Minaur, he is an exceptional athlete, dynamism at the maximum possible evolution, after all, arriving in the top 10 with such a light ball is synonymous with great athletic ability.
 
Winner Sinner said:
Sampras was very explosive but as a court athlete I wouldn't put him among the main candidates. And in any case there is the option others. The real lack is that of Borg due to my carelessness when I listed the names of the candidates I was convinced that I had included him.

As for De Minaur, he is an exceptional athlete, dynamism at the maximum possible evolution, after all, arriving in the top 10 with such a light ball is synonymous with great athletic ability.
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Saying Sampras was not a great athlete is like saying Nadal is not a great athlete.

The poll should have Sampras, Nadal, Monfils, Yannik Noah, Borg, Djokovic, Federer as its options ....only them.

Monfils > Nadal > Sampras > Others is the answer of the poll
 
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Razer said:
Saying Sampras was not a great athlete is like saying Nadal is not a great athlete.

The poll should have Sampras, Nadal, Monfils, Yannik Noah, Borg, Djokovic, Federer as its options ....only them.

Monfils > Nadal > Sampras > Others is the answer of the poll
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I absolutely disagree with the Sampras-Nadal comparison, the Spaniard was much quicker, faster and more resistant. Putting them in the same sentence from an athletic point of view is a sensational inaccuracy for me. Here we are fooled by Sampras' elevation which was notable, but as a 360 degree athlete he was not worth Nadal and other names I have listed.

They are subjective opinions, I always want to specify that they are my opinions, no one has the truth in their pocket even if some think they do.
 
Winner Sinner said:
I absolutely disagree with the Sampras-Nadal comparison, the Spaniard was much quicker, faster and more resistant. Putting them in the same sentence from an athletic point of view is a sensational inaccuracy for me. Here we are fooled by Sampras' elevation which was notable, but as a 360 degree athlete he was not worth Nadal and other names I have listed.

They are subjective opinions, I always want to specify that they are my opinions, no one has the truth in their pocket even if some think they do.
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I have a different opinion than you on Sampras, but I'm curious about your take on Noah. He had the leaping ability of Sampras combined with the speed of someone like Nadal and the ability to change directions of someone like Chang. Seems to tick all the boxes, maybe unlike anyone else.

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buscemi said:
I have a different opinion than you on Sampras, but I'm curious about your take on Noah. He had the leaping ability of Sampras combined with the speed of someone like Nadal and the ability to change directions of someone like Chang. Seems to tick all the boxes, maybe unlike anyone else.

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Noah is in, but in short, everyone is a great athlete, some had to be left out as there were only 9 options in the survey + 1 that I reserved for others. Since you mentioned Chang he was a great athlete too, same thing Muster.
 
Winner Sinner said:
I absolutely disagree with the Sampras-Nadal comparison, the Spaniard was much quicker, faster and more resistant. Putting them in the same sentence from an athletic point of view is a sensational inaccuracy for me. Here we are fooled by Sampras' elevation which was notable, but as a 360 degree athlete he was not worth Nadal and other names I have listed.

They are subjective opinions, I always want to specify that they are my opinions, no one has the truth in their pocket even if some think they do.
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Your poll is a total joke. Your opinion is not one which is shared by majority, Sampras used to overpower Agassi and Becker by his athleticism, Becker himself accepted that at his peak Sampras is a better athlete him hands down, that was Sampras's impact on his peers, Agassi as we all know was inferior as a pure athlete. Look at anyone from that era and see the speed with which Sampras moved to the net, how he leaped in air, how he imposed his power on others, his running forehands very nadalesque...he used to impose himself on others and he weakened in 30s because apart from fitness hsi thalassemia brought down his athleticism, started to take a toll on him. At his peak he was everybit a freak as Nadal was.

De Manure in the poll is another laughing matter, see the opinion of other posters in the thread, your view is not shared by anyone.
 
Razer said:
Your poll is a total joke. Your opinion is not one which is shared by majority, Sampras used to overpower Agassi and Becker by his athleticism, Becker himself accepted that at his peak Sampras is a better athlete him hands down, that was Sampras's impact on his peers, Agassi as we all know was inferior as a pure athlete. Look at anyone from that era and see the speed with which Sampras moved to the net, how he leaped in air, how he imposed his power on others, his running forehands very nadalesque...he used to impose himself on others and he weakened in 30s because apart from fitness hsi thalassemia brought down his athleticism, started to take a toll on him. At his peak he was everybit a freak as Nadal was.

De Manure in the poll is another laughing matter, see the opinion of other posters in the thread, your view is not shared by anyone.
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De Minaur is a joke to people like you who understand nothing about athletic ability. Try doing a survey among current players on who is the best athlete among active tennis players and see if the Australian isn't mentioned several times. He has frightening mobility, speed and endurance, literally a human dynamo. But obviously I'm not here to convince those who are dazzled only by leaps. Understand first what it means to be a great athlete and all the various nuances within the definition and then maybe you can put it on irony. De Minaur great athlete is a joke, my fault for wasting time arguing with people who are still at ABC.
 
Winner Sinner said:
De Minaur is a joke to people like you who understand nothing about athletic ability. Try doing a survey among current players on who is the best athlete among active tennis players and see if the Australian isn't mentioned several times. He has frightening mobility, speed and endurance, literally a human dynamo. But obviously I'm not here to convince those who are dazzled only by leaps. Understand first what it means to be a great athlete and all the various nuances within the definition and then maybe you can put it on irony. De Minaur great athlete is a joke, my fault for wasting time arguing with people who are still at ABC.
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He's 3-6 in five set matches, having lost his last three, including getting bageled by Rublev in the fifth set of his home Slam earlier this year. He hasn't won a five setter in over four years, and 2 of his 3 five set wins were over players ranked #87 and #166 in the world. I would not say that endurance is his strong suit.
 
Winner Sinner said:
De Minaur is a joke to people like you who understand nothing about athletic ability. Try doing a survey among current players on who is the best athlete among active tennis players and see if the Australian isn't mentioned several times. He has frightening mobility, speed and endurance, literally a human dynamo. But obviously I'm not here to convince those who are dazzled only by leaps. Understand first what it means to be a great athlete and all the various nuances within the definition and then maybe you can put it on irony. De Minaur great athlete is a joke, my fault for wasting time arguing with people who are still at ABC.
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The real time waste is for us, we are responding on your poll, not the other way round.

It is you who understand nothing about athleticism, otherwise you would not be boasting of De Minaur's non existent endurance.
 
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Razer said:
The real time waste is for us, we are responding on your poll, not the other way round.

It is you who understand nothing about athleticism, otherwise you would not be boasting of De Minaur's non existent endurance.
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You realize;

1) Always use the plural, the classic attitude of those who show insecurity and must rely on the phantom consent of others to validate a concept.
2) The poll seems to me to have received some votes. It's just your illusion to think that if Sampras had been there the outcome of the poll would have gone differently. Those with a certain knowledge of the facts know that Nadal>>>Sampras from an athletic point of view.

The real lack is Borg. And De Minaur, I repeat, only someone who evidently judges the aspects of the players based on their status can say that the Australian is not a great athlete when it is quite widespread opinion that among the players currently active De Minaur is one of the best athletes, certainly the one more gifted in the ease of running. But then again I repeat that to enter the top 10 with such a light ball and a monotonous game it is clear that the Australian possesses athletic qualities well above those of the average tennis player at the highest levels. Quickness, easy and light running, resistance, only a blind person could not see all these qualities that abound in him.
 
Tennis-suited athleticism: Nadal, Borg, Djokovic, Sampras (yes he was more serve-reliant, but that serve was an athletic marvel).
 
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De Minaur is a joke to people like you who understand nothing about athletic ability. Try doing a survey among current players on who is the best athlete among active tennis players and see if the Australian isn't mentioned several times. He has frightening mobility, speed and endurance, literally a human dynamo. But obviously I'm not here to convince those who are dazzled only by leaps. Understand first what it means to be a great athlete and all the various nuances within the definition and then maybe you can put it on irony. De Minaur great athlete is a joke, my fault for wasting time arguing with people who are still at ABC.
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What is so special about de Minaur's endurance? He's a modest 69-54 in deciding sets for his career, 3-6 in five-setters.

Sampras did have occasional endurance struggles, but that was down to his blood condition, not an athletic deficit (whether you want to count that as a tick against him is up to you). The guy had incredible straight-line and lateral speed, inhuman shoulder dexterity, great leaping ability and was phenomenal at closing down the net and changing direction.
 
Sampras, Borg, and Safin not being in this poll is a ROFLMAO

Anyways, I don't understand how tennis specific athleticism is separated from tennis playing ability. If one believes Federer is the best player, then he's also the best tennis athlete. Everything he does on the court can be attributed to a specific physical ability.
 
Winner Sinner said:
You realize;

1) Always use the plural, the classic attitude of those who show insecurity and must rely on the phantom consent of others to validate a concept.
2) The poll seems to me to have received some votes. It's just your illusion to think that if Sampras had been there the outcome of the poll would have gone differently. Those with a certain knowledge of the facts know that Nadal>>>Sampras from an athletic point of view.

The real lack is Borg. And De Minaur, I repeat, only someone who evidently judges the aspects of the players based on their status can say that the Australian is not a great athlete when it is quite widespread opinion that among the players currently active De Minaur is one of the best athletes, certainly the one more gifted in the ease of running. But then again I repeat that to enter the top 10 with such a light ball and a monotonous game it is clear that the Australian possesses athletic qualities well above those of the average tennis player at the highest levels. Quickness, easy and light running, resistance, only a blind person could not see all these qualities that abound in him.
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Insecurity for what? This is a forum where posters are random avatars, nobody even knows who the other person is. Insecure of you? Boy, you are being called out for something wrong, just accept it, if you are using big words like HISTORY OF TENNIS then research properly instead of making half baked polls.

Nadal is definitely more than Sampras but Sampras should be in the conversation ahead of De Minaur, this is what you fail to realize. Your poll became absurd when you ignored Sampras, Noah kind of of names and included De Minaur in it with an HISTORY OF TENNIS tag. You are very stubborn and arrogant too as if evident in your posting history, you are unable to accept when you are wrong. I am sure you will again reply to this comment with some essay instead of just accepting that Sampras, Noah deserve a place ahead of damn De Minaur clown in a poll that explicitly mentions HISTORY OF TENNIS.
 
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Sampras, Borg, and Safin not being in this poll is a ROFLMAO

Anyways, I don't understand how tennis specific athleticism is separated from tennis playing ability. If one believes Federer is the best player, then he's also the best tennis athlete.
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The OP is too stubborn, not surprising. He is finding it very hard to just accept that he cannot exclude Sampras and include De Minaur in a poll about HISTORY OF TENNIS.

Truly roflmao indeed.
 
Razer said:
The OP is too stubborn, not surprising. He is finding it very hard to just accept that he cannot exclude Sampras and include De Minaur in a poll about HISTORY OF TENNIS.

Truly roflmao indeed.
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It's only been like 6 months but Sinner fans are setting a bar that is hard to top.
 
Razer said:
Insecurity for what? This is a forum where posters are random avatars, nobody even knows who the other person is. Insecure of you? Boy, you are being called out for something wrong, just accept it, if you are using big words like HISTORY OF TENNIS then research properly instead of making half baked polls.

Nadal is definitely more than Sampras but Sampras should be in the conversation ahead of De Minaur, this is what you fail to realize. Your poll became absurd when you ignored Sampras, Noah kind of of names and included De Minaur in it with an HISTORY OF TENNIS tag. You are very stubborn and arrogant too as if evident in your posting history, you are unable to accept when you are wrong. I am sure you will again reply to this comment with some essay instead of just accepting that Sampras, Noah deserve a place ahead of damn De Minaur clown in a poll that explicitly mentions HISTORY OF TENNIS.
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I repeat, if you underestimate De Minaur's athletic ability just because of his status, that's your problem. Oh yes, you show insecurity since every time a discussion arises you feel obliged to invoke the consensus of others to increase your self-esteem. And don't talk to me about arrogance, just look at how you presented yourself in the first comments of this thread, so from what pulpit.
 
De Minaur is not a great athlete... you really have to have your eyes lined with ham or simply be in bad faith. We are probably talking about the fastest player ever seen in tennis, one who bases much of his qualitatively modest game on his surreal dynamism.

 
metsman said:
Anyways, I don't understand how tennis specific athleticism is separated from tennis playing ability.
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It's "tennis athleticism" (however I define it based on how I woke up) minus racquet talent/hand-eye for me. Utterly subjective and arbitrary of course, I don't claim otherwise, and there's probably some double-counting going on.
 
It's Steffi Graf.
But Stefan Edberg was more of an athlete than Becker, Hewitt or de Minaur. That Björn Borg guy was a pretty good athlete too.
 
Winner Sinner said:
I repeat, if you underestimate De Minaur's athletic ability just because of his status, that's your problem. Oh yes, you show insecurity since every time a discussion arises you feel obliged to invoke the consensus of others to increase your self-esteem. And don't talk to me about arrogance, just look at how you presented yourself in the first comments of this thread, so from what pulpit.
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At least I can invoke the consensus of others, you cannot even do that. Nobody agrees with you and we live in a society where consensus is what matters. Anything which is a weird opinion without a consensus is almost always BS unless you are galileo living the times when everybody opposed your science, clearly not the case. Your point on De Minaur has been rejected by everyone, that is good enough for me. Accept it that Sampras should be there an De Manure should not be there in an all time poll for athleticism. Your opinion is not shared by anyone, so eat humble pie on this.
 
Razer said:
At least I can invoke the consensus of others, you cannot even do that. Nobody agrees with you and we live in a society where consensus is what matters. Anything which is a weird opinion without a consensus is almost always BS unless you are galileo living the times when everybody opposed your science, clearly not the case. Your point on De Minaur has been rejected by everyone, that is good enough for me. Accept it that Sampras should be there an De Manure should not be there in an all time poll for athleticism. Your opinion is not shared by anyone, so eat humble pie on this.
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But who else?

But do you realize how delusional you are if you pretend to believe you have everyone's consent?

For some who agree with you, do you think this can support your idea?
But are you serious?

So I tell you, look at the video I posted on De Minaur, and while you're at it, also take a look at the comments. Because the thing I object to you is precisely that of thinking that in a survey including some candidates in the question of who was the best athlete in the history of tennis, inserting someone like De Minaur is a joke, it is equivalent to not understanding anything about talents. athletic. It's one thing to say there should have been Sampras in his place, it's another thing to say that putting De Minaur among the candidates is a joke. The joke is your theses.
 
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